#1
Agile AL-3125 Chambered - $469.95

http://www.rondomusic.com/al31252ts.html

Gibson Les Paul Studio '60s Tribute - $849.00

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/guitars/gibson-limited-run-les-paul-studio-60s-tribute-electric-guitar

I know the price differences are drastic, but I've heard nothing but good from Agile's higher end AL models. Are the Gibson's upgrades/pickups/materials/etc. worth the extra money or should I go Agile here?

For the record, I once owned a lower end Agile that I was very unhappy with pickup-wise (had "EMG Designed" pickups, AKA:crap), so i'm a bit hesitant on settling on the AL before I know the quality of the pickups.
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#2
My personal experience has been that you tend to pay for the name too on Gibsons, I've had a few Les Pauls and while they sounded awesome I wasn't convinced by the overall finish and quality of the build. On that basis I wouldn't rule out a cheaper guitar at all, I don't know the other one though so can't comment on it but I would highly recommend trying them both and comparing them. We also get ripped off for a lot of american built guitars over here due to import duty crap, the price gets about doubled.
#3
The Gibson in this instance. The P-90s are to die for.
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The Gibson in this instance. The P-90s are to die for.


Hmm... but are they flexible? I've never used them before. Can they handle anything from GNR, Hendrix, Clapton, etc.?
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Hmm... but are they flexible? I've never used them before. Can they handle anything from GNR, Hendrix, Clapton, etc.?

hahaha good one, yes, I'd say they are more flexible than humbuckers or single coils, because they are somewhere inbetween. Tony Iommi used a SG w/p90s Santana did, Townshend(The Who) did. I think that is enough flexibility.
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hahaha good one, yes, I'd say they are more flexible than humbuckers or single coils, because they are somewhere inbetween. Tony Iommi used a SG w/p90s Santana did, Townshend(The Who) did. I think that is enough flexibility.


Would you happen to know if putting P-90s into the Agile would be more cost effective?
For example, the P-90s in this bunch here?
http://www.seymourduncan.com/support/audio-samples/humbuckers_and/


I'm digging the chambered body.
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Would you happen to know if putting P-90s into the Agile would be more cost effective?

I'm digging the chambered body.

The Gibson is chambered too. Yes, putting a nice set of P-90s will be a big upgrade in the Agile, I love Agile but I hate their stock pickups.
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#8
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The Gibson is chambered too. Yes, putting a nice set of P-90s will be a big upgrade in the Agile, I love Agile but I hate their stock pickups.


I'm also digging the price tag
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#9
Yeah the price is good, but try them out first. Also try the Gibby to compare.
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#10
Just make sure you like the Agile before you buy it. You'll have hard time selling it compared to the Gibby and it'll devalue to 1/2 what you paid.
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#12
The Gibson is the better guitar in every regard. But you asked to take price into account and that's the breaker. If your budget is tight and the Gibson will wipe out all your funds and leave you totally broke then it would be silly to get that.

My advice would be to wait and save up until you are in a more comfrotable position to buy the Gibson. When you're looking at MIA or MIJ guitars but settle on some random copy brand because they seem 'better value', really all you're doing is wasting your money. You're spending money on something to make-do and satisfy your desire for a new guitar now and in the long run you're still going to be wanting the big pro MIA or MIJ instrument. It's better to save up and buy what you really want right away. Even if you don't have great income and saving up means waiting another couple of months, a few months of waiting compared to the years and years and years that a quality guitar will last you.
#13
Also there's a thread a page or two back about Agile vs Epiphone vs Gibson. You should read that (but ignore the shit-flinging on the third and fourth pages)
#14
The answer is the Gibson and you're a ****ing moron to ever think otherwise.
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#15
Used gibson would be best value

Although if you go new make sure you go to a shop and buy the exact one you try for there lower end shiz.
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Just make sure you like the Agile before you buy it. You'll have hard time selling it compared to the Gibby and it'll devalue to 1/2 what you paid.


Well I could easily return it if I don't like it, no? I've done it before with the agile I mentioned in the first post.

I think I'm going to try the Agile and see if I like the guitar itself, and if I do, i'll switch out the pickups with some Seymour Duncan P-90s. And if I hate it, i'll save up some cash (it will take me forever but i'll get enough some day).
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#18
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Used gibson would be best value

Although if you go new make sure you go to a shop and buy the exact one you try for there lower end shiz.


Used 60s Tributes aren't much cheaper than the new ones from what I've seen. Might as well just spend a bit more and get a new one.

The Gibson is a great guitar. It's what I'd buy given this dilemma.
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#19
if you buy the agile, at some point down the road you will regret not getting the gibson.

it's gonna happen, deny it if you want, that's cool.

some people half ass things their whole life. it's your life, you make the call.

good luck.
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#20
Does the Gibson come with the case? Agile don't. I'd go for the Gibby.
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#22
I'd get the Gibson, but maybe that's because I'm a Gibson guy. If deep down inside you want a Gibson, you won't like the Agile, not matter how good it is (and from what I hear they're VERY GOOD). If the name means nothing to you, then get the Agile.
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if you buy the agile, at some point down the road you will regret not getting the gibson.

it's gonna happen, deny it if you want, that's cool.

some people half ass things their whole life. it's your life, you make the call.

good luck.
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#25
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The answer is the Gibson and you're a ****ing moron to ever think otherwise.


HI MR. FLIBBLE. =D

Anyways, I'd say go for the Gibson. Agiles are generally good guitars for the money, sure, but the Gibson's going to be better-built, and I've tried some 60s Tributes(2 SGs and a LP), and they were all very nice guitars, every bit as nice as the Standards I tried(though I do like humbuckers better in the neck). And like Gregs said, if you want the Gibson the Agile's not going to satisfy you, and you're going to want the Gibson until you get the Gibson.
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