#1
Hey guys, I was reading the amp guide and it was really helpful but I'm always terrible at making choices, so I was wondering if anyone has any tips on a good amp for really nice washy shoegazy tones, using pedals if necessary (the band Wild Nothing are the guitar sound I'm thinking of), a distorted tone such as pavement or deerhunter, which can also do nice cleans. I won't be playing proper gigs or anything but I will be playing with other people so it would need to be powerful enough to cope with that. From what I saw it seems the Vox Valvetronix or something similar would be best, but if anyone has anything better please recommend! Thanks in advance!
#2
You could probably get something better than a Valvetronix for that much. They're pretty good amps, but you could find something better to use with pedals. If you don't need that much volume you could get a 5-watt tube amp (like a Vox AC4) and it would sound quite a bit better.
#3
Quote by Polar13
You could probably get something better than a Valvetronix for that much. They're pretty good amps, but you could find something better to use with pedals. If you don't need that much volume you could get a 5-watt tube amp (like a Vox AC4) and it would sound quite a bit better.


Thank you very much! Would a 5-watt amp be powerful enough to be clearly audible in a band setting? This is where I show how clueless I am :c
#4
Maybe look into a Vox AC15? They are pretty loud and you can mike up the amp if you need it to be squeaky clean with a band. They'll get a bit of hair on the cleans when turned up pretty loud, but they sound good for the reverb/delay washy sound. Maybe also look into

Laney VC30
Fender Hot Rod Deluxe/Deville
Peavey Classic 30
Fender Blues Junior (mike it up)

You'd need to get your own effects (overdrive, fuzz, delay, reverb, modulation
, etc.), but it would sound good and be best for playing with a band if you looked for a decent tube amp and pedals.
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Last edited by sg4ever at Nov 3, 2011,
#5
Quote by sg4ever
Maybe look into a Vox AC15? They are pretty loud and you can mike up the amp if you need it to be squeaky clean with a band. They'll get a bit of hair on the cleans when turned up pretty loud, but they sound good for the reverb/delay washy sound. Maybe also look into

Laney VC30
Fender Hot Rod Deluxe/Deville
Peavey Classic 30
Fender Blues Junior (mike it up)

You'd need to get your own effects (overdrive, fuzz, delay, reverb, modulation
, etc.), but it would sound good and be best for playing with a band if you looked for a decent tube amp and pedals.


Thanks very much for all your help, I was looking at ebay and i saw

a Laney 100Watt head and cabinet which could be alright

or

and the Marshall JCM 600

I'm just wondering if either of those is a particularly good bargain? I like the look of the JCM600 quite a lot (it seems quite good at cleans and is also cheaper) but any advice would be great, thanks again!
Last edited by 12dogs at Nov 3, 2011,
#6
Quote by 12dogs
Thanks very much for all your help, I was looking at ebay and i saw

this which looks massive but it might not be that great

and this

I'm just wondering if either of those is a particularly good bargain? Or should I just go with your recommendations? Thanks again!

The Laney you posted is a great amp, would do the job for shoegaze but perhaps not so much for clean indie (although if I had £300 I would buy that instantly, such a good deal). Not sure about the JCM600, but I've heard they're pretty unreliable. If I were you I'd look into a used Laney VC30 or LC30, that will nail the indie clean sound, then get some sort of fuzz pedal for the shoegaze stuff.
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#7
Quote by korinaflyingv
The Laney you posted is a great amp, would do the job for shoegaze but perhaps not so much for clean indie. Not sure about the JCM600, but I've heard they're pretty unreliable. If I were you I'd look into a used Laney VC30 or LC30, that will nail the indie clean sound, then get some sort of fuzz pedal for the shoegaze stuff.


wasn't sure how reliable Laney were as a brand but the VC30 seems pretty popular, will look into them some more, I might make an offer on this Laney VC30 and see what I can get it for, this LC30 would be good though because it's a hell of a lot cheaper, unless the VC30 really is that much better that I should spend the extra? Should I just stretch a little extra and get the Laney + cabinet?
Last edited by 12dogs at Nov 3, 2011,
#8
Quote by 12dogs
wasn't sure how reliable Laney were as a brand but the VC30 seems pretty popular, will look into them some more, I might make an offer on this Laney VC30 and see what I can get it for, this LC30 would be good though because it's a hell of a lot cheaper, unless the VC30 really is that much better that I should spend the extra? Should I just stretch a little extra and get the Laney + cabinet?

IMO Laney is the best value for money in the UK, especially given the ridiculously low prices you can find on ebay and gumtree. I haven't played either amp in ~4 years so my memory is fuzzier than Loveless, but as I remember it, the VC30 has REALLY nice cleans but a weak overdrive. The LC30 has warmer, still very nice but not orgasmic cleans, and a thicker, more versatile (but still not amazing) overdrive. Out of those 2 I'd go for the LC30, because of the price difference. The GH100L (the head + cab you're looking at) has outstanding overdrive, packs a hell of a punch, but doesn't have much in the way of cleans. It really depends what's more important to you, cleans or overdrive. If I was playing in a pure shoegaze band, I'd get the GH100L, because it will drown your audience in a sea of distortion. If you need switchable cleans and distortion, I'd say LC30 + fuzz pedal.
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Quote by korinaflyingv
IMO Laney is the best value for money in the UK, especially given the ridiculously low prices you can find on ebay and gumtree. I haven't played either amp in ~4 years so my memory is fuzzier than Loveless, but as I remember it, the VC30 has REALLY nice cleans but a weak overdrive. The LC30 has warmer, still very nice but not orgasmic cleans, and a thicker, more versatile (but still not amazing) overdrive. Out of those 2 I'd go for the LC30, because of the price difference. The GH100L (the head + cab you're looking at) has outstanding overdrive, packs a hell of a punch, but doesn't have much in the way of cleans. It really depends what's more important to you, cleans or overdrive. If I was playing in a pure shoegaze band, I'd get the GH100L, because it will drown your audience in a sea of distortion. If you need switchable cleans and distortion, I'd say LC30 + fuzz pedal.


This is really useful, I think I'll make a bid on the LC30, thank you!
#10
Buy an old Peavey from the 80s. They go for pennies. Are tube powered and take pedals like a champ.

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#11
Quote by Tom 1.0
Buy an old Peavey from the 80s. They go for pennies. Are tube powered and take pedals like a champ.


any particular model? There's a refurbished classic 30 going for £300 on ebay, but apparently that's from ~1995

Edit:there's also one just called a "Peavey classic" currently at £100 and a Peavey classic 20 currently at £120
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#14
Actually I think I might make an offer on the Peavey Classic because it's only £100 and I would like to save quite a lot to spend on pedals, it doesn't have to be the best in the world, any advice?