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My friends and I were watching a soccer match on TV one afternoon. I noticed how a certain player kept screwing up and playing poorly. I then proceeded to say that he's a terrible player and he shouldn't even be on the team. My friend retaliated by telling me he's a better soccer player than I am so I had no right to say that he sucked. Of course, the player's better at soccer than I am. I told my friend that I meant the guy's a pretty bad player for someone who's on a professional team. But he still stuck with his argument.

So pit, did I have the right to say that the guy's a bad soccer player? Of course I understand that he's pretty good but on a professional standard, he's terrible.
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#2
If they get paid for doing stuff for your entertainment, then you're allowed to judge them.
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#3
Yes, just because they can do it better than you, doesn't mean that they're competent.
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#8
I hate that argument so much.


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#9
If someone is genuinely criticising someone for performing poorly at whatever they're doing, then fine. I do it on a daily basis.
If someone is just looking up people they don't like and hurrdurrthey'reshit-ing all over the place then I think your friends argument does have merit.
#11
I think it depends on your reasoning behind why he is bad soccer player. If you say he is a bad player just because you don't like him, of course it's not justified. And imo, you are allowed to make opinions even if you're not an expert or a professional.

I watch soccer since I was a kid, and usually when I make a comment about how crappy certain players are (cough... MLS players), I back it up with proof (like sloppy passes, missing easy goals, overly dominant etc)
#12
You have a right to say whatever you want. That sounds like an irritating friend.
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#13
Your friend's argument only makes sense in cases where people are commenting on things they clearly have absolutely no idea about, ala people who have no grasp of music calling "insert name here" entirely talentless.
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But really, of course you have every right to say that, if he's a professional then he should be playing at a decent standard, if he's falling below that standard then he shouldn't be on the team. Out of interest, who was it?
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#15
I don't think you're justified in saying that he 'sucks' but if you know what you're talking about and criticise certain aspects of his game then that's fair enough I suppose. With any professional sport you have to recognise how difficult it actually is though, you can't say that any of them suck.
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I think it depends on your reasoning behind why he is bad soccer player. If you say he is a bad player just because you don't like him, of course it's not justified. And imo, you are allowed to make opinions even if you're not an expert or a professional.

I watch soccer since I was a kid, and usually when I make a comment about how crappy certain players are (cough... MLS players), I back it up with proof (like sloppy passes, missing easy goals, overly dominant etc)

Yeah, I was watching MLS for the first time (always watched other leagues though) and I guess my friend was a hardcore fan of the player I was bashing.

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But really, of course you have every right to say that, if he's a professional then he should be playing at a decent standard, if he's falling below that standard then he shouldn't be on the team. Out of interest, who was it?


I'd rather not get into that. Don't wanna anger a fan of his/his team.
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#19
Facebook sucks a thousand wangs. People know it and still use it. The people who made facebook are supposed to be professionals at creating software, yet they can't make a reliable chat service.

Under free speech,

- You have the right to say a professional sucks.
- You have the right to say an entire profession sucks.

You always have a right to say these things, but if you are a CPA and you go to your Accounting job and say that Accounting sucks, you aint gonna be countin much longer...
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#20
Yea sure. If I'm watching baseball or football (American) I will always say if someone sucks. I'm not comparing them to myself. I'm comparing them to other professional players who are obviously better then them.
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#21
They tend to make more in a year than normal people do in a lifetime, so they ought to be perfect if they don't expect to get judged. Having slightly more skill than someone still doesn't make you a professional.
#23
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#24
Soccer lol
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Soccer lol
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#26
Oh wow.

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#27
^ I agree. I have negative boner at the moment.

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#28


anyway, i think you always have the right to say that anyone sucks, not just professionals. and anyone who tells you that you can't complain unless you're better or someone who plays the "i'd like to see you try it then" card is just stupid.
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#30
Of all the threads I encountered today, I was not expecting that in this one. But then again, the word "sucks" is in the tread title...
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Of all the threads I encountered today, I was not expecting that in this one. But then again, the word "sucks" is in the tread title...

Thank god I didn't title this thread 'The right to say that a professional sucks ass'
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#35
I've always been annoyed when people complain about you complaining about entertainers. They (especially those in sports) get paid massive amounts of money just to entertain us, if anything they are the prime example of those in our society who we get to say suck. Politicians being slightly higher on the list.
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#36
So in order to have free criticism over things, I basically have to be godly at everything in the world, huh?

Why should I do better when there are many people doing much better?
#37
Does that guy on the left have "Cum" tattooed on him
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#38
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#39
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EDIT: Oh fuck your cheeky edit





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