#1
So I saw a vintage LP for sale today, and i was wondering what its worth, since it wasnt priced. It's a 1970-72 LP Deluxe Goldtop. Lots of scratches, dings, and buckle rash. And theres a random switch to nothing drilled into the control cavity. Very, very nice player, but thats about it.

So UG, what's it worth?
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#2
$6000 and maybe even more.
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#3
If its indeed real, in the cosmetic condition that you have described id guess somewhee between 2000 and 4000
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#4
Wow, Im suprised a guitar that looks that rough could be worth that! It plays soooo nice though.
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#5
Man no way is it $6000, it might be worth that if the condition was better.

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#6
Fifty bucks. If you have to ask the answer is always $50.00. Plus with the quality of the photos,30.00 might be too much.
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#7
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Man no way is it $6000, it might be worth that if the condition was better.

this, old LP deluxes go for around £1500-ish around here and that's when they are in pretty close to mint condition.. so that'd be around $2000 at the very most i'd imagine.

of course... this thread is useless without pics. despite your very in-depth description we can't actually see what sort of condition it's really in...

edit: it had to be the guy with the pete townshend avatar who over-estimated what an old les paul deluxe is worth
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#8
It's only the pre-70 LPs that fetch the big bucks. The 70's up are old yes but construction is Norlin-ized wiht 3 piece maple necks, volutes, pancake bodies and inaccurate body specs.
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#9
the 3 piece maple necks didn't start until almost the mid 70s.

pics man pics.

the random switch drilled part just knocked the value down a bunch.

i mean a bunch.
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#11
Around $3000 to $6000 all depends on the amount of dings and general battery it has taken :P
#12
ya well if they are worth that much i have a stock 73 deluxe goldtop i'll gladly let go for $3k.


*crickets*
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#13
Quote by gregs1020
ya well if they are worth that much i have a stock 73 deluxe goldtop i'll gladly let go for $3k.


*crickets*


. a beat LP isn't worth $3000 let alone 6. personally i'd think the seller would be lucky to get $1000 for it. it's just not a highly prized year or model. if it's as bad as the description i'd just pass period.
#14
Quote by monwobobbo
. a beat LP isn't worth $3000 let alone 6. personally i'd think the seller would be lucky to get $1000 for it. it's just not a highly prized year or model. if it's as bad as the description i'd just pass period.

they have a niche following.

believe it or not, some people actually like them.
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#15
Quote by gregs1020
they have a niche following.

believe it or not, some people actually like them.


i know, not saying there is anything wrong with them . played an early 70s one years ago when a guy came with one to try out for the band i was in. not a bad guitar at all. just saying that despite being "vintage" there really isn't as many people looking for that model and certainly not a beat one.

quick trip to ebay shows that only 1 73 LP deluxe has sold lately and it was in really nice shape selling for $2600. obviously a beat one will go for much less.
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#16
Not that much less, though. Saying you'd be lucky to get 1000 is false. 1400 seems like a more reasonable tentative price. We'll need pictures to be more accurate, but even beat to hell there are people willing to pay 1100-1200 for those guitars.
#17
about $2000-$2500. All these people saying $6000 don't know very much, a good condition late 69 is about that price, a mid70s crappy condition Deluxe will not go for much.
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#18
Here's a quick CL search, lots of price variance but I think it shows that mid-1000s to low 2000s is about average. There's one for 3800 but that guy has been trying to sell it for a long time, and it's not moving at that price, even though it's in great shape. There's one for 5500 too, but it's near-mint (and won't go for that much). That's collector bait, not really relevant but I threw it in anyway.

http://charleston.craigslist.org/msg/2684410967.html
http://miami.craigslist.org/mdc/msg/2661186927.html
http://kansascity.craigslist.org/msg/2616972640.html
http://nashville.craigslist.org/msg/2622278914.html
http://buffalo.craigslist.org/msg/2667873627.html
http://nashville.craigslist.org/msg/2623817345.html
http://austin.craigslist.org/msg/2625732249.html
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Here's a quick CL search, lots of price variance but I think it shows that mid-1000s to low 2000s is about average. There's one for 3800 but that guy has been trying to sell it for a long time, and it's not moving at that price, even though it's in great shape. There's one for 5500 too, but it's near-mint (and won't go for that much). That's collector bait, not really relevant but I threw it in anyway.

http://charleston.craigslist.org/msg/2684410967.html
http://miami.craigslist.org/mdc/msg/2661186927.html
http://kansascity.craigslist.org/msg/2616972640.html
http://nashville.craigslist.org/msg/2622278914.html
http://buffalo.craigslist.org/msg/2667873627.html
http://nashville.craigslist.org/msg/2623817345.html
http://austin.craigslist.org/msg/2625732249.html


did you notice that most of those are in pretty nice shape? . sure if someone wants to sit on a guitar and wait then eventually they can get more but based on the description given the guitar in ? seems like a dog. those are also asking prices not sold prices. just saying that in the current market guitars in crappy condition don't really move well unless dirt cheap.
#20
There are some really beat up ones in there. Even then, the cheapest one is 1000 and it has had a lot of parts replaced. The fact that I can't find any for less than 1000, even completed, says that you're probably incorrect. If you can find a few that have sold for significantly less than 1000, you might have a point. For now, the evidence points to a 1000+ sale price. The ones in great shape are priced very much higher than 1000.

It just seems that people who own that guitar and need to find a selling price would be decently informed as to its value. If you have a better indicator of price, that would be helpful.
#21
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There are some really beat up ones in there. Even then, the cheapest one is 1000. The fact that I can't find any for less than 1000, even completed, says that you're probably incorrect. If you can find a few that have sold for significantly less than 1000, you might have a point. For now, the evidence points to a 1000+ sale price.


dude i gave an opinion and you seem hell bent to "prove" me wrong, what's up with that. since we've seen no pix of this guitar no one can definitively prove anything. it might not be as bad as the OP made it sound or he could be being generous. doesn't realy matter as this is hardly worth the effort.
#22
You realize opinions can be wrong, yes? If you said it was worth $20, you would be objectively wrong. If you don't want people to point out that you are poorly informed, either provide something to back up your opinion or don't post.
#23
Quote by monwobobbo
. a beat LP isn't worth $3000 let alone 6. personally i'd think the seller would be lucky to get $1000 for it. it's just not a highly prized year or model. if it's as bad as the description i'd just pass period.


please read what i said carefully it is strictly an opinion. nothing definitive stated here. since your a Mod and a kid i won't continue to argue with you (yes i said kid as i'm much older than you ) not a matter of right or wrong or disimformation just an opinion.
#25
clownbursts sell for a lot less.

modified guitars sell for a lot less.

i just sold my not modified goldtop, well, pending payment, for around $2500.

that's reality to me.
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#28
and i can think of a few "beat les pauls" that are worth a hell of a lot more than $3k.
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#29
Well, i see some people are just having a field day discussing LP values, opinions, and age differences

I see this paul being discribed as beat. I wouldnt really call it that. It's kinda dinged up, missing the pickguard, and's got some bad buckle rash, but idk if i'd call it beat. Think pretty comparable to that first sunburst paul posted. It has a mini humbucker in the neck, fullsize in the bridge. Both original I believe.
Wish i had pics, but it belongs to my uncle in nashville, so i cant get'em.
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#32
$1200? Damn it i need a job I'd snap it up in a heart beat otherwise. Gold tops are sexy to me haha
#33
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get the serial number and the pot codes.

the case is from the 80s.

the guitar may be too.

if he had gruhn tell him the year he knows the stuff i'm requesting. also get a shitton of pics emailed of the back of the neck, back of the headstock & control cavity.

hurry up.
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#34
I emailed my uncle requesting what you asked for greg. I've done some simple work on it for him when I've visited in the past. I doubt the pots and case are original IIRC. Any specific things you wanna know about the headstock and neck? I've spent a good amount of time with it, and i might be able to remember some details.
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#35
i have played a decent amount of vintage gear (nothing past the $5k range), and to some buyers a beat up/used and abused guitar is appealing. i like a well used guitar. it seems like a lot of people fall for a piece of gear because it is vintage, and probably not all being totally informed of its value and essentially ripped off.

i just buy what i like. my $.02 maybe a little bit less. $.01 lol.
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#36
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I emailed my uncle requesting what you asked for greg. I've done some simple work on it for him when I've visited in the past. I doubt the pots and case are original IIRC. Any specific things you wanna know about the headstock and neck? I've spent a good amount of time with it, and i might be able to remember some details.

1 or 3 piece neck? mahogany or maple? volute or no?

serial number helps but even one original pot code would help. (even if in the case)

it's tough to nail down the exact year without an original pot code. even gibson couldn't tell me but a 5 year span on my serial number. pot codes are the only real way other than some construction nuances, but those overlap a bit making an exact year tough peg.
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#37
the bridge pickup isn't original obviously since it's a full size. that mod alone pretty much kills any "vintage" value the guitar had.