#1
At the moment i'm using a Line 6 spider IV 30 and have been for a year now, and I'm looking for a replacement (once I sell the Line 6). I was looking at a Peavey Vyper 75 for all of the settings ect it has, but is it better or worse than the Line 6 for clean and metal tones? And can you get a cheap, easy footpedal for the Peavey like you can the Line 6?
#2
There's the Sanpera pedals for the Vypyrs. They're nice, but they're not cheap.

At the risk of getting flamed by all the Vypyr fans on this site, you'd just be moving from one beginner amp to another. Is there a difference between these two amps? Sure is. But is it worth spending possibly a couple hundred bucks on a new Vypyr? I don't think so.

We can make other recommendations if you'd like, but then we'd need a little more info:
https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1387138
#3
Quote by TheQuailman
There's the Sanpera pedals for the Vypyrs. They're nice, but they're not cheap.

At the risk of getting flamed by all the Vypyr fans on this site, you'd just be moving from one beginner amp to another. Is there a difference between these two amps? Sure is. But is it worth spending possibly a couple hundred bucks on a new Vypyr? I don't think so.

We can make other recommendations if you'd like, but then we'd need a little more info:
https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1387138


Allright, well my budget is around £200-250, I play mostly metal (Megadeth, Metallica- the usual crap ) New or used, for home use, and i'm currently using an LTD/ESP EX-50 with EMG pickups
#4
If your using it for home use the Vypyr will be a great improvement over the Line 6, Is this the tube or SS vypyr?
#5
Quote by maowcat
If your using it for home use the Vypyr will be a great improvement over the Line 6, Is this the tube or SS vypyr?


I'm not sure if it's tube or SS?
#6
I have no experience in Peavey amps, but I am pretty sure the 75 watt version is solid-state.
#7
With that budget, you will have a tough time finding a good metal amp... there are several ways to go about this though.

1) Get a small, good amp that takes pedals well and a decent distortion pedal. While this won't sound as good as a dedicated high-gain amp, it's still better to have a small, good amp than a big crappy one. A VHT Special 6 is a good place to start and a keeper, even if you upgrade later on:
http://www.thomann.de/gb/vht_avsp16_special_6_valve.htm
Add a decent pedal and you're set (this is the cheapest one that I think is actually decent):
http://www.thomann.de/gb/digitech_hardwire_hw_tl2metaldistortion.htm


2) Get an amp that has a good amount of gain on tap already. The Bugera V22 is worth a look:
http://www.musicstore.de/en_EN/GBP/Guitars/Tube-combo-amps/Bugera--/art-GIT0016277-000
For '80s Metallica and Megadeth, this might just do it. If it doesn't, a boost up front would suffice to get you all the '80s thrash tones you might ever need. I understand this is pushing the budget, but it seems like a good option to me.


3) Get a used Line6 Flextone III off ebay. You should be able to score one for under 250 quid without a problem. They've been discontinued two years or so ago, but they're still among the better modelling amps out there. Think of it as the Spider's bigger brother - they do the same things, only the Flextone does them much much better.


Quote by emil_sej
I have no experience in Peavey amps, but I am pretty sure the 75 watt version is solid-state.

Indeed it is.

There are also models with a tube power-amp, and supposedly they are much nicer, but they also cost a lot more than the solid-state Vypyrs.
#8
Quote by TheQuailman
With that budget, you will have a tough time finding a good metal amp... there are several ways to go about this though.

1) Get a small, good amp that takes pedals well and a decent distortion pedal. While this won't sound as good as a dedicated high-gain amp, it's still better to have a small, good amp than a big crappy one. A VHT Special 6 is a good place to start and a keeper, even if you upgrade later on:
http://www.thomann.de/gb/vht_avsp16_special_6_valve.htm
Add a decent pedal and you're set (this is the cheapest one that I think is actually decent):
http://www.thomann.de/gb/digitech_hardwire_hw_tl2metaldistortion.htm


2) Get an amp that has a good amount of gain on tap already. The Bugera V22 is worth a look:
http://www.musicstore.de/en_EN/GBP/Guitars/Tube-combo-amps/Bugera--/art-GIT0016277-000
For '80s Metallica and Megadeth, this might just do it. If it doesn't, a boost up front would suffice to get you all the '80s thrash tones you might ever need. I understand this is pushing the budget, but it seems like a good option to me.


3) Get a used Line6 Flextone III off ebay. You should be able to score one for under 250 quid without a problem. They've been discontinued two years or so ago, but they're still among the better modelling amps out there. Think of it as the Spider's bigger brother - they do the same things, only the Flextone does them much much better.


Indeed it is.

There are also models with a tube power-amp, and supposedly they are much nicer, but they also cost a lot more than the solid-state Vypyrs.


Cheers
But i've never really heard of a tube amp, what is it?
#9
In Britain, the term "valve" is more common.

Tubes/valves are what was used for amplification and computation before transistors came along.
There's very few applications for tubes nowadays, but instrument amps, specifically guitar amps, is one of them. Almost all the classic guitar amps that guitarists like to drool over were tube-driven, and with a few exceptions, almost all high-end amps today are also tube.
Apart from tube-circuitry, there's also transistor-amps (also referred to as "solid state" amps). They are generally cheaper to manufacture for various reasons, but ever since tube-amp-production in the far east has become common-place, you can find tube-amps even in the lower price-brackets, which means that solid state amps have been pretty much reduced to the cheap beginner-stuff and the rare and expensive high-end modelling-amp.

Making a good tube amp is pretty easy. Making a good solid state amp seems a good bit harder, moreso since the common goal seems to be to make solid state amps that sound like tube amps. Keep in mind that it's still possible to make a crappy tube amp or a really good solid-state one. Hybrid-forms are also pretty common.

All of this only applies to guitar btw.
#10
I hear Peavey Vypers are great for metal. Roland Cubes have 60W and 80W versions and there are foot switches available for them. Try both?
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#11
Dewd y wud u wanna change from ur line 6? the insayn channel iz radzzzz
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Try the Peavey Vypyr Tune 60. Way better than the solid state vypyrs. I have the tube 120. Bloody versatile, esp if you count the 3 different boosts and how they affect amp tone.
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#12
actually, if you're willing to go used a Vypyr Tube 60 is about the same price used as the Vypyr 75 is new. I get great metal tones out of my 75 though. I'm quite fond of the Rectifier model, especially during recording.
#13
Quote by shecter guy
actually, if you're willing to go used a Vypyr Tube 60 is about the same price used as the Vypyr 75 is new. I get great metal tones out of my 75 though. I'm quite fond of the Rectifier model, especially during recording.

+1

I love mine

I paid $315. Frickin steal.