#1
Hey there, I've recently gotten into listening to heavy stuff like The Obsessed, Saint Vitus, Orange Goblin, Kyuss etc. and was wondering what are some of the basic foundations that make these bands sound the way they do?

For instance, are there any common scales that crop up in this genre of music?

I know a lot of them use drop tuning alongside distortion pedals and construct small interlinking riffs that drive the music while using deep bassy sounds.

I've been experimenting using E flat standard tuning alongside a Big Muff to try and emulate the sounds I'm hearing and it seems to be working ok.

If anyone could give me any tips or tricks in order to excel in this genre or point me towards some resources where I could research further that would be appreciated.

Thanks for reading and for any help you can give.
#2
I've been tryin' to figure it out as well. I find keeping riffs as simple as possible plays very well into this genre. I like to use some blues influenced riffs, seems to fit the part.
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#3
Well i would try tuning your guitar to c-standard, and on your amp keep the mids low.
other than that i don't really have advice, it's more about the feel with most of the riffs, not a certain mode.
#4
Try using lower tunings but keeping them in the 'standard' way of tuning:
So tunings like:
Eb Standard
D Standard
C Standard
B Standard

Use the pentatonic scale or the blues scale and work that b5 for riffs and solos.
Use chromatics, play fairly slow, high mids, a good amount of gain (don't go overboard with it), don't make your sound too trebley or tinny, use 5th chords and other variations of powerchords, sliding into chords, palm muting, tempo shifts, don't be afraid to get a bit atonal.

Don't overthink it.

Some bands that would be good to listen to:
Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, Iron Monkey, Cathedral, Thergothon, Eyehategod, Raging Speedhorn, QOTSA, Autopsy, Black Flag.
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#5
I know Josh Homme of Kyuss loves using Drop C tuning. My favorite doom/stoner/sludge metal band is Pelican and they only use B standard
#6
Thanks for the advice guys, I'm going to have to experiment with these different tunings. I'm guessing I'll be needing to map out the different chord positions and such with each different tuning I try?

Thanks for the list of bands to listen too as well, I think it'd be good to listen to as much as possible for inspiration.
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Quote by Aki.
Thanks for the advice guys, I'm going to have to experiment with these different tunings. I'm guessing I'll be needing to map out the different chord positions and such with each different tuning I try?

Thanks for the list of bands to listen too as well, I think it'd be good to listen to as much as possible for inspiration.


Depends on what you mean by "map out the different chord positions and such"
The chord shapes won't change, unless you Drop tune, which is when you make the lowest string a whole tone lower than all the other strings.
But what i recommend (as well as everyone else on here) use lower standard tunings:

E Standard
E A D G B E

D Standard (All strings down a whole tone)
D G C F A D

Drop D
D A D G B E (Lowest sting is down a whole tone)

So basically nothing will change with your fingerings if you keep it standard.
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#8
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I know Josh Homme of Kyuss loves using Drop C tuning. My favorite doom/stoner/sludge metal band is Pelican and they only use B standard

Kyuss used C standard. Pelican aren't really stoner/doom and they use a variety of tunings.
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For ****s sake, it's C STANDARD. People always talk about Drop C which is dead wrong most of the time.
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For ****s sake, it's C STANDARD. People always talk about Drop C which is dead wrong most of the time.


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#13
I reckon it could be useful to have 2 guitars when gigging then, each with a different tuning on it.

Thanks for all your advice, I'll get working on some tunes and tell you how I find it!
#14
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Kyuss used C standard. Pelican aren't really stoner/doom and they use a variety of tunings.


Genres are open to interpretation, and I actually asked Pelican what tuning they use and they said they only use B standard, even on acoustic songs
#15
Maybe they only use B now but I'm pretty sure March Into the Sea is higher. Been a while since I played any of their stuff. Did you ask them if they were a stoner or doom band too? Because I suspect they'd find that pretty funny. They just aren't. Even with Sunn O))) taking them under their wing.
#16
I went to a doom metal show last wednesday sort of by accident. Don't know if anybody is familiar with him, but it was Hank Williams the third. Hank Jr's son. I'll admit right off that i went for the country/hellbilly initial portion of the show. He does the doom metal stuff at the end. I stayed for the whole show because i like the guy, but a lot of people left. I mean a lot. It sounded pretty good to me, just like his country stuff better personally. There's plenty of youtube stuff with him playing doom /stoner rock shows, and even explains his doom playing gear in one video. Sorry i don't know how to to links.
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Maybe they only use B now but I'm pretty sure March Into the Sea is higher. Been a while since I played any of their stuff. Did you ask them if they were a stoner or doom band too? Because I suspect they'd find that pretty funny. They just aren't. Even with Sunn O))) taking them under their wing.


I've seen their Twiter account and it says "Post-everything band." They dont like to classify theirselves as a certain genre... but I think their first album has some doom/sludge in it, like the song Australasia. But then again its open to interpretaion.

And I recognize my mistake, Kyuss and Queens play mainly in Standard C, not in Drop C