FIFA refuse to let England football team wear poppies on their shirts.

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#1
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15643295.stm

Quote by bbc
On Tuesday, football's governing body rejected a second Football Association (FA) request to overturn the ban.

"It seems outrageous," said Mr Cameron. "I hope Fifa will reconsider."

As an alternative, the FA said England players will wear black armbands during the game and lay a wreath on the pitch during the national anthems.

Mr Cameron added: "The idea that wearing a poppy to remember those who have given their lives for our freedom is a political act is absurd.

"Wearing a poppy is an act of huge respect and national pride."


Fifa decrees that shirts should not carry political, religious or commercial messages.

"Such initiatives would open the door to similar initiatives from all over the world, jeopardising the neutrality of football," it said.


Absolutely ridiculous that a sporting body would sink to that low. To anybody that doesn't know, in England we wear poppies in November until remembrance Sunday (11/11 or the nearest Sunday to it) in respect for fallen troops from WWI onwards. FIFA has banned the football team from wearing them on their shirts in a friendly against Spain this Saturday.

This is an example of how the poppy is on the shirt (although that's obviously not an England shirt :p



Jepordising the neutrality of the sport, my arse.

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#3
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#4
Political correctness gone mad, reminds me of when we weren't allowed England flags so as not to insult the islamics who are in England.
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#5
That's ****ing dumb. How's that a political act?

Also,


Fifa decrees that shirts should not carry political, religious or commercial messages.

Huh? As in no advertising for companies such as say...Emirates or Genting Casinos?
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#8
Quote by Trowzaa
Political correctness gone mad, reminds me of when we weren't allowed England flags so as not to insult the islamics who are in England.


By my nan's house in inner city Birmingham, they celebrate Divali for days with fireworks and street parties which go on til really late into the night and the white people can't say anything, but she's not allowed to call a christmas tree, a christmas tree. it's bizarre.
#9
I don't get it, it's not like They're going against Germany, or any other country to which displaying that would be distasteful, but even if they we're, apart from a few countries, everyone respects, respecting the fallen soldiers.

But I also get very annoyed at people's need to be political correct towards a group that doesn't exist.
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Bloody fifa. Is very stupid tbh, and most likely done to the bias fifa has against england :/
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#11
How is it a political, religious, or commercial message at all?

This is ****ing stupid.
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#12
Aren't countries essentially just political boundaries? So..wearing your national flag would be a political display. I know it's not part of the kit, but singing God Save the Queen, is a religious move. Advertising on the kits is a commercial move.

**** you FIFA. Bunch of bitter old men with more money than sense.
#13
Quote by Tanglewoodguit
By my nan's house in inner city Birmingham, they celebrate Divali for days with fireworks and street parties which go on til really late into the night and the white people can't say anything, but she's not allowed to call a christmas tree, a christmas tree. it's bizarre.


I'm really starting to dislike this country. We're in England but we're not allowed England flags, poppies on England shirts and whatever else as not to offend immigrants yet they can do whatever the fuck they want.

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I don't get it, it's not like They're going against Germany, or any other country to which displaying that would be distasteful, but even if they we're, apart from a few countries, everyone respects, respecting the fallen soldiers.

But I also get very annoyed at people's need to be political correct towards a group that doesn't exist.


I doubt the Germans would even care, it's not like it's celebrating the victory in the war, it's in respect for fallen troops, I'm sure Germany probably has something similar and likewise, we wouldn't give a shit if they wanted to wear it.
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Quote by Trowzaa
I doubt the Germans would even care, it's not like it's celebrating the victory in the war, it's in respect for fallen troops, I'm sure Germany probably has something similar and likewise, we wouldn't give a shit if they wanted to wear it.


That's my point, it won't offend anyone. The group that if anything, would be the most acceptable to be offended by it, isn't even to begin with. So anyone else who would be is just ridiculous.
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#16
This actually really angers me. It's a national pride thing, a sign of respect. To even consider it political or religious is absurd.
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#17
Fifa decrees that shirts should not carry political, religious or commercial messages.

So the name of a sponsor is not a commercial message? What a joke.
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#19
The Veterans should just "officially" sponsor the team.
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#21
This is why soccer is lame. That and the fact that I'm American and therefore physically and mentally incapable of caring about soccer.
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The Veterans should just "officially" sponsor the team.


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#23
Quote by JustRooster
I'm gonna start calling Europe "lil America."

well a regional football association has nothing to do with societal or political values

and also im sick of shit like this:

Quote by Trowzaa
I'm really starting to dislike this country. We're in England but we're not allowed England flags, poppies on England shirts and whatever else as not to offend immigrants yet they can do whatever the fuck they want.

evidence?

Quote by Tanglewoodguit
By my nan's house in inner city Birmingham, they celebrate Divali for days with fireworks and street parties which go on til really late into the night and the white people can't say anything, but she's not allowed to call a christmas tree, a christmas tree. it's bizarre.

evidence?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGAOCVwLrXo#t=180

e: oh yeah and i always buy a poppy and leave it at home on the first evening and get sneered at for not having one !
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#24
FIFA never was a good organization.

Why does it take this response for people to realize ?
#25
I do find the poppy thing offensive considering your nation's role in the 19th century Opium Wars with China. They made a good call.
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#26
To the guys confused about the no-corporate logo part, I'm assuming these are just international rules, and national teams don't have sponsorship logos on their shirts.

But banning poppies is just stupid.
#27
Yeah, I can totally see how this is indirectly the fault of British minorities. Any body who genuinely believes this or any of the 'not allowed to call it Christmas' thing is an ignorant fool who deserves to be treated with as little respect as the tabloid cumrags they feed on.

That isn't to to say I agree with FIFA, though. Sepp Blatter is a moron.
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#28
"Such initiatives would open the door to similar initiatives from all over the world, jeopardising the neutrality of football,"


Makes sense.
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#29
Quote by funeralllllllll
well a regional football association has nothing to do with societal or political values

and also im sick of shit like this:


evidence?


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10181037
Alright, the flag ban was only for taxis, it was rumours it was everybody but still, you don't need a source on the poppy ban since it's right there.
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#30
Quote by Trowzaa
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10181037
Alright, the flag ban was only for taxis, it was rumours it was everybody but still, you don't need a source on the poppy ban since it's right there.


"Canterbury City Council has said attaching England flags to cabs would breach rules on what can be displayed on public service vehicles."

Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/surrey/8709173.stm

Yeah, totally the result of angry foreigners.
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#31
In the words of Limmy, jus' drap it.

Why people give a shit about petty bollocks like this, in this day and age, baffles me.
#32
Quote by Sir Daniel
"Canterbury City Council has said attaching England flags to cabs would breach rules on what can be displayed on public service vehicles."

Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/surrey/8709173.stm

Yeah, totally the result of angry foreigners.


Whatever then, still a load of shit about the poppies.
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#33
And the brits are always talking so much shit about the U.S.

You ****ers now have a national dress code. Suck on that.
#34
Quote by Confuse-a-Cat
To the guys confused about the no-corporate logo part, I'm assuming these are just international rules, and national teams don't have sponsorship logos on their shirts.

But banning poppies is just stupid.

They do have the logo of the shirt's brand on them.

Quote by stndrdprcdre
And the brits are always talking so much shit about the U.S.

You ****ers now have a national dress code. Suck on that.

read the fucking OP.
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#35
Quote by Trowzaa
Whatever then, still a load of shit about the poppies.

You still haven't backed up your argument that this is the result of some sort of ethnic over-sensitivity. I'd like a source.
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#36
Quote by Sir Daniel
Yeah, I can totally see how this is indirectly the fault of British minorities. Any body who genuinely believes this or any of the 'not allowed to call it Christmas' thing is an ignorant fool who deserves to be treated with as little respect as the tabloid cumrags they feed on.

That isn't to to say I agree with FIFA, though. Sepp Blatter is a moron.


It was an example. You can hardly deny political correctness has gone too far in the UK, not just racially but with things like pantomime actors aren't allowed to throw sweets into the audience anymore.

I never once said this was the fault of British minorities, but we do seem to have a culture in the UK where the government try to cater for the minorities rather than the majorities, more so than any other country in the world.
#37
Quote by Tanglewoodguit
I left my poppy at uni

So buy another one you cheap fuck.

More reasons for soccer to be considered pathetic. Yep.
#38
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So buy another one you cheap fuck.

More reasons for soccer to be considered pathetic. Yep.


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#39
Quote by stndrdprcdre
And the brits are always talking so much shit about the U.S.

You ****ers now have a national dress code. Suck on that.


This makes the rest of the Americans posting in this thread look stupid.
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