#1
Hey guys i was wondering in your opinion what the best way is too increase sustain on an Sg/Les Paul style guitar. The guitar in particular is an Epi Sg ft upgraded pickups. I really seem to have no sustain when the string is bent so what is your recommendation. Please note its not the pickups and don't say get another guitar i love this one way to much. I was thinking of replacing the bridge. Also i just did a setup on it and was not that either. Thanks.
#2
Fernandez sustainer but it probably costs almost as much as your epi. A compressor? Thicker strings?
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I would add a compressor to your pedal board.. but checking the set up wouldn't be a bad Idea either...

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#6
I've heard of a lot of people wrapping the strings around the tail piece. That seems to increase sustain and help tuning a bit.

Also, upgrading the pickups can help. Some pickups just have more harmonic content to them. Also, lowering the pickups can help sustain.

Regardless, most of your sustain comes from the amp (volume and saturation) more than anything else.
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#7
because it happens when you bend, it sounds like you're fretting out.

make sure your action isn't super low. super low action, though certainly appropriate for shredding, isn't your friend when you're doing bends. to this end, make sure your nut is properly cut to facilitate a good set-up. most epiphones I've seen have badly cut nuts, and really benefit from a pro set-up where they properly cut the nut (better yet, replace with a graphite one). a poor set-up or inappropriate set-up will absolutely rob your guitar of tone.

compressor/sustainer pedal would help too
#8
Alright like i said pickups up arent the problem i just installed brand new ones that were designed for rock and were great for sustain lol thats one of the reasons i bought them. My setup isnt the problem i got my jackson guitar and i have my notes ring for ever it seems which also means its not my technique either i no how to play. I also tried to raise my action previously which did help a little but no where near where it could be. I've been playing on getting thicker strings so that may help and as for the compressor ill give it a try. Anyone else got any suggestion, do you think getting a new bridge would help out.
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Alright like i said pickups up arent the problem i just installed brand new ones that were designed for rock and were great for sustain lol thats one of the reasons i bought them. My setup isnt the problem i got my jackson guitar and i have my notes ring for ever it seems which also means its not my technique either i no how to play. I also tried to raise my action previously which did help a little but no where near where it could be. I've been playing on getting thicker strings so that may help and as for the compressor ill give it a try. Anyone else got any suggestion, do you think getting a new bridge would help out.



You said you've fitted new pickups? is the height of the pickup ok? Try adjusting the height of them if not, my be causing a problem.
#10
Nah thats not it i was having the problem b4 and thought it was the pickups but when i put the new ones in there wasnt no change really.
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Alright like i said pickups up arent the problem i just installed brand new ones that were designed for rock and were great for sustain lol thats one of the reasons i bought them. My setup isnt the problem i got my jackson guitar and i have my notes ring for ever it seems which also means its not my technique either i no how to play. I also tried to raise my action previously which did help a little but no where near where it could be. I've been playing on getting thicker strings so that may help and as for the compressor ill give it a try. Anyone else got any suggestion, do you think getting a new bridge would help out.


the same set-up/technique on two fairly different guitars won't guarantee the same results... check to make sure your frets aren't wearing unevenly. really uneven frets could cause some serious dead spots along the fretboard.

make sure your pickups aren't too high or too low. either could cause you to loose tonnes of sustain.

did you consider your pots when you changed pickups? the best pickups in the world will sound like ass if you use cheap pots and wire with them (think putting a massive engine in a pinto: faster yes, but not any good). cheap pots totally rob your tone of high end. probably not the cause, but a distant possibility
#12
Move the pickups further from the strings. Especially the neck pickup. Raise the bridge/action but keep the stopbar piece of the bridge as low as possible. Make sure you restrung the guitar properly so the strings are coming to the nut from the bottom of the tuner peg, so there's a good angle over the nut.

Don't use a compressor. It doesn't make notes ring out longer it just evens out the volume of your signal. It ****s with th dynamics of your playing.
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the mass of the tuners has an effect. bridge and tailpiece have an effect.

oh and what model SG?
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#16
Compressor/Sustainer pedal from Boss would probably help :-)
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#17
You could try a heavier bridge and tailpiece, The rectangular Gibson-style bridge adds a fair amount of mass. And you might look into a better nut; perhaps a brass nut.
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Seriously, people are overlooking the issue here which is the notes are dying out when he bends them... that is not an issue that will be solved with new tuners or a new bridge.

+1 million.

so far this thread is a perfect example of people needing to read the thread content and not just the title.

this is a setup question and has nothing to do with buying replacement hardware, pedals, etc.
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#20
I vote operator error not the machine.
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#21
+1 to this being a guitar setup issue

also, brass nut :P
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add a little relief to the neck.

notes choking out on a SG is not a new thing.

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