Poll: Home-schooling?
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View poll results: Home-schooling?
It's a good thing. Public schools suck
68 18%
It's a bad thing. Parents can screw up their kid's education
233 62%
I'm not sure how I feel about it.
73 20%
Voters: 374.
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#1
Personally, I'm pretty against it. Every home-schooled kid I've ever known has been either an uneducated and screwed up person, completely socially inept and unable to succeed at anything other than academics, which I think is equally damning, or they're completely brainwashed by hardcore their religious parents. I don't know where I stand on the idea of banning it, but I think we need to do something about it (at least here in the USA). The victims of bad home-schooling are the kids, who have no choice in the matter.

What are your thoughts?
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#4
If by having something be done about it, you mean tighten up on the standards of those who able to teach their kids and actually make sure the kids are learning, then yeah go for it. But, home schooling should still definately be allowed if the family wants to.
#5
There is no excuse for bad parenting. Period. If you can't teach em right yourself, send em to public school so that they can learn socially and at least with some standardization, however fucked it is.
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#6
My brother goes to a semi-homeschool program called Options for Youth. He goes to school 2 days a week and not for very long. From what I've heard it does jack shit for people who want to go to college or join the military.
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There's positive and negative aspects to it. It depends on the parents and the kid.

Yup, each case is different. Can be ok, can go straight to hell.
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#8
I think there should be some kind of mandatory program to socialize all the home-school kids. Almost all of them, in my experience, are completely socially inept.

In my middle school there was a girl who was homeschooled and she would come to school like once a week, and it was mostly so she could talk to people her age and learn social skills. It worked pretty well.
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#10
Only in special cases. This is where regular schooling is not working - but depends on parental commitment to a set program of work.
#11
i know a guy who is home schooled and he is a creepy ****.
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#12
If the parent or home teacher is intelligent enough in all fields and the kid gets lots of interaction with other kids, who the hell am I to judge?
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#13
Terrible idea.
There's far more to academic institutions than just what the teacher's tell you and make you read.
You learn far more than just numbers and spellings which are drilled into your brain.
#14
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If the parent or home teacher is intelligent enough in all fields and the kid gets lots of interaction with other kids, who the hell am I to judge?



That's the thing though. People are always complaining about 'bad teachers' and shit, but I can't think of a worse teacher than a mom who hasn't been in school in 15 years.
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#15
Depends 100% on the parents, children, and school in question. There is no blanket answer for this.
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Depends 100% on the parents, children, and school in question. There is no blanket answer for this.



Well you have to make some sort of legal decisions. You can't just make the law say 'well it depends...'
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#17
We had a family in our neighborhood about 4 or 5 years ago that homeschooled their kids. They plainly didn't know how to act around other people, and were pretty badly behaved when they were at our house. All this despite the fact that their parents were EXTREMELY strict and ridiculously religious. They could have learned how to socialize much better if they had gone to a public school.
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#18
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Well you have to make some sort of legal decisions. You can't just make the law say 'well it depends...'

Legal decisions ruled in courts are done so on a case by case basis, which also depends 100% on the circumstances, people involved, and reasons for doing so.
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#19
Works fine for a lot of people too. More and more kids in my area are leaving public school to do school at home and they're not socially inept at all.
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#20
I'm homeschooled, and I'm a pretty cool guy. I had to convince my parents to let me, but it freed me up to work when i would otherwise be in school. I passed all my classes with Good grades, and I even finished early. My Mom and Dad never helped me, either. It's about the drive of the kid as much as who's teaching.
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#21
I was homeschooled up until 5th grade, and it completely fucked me over socially. I was creepy as anything, had a hard time talking to people. was a hardcore christian, and didn't have a lot of friends.

I was, however, some type of genious according to the public school system. Starting 5th grade I was doing everything at least on a 7th grade level, and they were considering jumping me up a grade. (I was 9 at the time too...)

Then in middle school I started skating and playing guitar, made some friends that helped me get in trouble and loosen up a bit, became a bit less creepy, and started to be social.

So, yeah, I honestly think homeschooling is horrible because it cripples you socially, even if it has the possibility of making you a genious. And if you can't interact with people at all, then life sucks.

Edit: It obviously depends on the parents though. My parents are f*cking crazy. My dad's a jahova's witness, I think that speaks for itself. >_>
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#22
I'm friends with about 3 people that were homeschooled, and they're all more normal and well adjusted than my mates.
#23
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We had a family in our neighborhood about 4 or 5 years ago that homeschooled their kids. They plainly didn't know how to act around other people, and were pretty badly behaved when they were at our house. All this despite the fact that their parents were EXTREMELY strict and ridiculously religious. They could have learned how to socialize much better if they had gone to a public school.

Or they could've been those weird kids that no one liked, and would've ended up worse off. MAybe shoot the school up.
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#24
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That's the thing though. People are always complaining about 'bad teachers' and shit, but I can't think of a worse teacher than a mom who hasn't been in school in 15 years.

What if that mom happens to be well studied in various fields? And who says it has to be the Mom that teaches? Or that there is only one teacher? Or that it isn't a professional that is hired by the parents to teach at home?
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#25
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Or they could've been those weird kids that no one liked, and would've ended up worse off. MAybe shoot the school up.


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#26
I hate to see people become socially inept. "Book smarts" are only half the battle in contemporary society.
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#27
Yeah, it seems most homeschooled kids end up pretty messed up, almost to the point where it's scary. Just seems like a harsh thing to do to your kid. It's as if they are trying to shelter them from the real world, then when they get out there, they don't know what to do.
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#28
I am homeschooled. On the flip side of all of this, I would typically isolate myself every chance I got while in public school and it was a big waste of time, I would zone out every class and do tons better than everyone else gradewise. I am now homeschooled and take college classes on the weekends (I am in my junior year of highschool). I do tons of socialization during the week. Public school sucks and is a flawed system.
#29
I was homeschooled. Graduated early, the only negative thing I got out of it would be my social anxiety, but I don't even have that too bad.
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#31
I was home-schooled from fifth grade through high school graduation. I loved it.

Played basketball, baseball, flag football.
Was in a band.
Got great grades on standardized tests.
And have a 4.0 GPA in college. I also got to take classes at he community college early since I was pretty ahead of the game.

My mom was a teacher for a while though so I'm sure that helped.

The only time I see it as bad is if the parent is way to overprotective and doesn't let the id do anything. Then they just get ****ed up.


Wow, the amount of hate in this thread is weird, since most of you probably no next to nothing about what you are talking about.


Edit: V Not all home-schoolers are religious zealots.
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#32
Watch the homeschooling segment in Jesus Camp. That alone is a compelling argument to ban homeschooling altogether, with few exceptions for extraordinary cases (severe illness and the like).

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#33
I'd have loved it. I was always terribly bored in school, and the only other option for me was to go to giftie school. All I wanted was to smash through everything at my own pace so I didn't have to sit around doing nothing for half the day. Public school works at the pace of the slowest in the class. That's fine and dandy, but their stupidity makes the brightest unjustly suffer as a direct result. When you are forced to go to a public school and spend at least half the day twiddling your thumbs with nothing to do, you'd understand.
#34
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Watch the homeschooling segment in Jesus Camp. That alone is a compelling argument to ban homeschooling altogether, with few exceptions for extraordinary cases (severe illness and the like).

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#35
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What if that mom happens to be well studied in various fields? And who says it has to be the Mom that teaches? Or that there is only one teacher? Or that it isn't a professional that is hired by the parents to teach at home?

Fucking this.

After a certain point, some kids don't need teachers anyways. Some kids don't need an unnecessarily strict system which punishes them for being vastly more efficient and brighter than most of the other people in said system. Until you provide an alternative system that feeds the same material but allows kids to work at their own pace (should be the norm anyways if you ask me), give me homeschooling at the very least. I suffered from grade 1 to grade 12 because of this. I'd have killed for homeschooling. When I got suspended for 10 days in grade 8 my marks went from 60's to 100's across the board. Then when I came back they dropped back to 60's. The primary concern should be with proving a means for the brightest to succeed rather than making them suffer for the sake of the dullest.
#36
I wasn't home-schooled yet, I'm pretty strange (not in an entirely bad way, I'm very friendly, I'm just naive sometimes).

I knew someone from my college who was home-schooled. He was very smart (although I sometimes knew more stuff than him ) but, he was quite an intense person at times. This is in England aswell so, home-schooling shouldn't necessarily be an option.

I guess it depends on the parents. Maybe the parents take the kid out to see other people alot, to compensate for the lack of social interaction from home-schooling.

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#37
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I was homeschooled. Graduated early, the only negative thing I got out of it would be my social anxiety, but I don't even have that too bad.

It always annoys me that people act like only home-schooled kids could have social anxiety. Could they? Of course. Anyone can.

Personally, I have met some pretty ****ed up public school students, just like I'm sure many of you have. I hated when I did attend school. Once I started being home-schooled (I think I was 12) I really opened up and was more outgoing.

Everyone is different.

I guess this wasn't actually directed at you, Primus
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#38
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Fucking this.

After a certain point, some kids don't need teachers anyways. Some kids don't need an unnecessarily strict system which punishes them for being vastly more efficient and brighter than most of the other people in said system. Until you provide an alternative system that feeds the same material but allows kids to work at their own pace (should be the norm anyways if you ask me), give me homeschooling at the very least. I suffered from grade 1 to grade 12 because of this. I'd have killed for homeschooling. When I got suspended for 10 days in grade 8 my marks went from 60's to 100's across the board. Then when I came back they dropped back to 60's. The primary concern should be with proving a means for the brightest to succeed rather than making them suffer for the sake of the dullest.

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#39
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Fucking this.

After a certain point, some kids don't need teachers anyways. Some kids don't need an unnecessarily strict system which punishes them for being vastly more efficient and brighter than most of the other people in said system. Until you provide an alternative system that feeds the same material but allows kids to work at their own pace (should be the norm anyways if you ask me), give me homeschooling at the very least. I suffered from grade 1 to grade 12 because of this. I'd have killed for homeschooling. When I got suspended for 10 days in grade 8 my marks went from 60's to 100's across the board. Then when I came back they dropped back to 60's. The primary concern should be with proving a means for the brightest to succeed rather than making them suffer for the sake of the dullest.


This is why I haven't voted yet. Home-schooled kids tend to be really smart, but incredibly socially inept the majority of the time. I did have to check in with this one place every couple of months to make sure that I was keeping up on my work. As I said, I was well ahead of everyone in 5th grade, and I did virtually nothing besides maybe an hour of work a day. Now I feel like I'm learning nothing other than what I learn on my own from the internet, which is mostly computer-oriented stuff. And wouldn't you know it, I'm passing all my computer-related classes without even trying.
#40
It's a terrible idea. Kids need to be around other kids to develop socially.

Most of the lifelong homeschoolers I've met turned out a bit "strange".