#1
i need a cab. preferably a 4x12 cuz i play metal. so... yeah. my budget is fairly flexible but is around $175.
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#2
Erm....... New? Don't bother. A 4x12 for $175 will sound much worse than a 1x12 for the same price.
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#3
i shoulda said used, sorry
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#4
^Indeed. If you can stretch your budget or go used, jet city makes nice cabs.
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#7
get a 1x12, that wont even get you a 2x12 for that. or save up more
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#8
Ampeg cabinets arent bad... I got my Avatar 4x12 for $100, so if you shop around its possible.

Not very probably though.
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#9
Yeah, I'll agree with the Ampeg suggestion. Or get an older Peavey cab. Like one of the MS models. They're pretty good. Don't bother with the ValveKing/Windsor stuff.
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#10
Is this a joke? $175 isn't even enough to buy a half-decent 1x12.

Based on your profile, I say save for a new amp before buying any piece of guitar equipment. A 4x12 won't make a Fender Frontman sound better. You can turn your Frontman into a 2x12 cab, however. Put it to much better use. But then you will need to buy a head, but it will at least be worth it.
#11
i haven't updated it in a while, i now have a b-52
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#12
$175? Build your own 212 and load it with your preferred speakers.

$75ish for materials and you can find a pair of good used Eminence speakers for $100. Otherwise you're most likely gonna end up with a complete junk MDF cab of some sort.


EDIT: Do you still have the Frontman 212? Just use it for a speaker cab and buy a pair of speakers to throw in it. With $175 you can get a pair of nice speakers used or new.
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#13
i might be able to get a 2x15 cab, should i?
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#14
If it's the Randall one they are pretty decent. I had the chance to use one once.
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#15
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i might be able to get a 2x15 cab, should i?


A 2x15 will be very heavy, and you'll have a great deal of bass to your sound. If you don't mind that, then go for it...
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#16
Eh, it wasn't that bassy for me. I mean it had a little more low end but not much more than my Mesa 4x12.
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#17
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A 2x15 will be very heavy, and you'll have a great deal of bass to your sound. If you don't mind that, then go for it...



it should be about the same or less weight wise than a 4x12, and by my math a 4x12 has quite a bit more cone area. so, i'd say you may be able to get more low end out of the 4x12. unless by more bass you mean a lower frequency extension, then you're right.
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#18
nooooooo the place with the 2x15 went out of business fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
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#19
Look for a used Jet City 4x12, they have a good build quality and diecent speakers. New they are only like $350.

You can also look for a used Line 6 Flextone 4x12 cab, they are really nice cabs also.


EDIT: Also look at used Laney GS 4x12 cabs
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#20
I've got a b-52, and other bands ask to borrow it during shows after they hear me play it nearly every show. I've heard nothing but good things about the b-52 4x12 cab.
#21
which model? the ls412?
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#22
Either get a new 2x12, or a used 4x12.

Over here in the UK, Hayden do a 4x12 cab for the ridiculous price of £99 and do you know what? It ain't half bad.


On the whole though, with cabs you get what you pay for so it's best to either buy secondhand or quit worrying about image and buy a smaller cab. I'm sure you'll find something good on fleabay though.

Make sure it's a closed-back cab and of reasonably solid construction (if money's tight enough that you're buying a cab for $170, I doubt you've got top-notch band transport or road crew - so you don't want something that'll fall apart)
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#23
What is this?

Stop focusing on a 4x12. You don't need one.

A 2x12 is fine. Having said that, find a decent used 2x12.
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#24
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What is this?

Stop focusing on a 4x12. You don't need one.

A 2x12 is fine. Having said that, find a decent used 2x12.


You don't need 3 amps...
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#25
If you are stateside go for a crate blue voodoo cab. Best 4x12 cab for the money- V30's.

The are cheap over here in LA.
#26
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You don't need 3 amps...


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irrelevant to this thread.

If you are trying to save money, a 2x12 is great. Not to mention, there is hardly a volume difference with a bigger cab, hardly a tone difference either.

So for one to save money, a 2x12 is the best option.

Why take a shot at my amps?

One is for gigs, one is for practice, one is for sale.
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#27
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You don't need 3 amps...


why is that relevant to the thread? that's the same as me asking you why you don't have two. everybody should have two, so in case of a breakdown they have a back up common sense to me. so regardless of your ignorant comment.

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#28
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If you are trying to save money, a 2x12 is great. Not to mention, there is hardly a volume difference with a bigger cab, hardly a tone difference either.
They still have a purpose. They project the sound out more so the tone is more consistent throughout the space you are playing in instead of just having all of the sound coming from one small narrow space, making the guitars more audible when on stage and not having to be sent through the monitors.

Though I strongly doubt the TS wants a 4x12 for that purpose. Even so, he's not going to find shit for $175. The best he can do is order something like an Eminence Legend V12 or a Celestion G12T-100 and build a DIY 1x12 himself, or order a set of phono jacks and use the speakers in his Frontman as a cab.
#29
I've heard bands play a pretty good sized bar with 2X12's and they sounded amazing. My 212 recto cab can bring the brootz with no problem. 2 more speakers won't make THAT much difference.

Look around on CL, you may be able to find an avatar cab used. Or if you're handy with a saw you could build one.
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They still have a purpose. They project the sound out more so the tone is more consistent throughout the space you are playing in instead of just having all of the sound coming from one small narrow space, making the guitars more audible when on stage and not having to be sent through the monitors.

Though I strongly doubt the TS wants a 4x12 for that purpose. Even so, he's not going to find shit for $175. The best he can do is order something like an Eminence Legend V12 or a Celestion G12T-100 and build a DIY 1x12 himself, or order a set of phono jacks and use the speakers in his Frontman as a cab.


I've played places with out a PA system and was still heard with my 2x12

I do like the idea of turning his frontman into a cheap cab though.
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#31
I'm not saying that it's impossible to be heard with a sole 2x12, I'm just saying that a 4x12 projects the sound through a wider orb than just a 1 or 2x12, just making it better. It also sounds wider on-stage, but that really doesn't matter to the audience since they're hearing a mic'd signal from one speaker.

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I do like the idea of turning his frontman into a cheap cab though.
Easy and cheap: http://www.ecrater.com/p/12511519/speaker-cabinet-stereo-mono-jack#

The Fender speakers won't sound amazing, but probably better than a cab that's $175.
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I'm not saying that it's impossible to be heard with a sole 2x12, I'm just saying that a 4x12 projects the sound through a wider orb than just a 1 or 2x12, just making it better. It also sounds wider on-stage, but that really doesn't matter to the audience since they're hearing a mic'd signal from one speaker.

Easy and cheap: http://www.ecrater.com/p/12511519/speaker-cabinet-stereo-mono-jack#

The Fender speakers won't sound amazing, but probably better than a cab that's $175.


Exactly.

He could replace the Frontman speakers as well. And just swap them out into a better cab in the future.
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#33
i got an idea! i'm gonna use my fender as a cab. i'm gonna build a box and separate it into a head and cab and use the fender head as a backup, 'specially cuz i can get the wood for free in my school. would i need special jacks?
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#34
If you have halfway decent soldering skills and decent woodworking skills it shouldn't be a problem. You're gonna need a few 1/4" or speakon or whatever kinda jack you want to use, one for the output of the amp section, and 1 or 2 for the cab itself (input and output, the output is so you can have 2 cabs in series.)
#36
oh jeez, it's cuz of my phone. i didn't see it. lawl
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