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Christopher Alder, a former soldier from Burnley (and brother of Janet Alder, a personal friend of mine) died while in police custody at Queen's Gardens Police Station, Kingston upon Hull, in April 1998. He had earlier been the victim of an assault outside a nightclub and was taken to Hull Royal Infirmary where, possibly as a result of his head injury, staff said his behaviour was "extremely troublesome." He was escorted from the hospital by two police officers who then arrested him to prevent a breach of the peace. On arrival at the police station he was "partially dragged and partially carried," handcuffed and unconscious, from a police van and then placed on the floor of the custody suite while officers chatted between themselves and speculated that he was faking illness.
And that is how he died, with police officers, who did nothing whatsoever to help him, stood around him laughing and joking at his plight.

At an inquest held in 2000, the jury returned a verdict of unlawful killing. The five police officers who were present in the custody suite at the time were called to give evidence at the inquest, but on more than 150 occasions during the hearing refused to answer questions, citing Coroners Rules that the response could provide self-incriminating evidence. The police officers in question were subsequently charged with misconduct in public office.

Shortly after the verdict was returned the officers, backed by the Police Federation, sought to overturn it by means of a judicial review. They claimed that the coroner should not have given a verdict of unlawful killing as an option to the jury as the breaches of duty alleged against them could not amount to gross negligence. The Crown Prosecution Service initially decided that there was insufficient evidence to pursue criminal charges against the officers, but following a review of the medical evidence the officers were charged in March 2002 with Alder's manslaughter.
In June 2002, the trial collapsed when the judge ordered the jury to find the officers not guilty on all charges. Following the acquittal, an internal police disciplinary inquiry cleared the officers of any wrongdoing.

In December 2004 four of the five police officers were granted early retirement on stress-related medical grounds and received lump-sum compensation payments of between £44,000 and £66,000 as well as pensions.

In March 2006 the 'Independent Police Complaints Commission' chairman, Nick Hardwick, said the officers present when Alder died were guilty of the "most serious neglect of duty" amounting to "unwitting racism."
In January 2006, a civil jury also found that a man had been unlawfully arrested and charged with Alder's assault on the night he died "to divert attention away from the part the police themselves played in Mr Alder's death."
(most of the above history of this case was edited from Christopher's wiki page)

So, as you can all see, Christopher's family have been through hell, while police officers, who were certainly guilty of at the very least gross negligence, were rewarded with a heafty pay out and early retirement.
But for Christopher's family, the nightmare doesn't end there. More than 10 years after he was thought to have been buried, his body has just been found in a mortuary where it is thought it had been mixed up with the body of a woman, Grace Kamara, who was buried in his place.

Not only that, but in an added blow, the family had scattered the ashes of Christopher's niece Laura, (who sadly died in 2006, aged just 25, following illness) on the grave where they thought Christopher's body was resting, and now the grave has to be exumed, disturbing her remains in the process.

This is just horrible, negligence after negligence has caused Christopher's family an incredible amount of grief.

So can anything positive come out of this latest upsetting blow to Christopher's family? The only positive thing I can think of is that it re-opens people's interest in the case and the ongoing demand for justice for Christopher and his family.

If you wish to sign the petition for "Justice For Christopher Alder & Family", please click the link below.

Thankyou for your time.
Slacker.

http://www.gopetition.com/petition/35552.html
#2
He made a choice to go to that night club. We shouldn't be forced to take responsibility for his actions.
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#3
EDIT: I read the post properly. This is sad.

Personally I don't think a retrial will solve anything but give it a go anyway.

Sucks though. Sounds like he was a great guy. R.I.P.
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Signed.


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Not only that, but in an added blow, the family had scattered the ashes of Christopher's niece Laura, (who sadly died in 2006, aged just 25, following illness) on the grave where they thought Christopher's body was resting, and now the grave has to be exumed, disturbing her remains in the process.



What's the big deal with this?
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#7
Only because it was a bro if it was a lady she prolly looked like a whore and was asking for it.

Doh, I was trying to troll someone...but yeah signed, it's bullshit when the police are refusing to allow themselves to subject to the justice that they themselves are sworn to uphold.
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#8
Quote by StewieSwan
What's the big deal with this?

It's valuable to some people?
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Thanks for the advice. I'm going to put it, along with your other advice, into a book, the pages of which I will then use to wipe my ass.
#9
I thought this was a thread for the drummer for Guns.
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#10
TL;DR

Hit me up bitches
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#12
Quote by dann_blood
He made a choice to go to that night club. We shouldn't be forced to take responsibility for his actions.


You're seriously suggesting that Christopher's family don't deserve any justice because he went to a nightclub on the night that he died while police officers stood around him laughing and joking at his plight?

Quote by StewieSwan
What's the big deal with this?


It's just more upset, on top of everything else, for the family.


BTW. Sorry for the long post guys, but there's no short way of fully explaining the case.
#13
Quote by SlackerBabbath
You're seriously suggesting that Christopher's family don't deserve any justice because he went to a nightclub on the night that he died while police officers stood around him laughing and joking at his plight?

Yes. Yes I am. Individual responsibility and all that.
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Thanks for the advice. I'm going to put it, along with your other advice, into a book, the pages of which I will then use to wipe my ass.
#14
I can understand your grief, and I'm glad you're taking such a convicted response to this
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#15
Quote by dann_blood
Yes. Yes I am. Individual responsibility and all that.

What about the responsibility of the police officers? Adler is dead, he paid for his mistake with his life. They made mistakes too, didn't they?
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Quote by dann_blood
Yes. Yes I am. Individual responsibility and all that.


Dude.
To say I'm disappointed in your reaction would be a massive understatement. I'm not going to debate with you, or anyone else, over this. I've posted this request out of respect for Christopher's family, especialy his sister who I know personaly. I've always regarded you as someone I respect here, and if we get into this, I know I'll end up saying something that I'll probably regret.
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Quote by SlackerBabbath
Dude.
To say I'm disappointed in your reaction would be a massive understatement. I'm not going to debate with you, or anyone else, over this. I've posted this request out of respect for Christopher's family, especialy his sister who I know personaly. I've always regarded you as someone I respect here, and if we get into this, I know I'll end up saying something that I'll probably regret.

Oh c'mon, surely you know i'm not such an insensitive cunt Using an exaggerated form of rhetoric that people who use that rhetoric believe in to mock such people who would think such things.
Quote by Vornik
Thanks for the advice. I'm going to put it, along with your other advice, into a book, the pages of which I will then use to wipe my ass.
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Quote by dann_blood
Yes. Yes I am. Individual responsibility and all that.

I don't think going to the nightclub was the most important part of this issue. He got attacked outside the club, taken to a hospital to be treated for head trauma and from there dragged to a police station where he died on the floor of his cell while the men who could have helped him stood and watched. On top of that the police officers never got accused and the whole thing was swept under the rug. THAT was the point of this thing. Besides I don't think that going to a nightclub robs you of your civil rights
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Quote by dann_blood
Oh c'mon, surely you know i'm not such an insensitive cunt Using an exaggerated form of rhetoric that people who use that rhetoric believe in to mock such people who would think such things.



Stop it. You're being a pain, not clever.


Signed.

EDIT: I am signer #69. Heh.
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#21
i would sign but i dont think these online things significantly make any difference
#23
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You don't think a lot of things. I'm not even sure you think at all.


i cant think of a time this sort of thing ever made a difference at all.not trolling.

i think op should make a real life one instead or atleast aswell
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Quote by CoreysMonster
Stop it. You're being a pain, not clever.

I'm flattered that you think i'm trying to be clever. You know there will be people who think that what happened is excusable, several of which will likely post in this thread at some point.
Quote by Vornik
Thanks for the advice. I'm going to put it, along with your other advice, into a book, the pages of which I will then use to wipe my ass.
#25
Quote by Lulzcifer
i cant think of a time this sort of thing ever made a difference at all.not trolling.

i think op should make a real life one instead or atleast aswell

I'm not sure you can think at all.

But for real dude, you took longer to post this than you would have to sign. Just saying.
#26
You one of very few people I've ever debated around here whos an arrogant or ignorant dickhead. Congratumalations.

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#27
For everyone that's signed the petition so far, thankyou very much for your support.


Is it going to make a difference to the case itself? Who knows? Possibly not, but at the very least it shows the family that there are people out there who sympathise with them and support them, which, hopefully, will go some way towards helping to see them through this very upsetting time.
#28
I'd like to see the police officers involved getting punished for once. They always get away with everything. They have a duty of care and every time someone gets killed or dies within it those responsible are acquitted.

I'll sign once I get home.
#29
Signed. Would make a change to have the Police held accountable to the law they pretend to enforce.
#30
Shit, Slacker, I've had some tragic deaths in my family but none where any of us have had bear that kind of pain for anywhere near as long.

Signed. Do let us know progress if it happens, pally
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Quote by dann_blood
He made a choice to go to that night club. We shouldn't be forced to take responsibility for his actions.

Wait, what?

Do people go out and party because they want to be assaulted fellow patrons, and then get arrested and have the arresting officers let them die from their injuries?

I don't know what you're trying to say here. You're normally a voice of reason in the mad place.


I believe police officers should suffer harsher sentences than regular folks when they break the laws they're employed to uphold. Instead, their crimes are forgotten and they're dismissed and then rewarded in silence. Nobody should be above the law.
#32
^As far as I can tell, he was being a rather average troll. So no fear, Sir Rayge.
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Quote by mike_anderson25
Shit, Slacker, I've had some tragic deaths in my family but none where any of us have had bear that kind of pain for anywhere near as long.

Signed. Do let us know progress if it happens, pally


Cheers bud. Will do.


BTW, if anyone is interested in reading deeper into the case, (and also because I forgot to mention this in my opening post) the petition I posted is linked to this website;

http://caseblog.wronglyaccusedperson.org.uk/justice-4-christopher-alder/
#35
Quote by mike_anderson25
^As far as I can tell, he was being a rather average troll. So no fear, Sir Rayge.

Makes more sense than him going completely bonkers.


Quote by a comment attached to somebody's signature on the petition


Christopher was wearing a belt that night.
Christopher's trousers were zip fastening and did not have a buttoned fly. The significance of his double incontinence was 'overlooked' by all those experts, as was the place it occured - in the van. Also in the van are black marks, obviously made by sole/heel of boot or shoe. The blood spatter is typical of resulting from him being hit in the mouth inside that van. He could not have pulled his own trousers down with his hands cuffed behind his back.


What?
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#37
I'm also from Burnley. Or like, right next to Burnley. No one likes us

But seriously, I'll sign it.
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#38
Quote by jrcsgtpeppers
so while he was in a van he got a blowjob? what?


No, it's suggesting that while in the back of the van, his trousers were pulled down to restrain his legs and stop him struggling while he was kicked in the face.

The police have stated that Christopher walked out of the hospital unaided although they had kept a gentle grip on him to prevent him falling and to "guide" him. Once outside the hospital, Christopher argued with the police officers, who had initially told him to go home, and he was then arrested to prevent a breach of the peace and placed in the back of the van.

Although handcuffed, Christopher was seen climbing into the back of the van unassisted, so his trousers certainly were not down at that stage. Strange then that just 6 minutes later when they reached the police station, he was unconcious with his trousers around his knees.
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#39
Sent this link to a few friends, asked them to do the same and pass it on.
Quote by Vornik
Thanks for the advice. I'm going to put it, along with your other advice, into a book, the pages of which I will then use to wipe my ass.
#40
His family has my full sympathies. I've gotta run now so the least I can do is bump this thread up
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