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The suit, which PETA says it will file Wednesday in U.S. District Court in San Diego, hinges on the fact that the 13th Amendment, while prohibiting slavery and involuntary servitude, does not specify that only humans can be victims.

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"By any definition, these orcas are slaves — kidnapped from their homes, kept confined, denied everything that's natural to them and forced to perform tricks for SeaWorld's profit," said Kerr. "The males have their sperm collected, the females are artificially inseminated and forced to bear young which are sometimes shipped away."


.... I don't even know what to say.

Discuss, flame PETA, or lament the orca's "plight."
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#2
PETA needs to GTFO... really. They're worse than Greenpeace. The only difference between them is that Greenpeace still thinks about the points they adress. After that they stop thinking. PETA doesn't even think at all
#4
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#6
PETA is one of the last organizations in the world that truly understands what's important. These poor animals ARE slaves, and I hope SeaWorld burns to the ground for what they've done to them. It's disgraceful and disgusting.
#7
I don't like PETA, and I think they're being a little hysterical, but they do have a point. Keeping killer whales in captivity is pretty cruel.
#8
I don't see why people have a problem with this?

Seems like a great way to move an important issue forward.
#9
Based on what they've said, any exotic pet could technically be considered a slave.

But I think it's cruel to keep these animals in captivity, especially considering the large distances they cover in the wild. Being confined to a tank probably stresses them.

And I agree with this: http://www.physorg.com/news181981904.html
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#10
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I don't see why people have a problem with this?

Seems like a great way to move an important issue forward.


Pretty much.

People love to hate.
#11
Quote by metalh3ad88
PETA is one of the last organizations in the world that truly understands what's important. These poor animals ARE slaves, and I hope SeaWorld burns to the ground for what they've done to them. It's disgraceful and disgusting.


u trollin'

I still mad

fuck you

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#12
Pfft, I shat myself.

Are the whales forced ? Yes. Do they complain ? No. Are they therefore a victim of slavery ? NO.

Problem solved, on to Sea Shepherd.
#13
Quote by spitonastranger
I don't see why people have a problem with this?

Seems like a great way to move an important issue forward.


PETA are not the type of people to be taken seriously.
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Quote by metalh3ad88
PETA is one of the last organizations in the world that truly understands what's important. These poor animals ARE slaves, and I hope SeaWorld burns to the ground for what they've done to them. It's disgraceful and disgusting.


This. Animals should only live in the wild where they're safe from predators, have constant supplies of food, and guaranteed mates. Putting them in tanks is akin to slavery. Those poor fish are doing back breaking labor 24/7 with no pay. where's THEIR minimum wage?
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#15
I agree with their point, any place that keeps animals in captivity without good reason is a place I dont like. Nature reserves where injured animals are nursed back to health or where endangered species are bred for release are alright, but as far as I know Seaworld doesn't do that. So unless someone shows me otherwise, **** SeaWorld.

However, do I think this is the right way to address the problem? Not at all, and in fact it seems as though PETA's plans never do anything but exacerbate the problem or turn it into a joke. Like their whole idea to stop overfishing by changing the name of fish to seakittens. What did that do but make people treat the problem like a joke?
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Quote by metalh3ad88
PETA is one of the last organizations in the world that truly understands what's important. These poor animals ARE slaves, and I hope SeaWorld burns to the ground for what they've done to them. It's disgraceful and disgusting.


Er, how?
#17
I fail to see the big deal and I agree with their general point, frankly.
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#19
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Pfft, I shat myself.

Are the whales forced ? Yes. Do they complain ? No. Are they therefore a victim of slavery ? NO.

Problem solved, on to Sea Shepherd.

They have a shorter life expectancy in captivity than in the wild and they've attacked their trainers before which could be because of stress. I can't talk to orcas, but I'm pretty sure they'd complain if we could understand them.

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However, do I think this is the right way to address the problem? Not at all, and in fact it seems as though PETA's plans never do anything but exacerbate the problem or turn it into a joke. Like their whole idea to stop overfishing by changing the name of fish to seakittens. What did that do but make people treat the problem like a joke?

I kinda agree with you here, but at least they're bringing attention to the issues.
And I wouldn't eat a seakitten.
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#20
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/apr/21/fbi-most-wanted-animal-rights-activist

"Animal rights and environmental extremism pose a significant domestic terror threat," the FBI said in a press statement. It said that animal-rights extremists have caused more than $110m in damages.


PETA should gtfo. Animals do not have the same mindset as human and therefore should not be treated as such. Humans can wonder 'How was the universe born?' or 'What is my purpose here?'. All animals can understand is 'Eat...... Sleep..... Mate..... Eat...... Sleep..... Mate.....'
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#21
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I care about animal rights, but only for the cute, fuzzy ones.

Fuck whales.

Hey, whales are fuzzy!

OT, as an honorary sperm whale, I'm very pleased with these efforts to liberate my captive brethren.

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Let's feed PETA to the whales.

I also approve of this.
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#22
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All animals can understand is 'Eat...... Sleep..... Mate..... Eat...... Sleep..... Mate.....'

Replace actual mating with fapping and you could say the same about the average pitmonkey.
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#23
I just found this.

this guy says that "the current relationship between humans and dolphins is, in effect, equivalent to the relationship between whites and Black slaves two centuries ago."

I don't know if I'd go this far but no one can deny that dolphins are extremely intelligent. And they've saved people from sharks, so you're a dick if you think mistreating them is okay.
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#24
This is outrageous, these orca whales need to be brought back to their natural habitat, someone needs to send them back to the moon!
#25
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Replace actual mating with fapping and you could say the same about the average pitmonkey.

Hey! I don't fap!


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#26
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I just found this.

this guy says that "the current relationship between humans and dolphins is, in effect, equivalent to the relationship between whites and Black slaves two centuries ago."

I don't know if I'd go this far but no one can deny that dolphins are extremely intelligent. And they've saved people from sharks, so you're a dick if you think mistreating them is okay.

They're also the only animal I know of (humans aside) that commit murder and rape for pleasure. I mean, I love 'em like cousins, but they can be pretty awful.
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#27
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Replace actual mating with fapping and you could say the same about the average pitmonkey.

You forgot pooping
WARUM TUT ES WEH, WENN ICH PINKLE?!
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I just found this.

this guy says that "the current relationship between humans and dolphins is, in effect, equivalent to the relationship between whites and Black slaves two centuries ago."

I don't know if I'd go this far but no one can deny that dolphins are extremely intelligent. And they've saved people from sharks, so you're a dick if you think mistreating them is okay.

What is this? Facts? Facts!?!?

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They're also the only animal I know of (humans aside) that commit murder and rape for pleasure. I mean, I love 'em like cousins, but they can be pretty awful.

Oh yeah that's true. It's like humans though, you can't say that every dolphin likes rape/murder. Unless they do...that would be scary.

also there's more!

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Some species of birds appear to combine sexual intercourse with apparent violent assault; these include ducks,[47] geese, and white-fronted bee-eaters.


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Since the early 1990’s, for example, young male elephants in Pilanesberg National Park and the Hluhluwe-Umfolozi Game Reserve in South Africa have been raping and killing rhinoceroses; this abnormal behaviour, according to a 2001 study in the journal Pachyderm, has been reported in ‘‘a number of reserves’’ in the region.


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What is this? Facts? Facts!?!?


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#31
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I agree with their point, any place that keeps animals in captivity without good reason is a place I dont like. Nature reserves where injured animals are nursed back to health or where endangered species are bred for release are alright, but as far as I know Seaworld doesn't do that. So unless someone shows me otherwise, **** SeaWorld.

There are regulations and laws in place that make sure that they support conservation of the animals and education of the public regarding things like conservation.

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Hey, whales are fuzzy!

OT, as an honorary sperm whale, I'm very pleased with these efforts to liberate my captive brethren.

Orcas aren't whales, they're dolphins.
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#32
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PETA can go f themselves. Zoos and seaworlds can also go f themselves.


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#33
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There are regulations and laws in place that make sure that they support conservation of the animals and education of the public regarding things like conservation.

Can't argue with this, they've done a lot to help with conservation. But it doesn't cancel out what's happening to the dolphins.
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#34
These whales are nothing but illegal aliens coming to our country, stealin' our jerbs. I tried to get a job at seaworld but was beaten by one of them there orcas cause the black and white bastard was more PC.
#35
I dunno. Even though I'm a huge animal rights supporter, I'm on the fence about this.

I don't like PeTA, but I haven't really studied Sea World. For all I know, maybe these animals are being unethically mistreated, and there are things going on I don't know about.

Or maybe they're being treated just fine and PeTA is just looking to start trouble and gain press attention.

Either one seems plausible to me.
#38
The suit, which PETA says it will file Wednesday in U.S. District Court in San Diego, hinges on the fact that the 13th Amendment, while prohibiting slavery and involuntary servitude, does not specify that only humans can be victims.

The Bill of Rights only applies to US Citizens. I can't believe I even have to make this point.
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#39
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Orcas aren't whales, they're dolphins.

Okay, fine, captive couseren.
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Money beats soul...every time.

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