#1
Hi everyone, I recently bought a Boss RC-30 Loop station, but to be honest, im not very happy with it. What bugs me is:
1) I can't switch from one loop to another with my feet, so basically once I lay down a couple of chords and overdub them I cant go back to just the rythm, and play something completely different (because I can only undo the very last thing I played with my feet).
2) Whichever effect I have on my amp applies to the loops as well, even the drum track, so I cant lay down a clean riff and then solo over it with a nice distorted sound (I know I could get rid of this by connecting it to the fx loop, but my practice amp at home doesn't have one).

So I looked around a little and found the Jamman Stereo and the Vox VDL-1.
Has anyone tried some of these pedals? or does anyone know any alternatives that are about in this price range?

Any info, tips and ideas are welcome,
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#2
About the first thing...I do believe you can connect additional pedals to it if you want the functionality of switching loops. It should say in the manual..it said something about that for my RC-3 at least.

As for the second thing..well what did you expect? That it magically removed all the amp distortion and other pedal effects?
If you can distortion pedals you can place them in front of the looper, and that should at the very least sort that out.
You'll get the same problem no matter which looper you choose if you run it in front of your overdriven/distorted amp

If you can compromise a little you can use a looper like Line6 JM4 which has built in effects and amp sims. Running that infront of a clean amp should work fine for you.
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#3
Hey Kartman - I bought the Digitech Jamman Solo for the exact reasons that you're pedal bothered you! You can skip back and forth through 99 of your loops with ease. It has a dedicated mic port, and expansion SD card which I pushed up to 32 gig. There's software that you're supposed to download to manage your loops and recordings, which I'm just exploring now.

But so far, I've gotta say it's an awesome bit of kit. Very precise, easy to use (and I suck at the tech world) and overdubbing with vocals, drum tracks, layered guitar and bass all at once is easy and fun. As Townsend said, these pedals are a great way for one man to make a whole lotta noise.... Or words to that affect.

Display is very clear, as are controls. Mate I can't fault it. They're ridiculously expensive here in Oz, so I buy all my stuff on ebay from 100% sellers. Haven't been disappointed yet. $700 here, delivered from Jersey for $217 new with full warrantee. Can't complain with that.

Only thing is, you can't loop a distorted channel when you're looping clean stuff for your rhythm for example. You can't just crank you're distortion and play over that, so you need a dedicated pedal (I've just bought a tube screamer) to compensate for that, but as yet haven't had the chance to test this method.. But am assured it works.

I use this acoustically, electrically, and rely on it on stage with saved loops when I'm solo. Hope this wasn't a waste of your time, but look into it - you'll easily sell your other one...
#4
The RC-30 claims to have two independent synced tracks. The Jamman does not have that. On the Jamman you can change loops on the fly easily with the external footswitch. I heard the RC-30 has a pause when changing loops. There are more expensive loopers like the Boomerang and the newer RC-300 that offer more options.

As mentioned a looper can only be used on a clean amp if you expect predictable results.
#5
On question 2 does this still happen if you use the amps effects loop?
#6
^He said his amp doesn't have an effects loop. In which case there's nothing you can do if you get your effects from your amp. Now if you get your effects from pedals, keep the amp on a clean channel and put all the pedals in line before the looper and record the loops as needed and then once the loop is playing you can change the effects as needed. If you're looking to get your distortion from the amp then you're shit out of luck without the effects loop but at least there's technically an alternative.
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#7
go and buy a used gnx4 and see how magical is it's looper and other features
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#8
Quote by crash4316
Hey Kartman - I bought the Digitech Jamman Solo for the exact reasons that you're pedal bothered you! You can skip back and forth through 99 of your loops with ease. It has a dedicated mic port, and expansion SD card which I pushed up to 32 gig. There's software that you're supposed to download to manage your loops and recordings, which I'm just exploring now.

But so far, I've gotta say it's an awesome bit of kit. Very precise, easy to use (and I suck at the tech world) and overdubbing with vocals, drum tracks, layered guitar and bass all at once is easy and fun. As Townsend said, these pedals are a great way for one man to make a whole lotta noise.... Or words to that affect.

Display is very clear, as are controls. Mate I can't fault it. They're ridiculously expensive here in Oz, so I buy all my stuff on ebay from 100% sellers. Haven't been disappointed yet. $700 here, delivered from Jersey for $217 new with full warrantee. Can't complain with that.

Only thing is, you can't loop a distorted channel when you're looping clean stuff for your rhythm for example. You can't just crank you're distortion and play over that, so you need a dedicated pedal (I've just bought a tube screamer) to compensate for that, but as yet haven't had the chance to test this method.. But am assured it works.

I use this acoustically, electrically, and rely on it on stage with saved loops when I'm solo. Hope this wasn't a waste of your time, but look into it - you'll easily sell your other one...


Thanks man that sounds awesome... But didn't you have to get some kind of external pedal on the side to switch up and down the loops? It looks like the Jamman Solo only has one pedal... or did u mean the stereo?