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#1
Hey guys, I'm doing a powerpoint for my uni course about illegal download, if you fill this in your automatically a legend
http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/L9GL73X

Personally, I'm doing this because I'm for legallising file sharing and think there are more benefits attatched in general rather than flaws, what's your take? Be interesting to get a few opinions from musicians and songwriters as well as everyone else
#2
FU adbot!

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#4
Done. I think people should respect the wishes of the artist. If they sell their music, you should pay them for it. If they give it out for free, then get it for free.
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#5
I dont have much need for downloading music anymore since I got spotify, I also think thats the way to solve the pirating problem, make something better instead of trying to illegalize something thats already so widespread.
#6
Done sir!

I think that it should be illegal. It's awful. I could rant on about but my fingers don't have the energy
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#7
wait....is this a bot or legit?
"Spin the middle side topwise. Topwise!"

"And there's Jimmy Page, the biggest thief of American Blues music"
#8
Done.

I think it should be legal, and shame on artists who don't appropriate filesharing to their advantage. The music industry elite has the foresight of a braindead monkey, and shame on them for not adapting to the changing landscape of the market.

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It should be illegal to upload, not to download.

You can't just reap the benefits of piracy while simultaneously wanting to criminalize the people allowing you to realize those benefits in the first place. Not cool, man.
Last edited by due 07 at Nov 11, 2011,
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You can't just reap the benefits of piracy while simultaneously wanting to criminalize the people allowing you to realize those benefits in the first place. Not cool, man.

+1

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"Spin the middle side topwise. Topwise!"

"And there's Jimmy Page, the biggest thief of American Blues music"
#10
File sharing is legal, unauthorized distribution of copyrighted material isn't. The only way to "legalize" it would be to retract copyright laws, and that should happen about, let's see... when hell freezes over. =)
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You can't just reap the benefits of piracy while simultaneously wanting to criminalize the people allowing you to realize those benefits in the first place. Not cool, man.

Yeah, k.

btw you guys do realize he's an adbot, right?
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#12
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Yeah, k.

btw you guys do realize he's an adbot, right?


Even idiots deserve a responce on here.
"Spin the middle side topwise. Topwise!"

"And there's Jimmy Page, the biggest thief of American Blues music"
#13
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Yeah, k.

btw you guys do realize he's an adbot, right?

Then why did the ad bot go to the effort to make a poll? I don't see any ads on the linked site either. Mind you I have script blocker, so forgive me if there is.
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Then why did the ad bot go to the effort to make a poll? I don't see any ads on the linked site either. Mind you I have script blocker, so forgive me if there is.
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He's technically an adbot
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#17
Who cares? It's not like he's the only one who can read the responses, and the topic is worthwhile.
The more you say 'epic' the less it means.
#18
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Adbot or not?

I asked this.....we'll just agree it was and move on
"Spin the middle side topwise. Topwise!"

"And there's Jimmy Page, the biggest thief of American Blues music"
#19
I am against it and since you are for it I won't help you by doing the survey (u mad?). People only do it because it is faceless it's no different than walking into a music shop and picking up a CD. Yet no one does that.

What benefits are there?
#20
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He's technically an adbot

Following that description word for word, then yes technically he's breaking the rules, but it appears it's a genuine reason for creating the link and not the usual dodgy adbot links.

Also, because he's only just created the account doesn't mean he hasn't been using the site for a long time for tabs, lessons, reviews etc. Just because this is his first post doesn't mean he isn't going to become a regular user of the site.

I say it's up to him to add another post proving he's a real person and let the Mods decide whether any action should be taken against him.
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#21
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I say it's up to him to add another post proving he's a real person and let the Mods decide whether any action should be taken against him.


This.
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#22
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I say it's up to him to add another post proving he's a real person and let the Mods decide whether any action should be taken against him.


Adbot's have replied before and tried to act human
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#23
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I dont have much need for downloading music anymore since I got spotify, I also think thats the way to solve the pirating problem, make something better instead of trying to illegalize something thats already so widespread.


Yeah spotify is great for users...for artists on the other hand, not so much. They earn like 0.001 cents for each stream. It's absurd.
I still use it tho because it's the only legal way to get free music which as a musician I don't think it should be. But I guess I can't do nothing about it...for now.
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#24
Bot.


Even if not, this is ultimate-guitar.com,

not ultimate-idontplayguitarbutliketochatwithpeoplecauseivenorealfriends.com
#25
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not ultimate-idontplayguitarbutliketochatwithpeoplecauseivenorealfriends.com


you advertising brah?
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#26
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File sharing is legal, unauthorized distribution of copyrighted material isn't. The only way to "legalize" it would be to retract copyright laws, and that should happen about, let's see... when hell freezes over. =)



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#27
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People only do it because it is faceless it's no different than walking into a music shop and picking up a CD.

WRONG, WRONG, WRONG ,WRONG, WRONG, WRONG. Stealing a cd creates a loss because the store had to purchase that cd and people had to produce that cd. A physical equivalent to illegal downloading would be photocopying an entire novel at a library, or recording someone else's copy.

That being said, I am against it and I purchase music to support artists but w/e. I see pro's and cons of both sides so I don't push my agenda.
#28
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you advertising brah?



Oh I see!

Subtle advertising of "Brassiere"-s in your post!

You adbot!
#30
It's illegal because it's stealing. An artist is trying to earn money (yeah I know they get most of their money from touring, merch etc but it is still their money that they have earned, no matter how you try to justify it) and you're depriving them from it.
#31
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It's illegal because it's stealing. An artist is trying to earn money (yeah I know they get most of their money from touring, merch etc but it is still their money that they have earned, no matter how you try to justify it) and you're depriving them from it.



Why is everyone talking only about music?

There's also movies, video games, software, pornz
#32
He is not an adbot because he doesn't have a crappy Linkin Park avatar

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Why is everyone talking only about music?

There's also movies, video games, software, pornz


Probably because this is a website that is primarily geared around music, but you're definitely right. The one that is most common among my friends is series and movies. Not so much music though or games though. Porn is in a category of its own.
#33
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He is not an adbot because he doesn't have a crappy Linkin Park avatar


Probably because this is a website that is primarily geared around music, but you're definitely right. The one that is most common among my friends is series and movies. Not so much music though or games though. Porn is in a category of its own.


Explains all the rape/child abuse/sex/world disaster threads >.>
#34
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WRONG, WRONG, WRONG ,WRONG, WRONG, WRONG. Stealing a cd creates a loss because the store had to purchase that cd and people had to produce that cd. A physical equivalent to illegal downloading would be photocopying an entire novel at a library, or recording someone else's copy.

That being said, I am against it and I purchase music to support artists but w/e. I see pro's and cons of both sides so I don't push my agenda.


Pirating the music also creates a loss because that's potential money for the artist in question. Now I understand that a lot of labels don't give their artists jack shit, but the more independent labels do a good bit better of a job at that, and the artists that produce their own records, IE, Periphery, Animals as Leaders, get most of the money for their work (I'd assume).

So it's still stealing, its just some bands get hurt more than others. Sorta like stealing a candy bar from walmart, they wont notice, but a smaller shop would.

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#35
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Pirating the music also creates a loss because that's potential money for the artist in question.

So it's only a loss for the artist in the same way that it's a loss for you if I don't wire you $20 right now.
#37
Done.
I'd be more against it if I didn't do it so much. Moonshine music would still be around if it weren't for illegal downloading.
#38
the way I see it: If we were to buy music instead of stealing it (because it IS stealing) music companies would begin to supply more of the music we like. Also, you can't use the excuse that you're just downloading it to listen to it and if you like it you'll buy it, because that's bullshit. There's this website called YOUTUBE where you can go listen to most of everything any artist puts out, for FREE.
#39
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So it's only a loss for the artist in the same way that it's a loss for you if I don't wire you $20 right now.


Did I earn it? No.

They worked hard to put out an album. I didn't do anything for 20 bucks.

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#40
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So it's only a loss for the artist in the same way that it's a loss for you if I don't wire you $20 right now.

Only if he invested several hundreds of thousands of dollars in creating an entertainment product that you received illegally without giving him monetary compensation for his investment.
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