#1
Hello there,
I wonder if someone has tried/know for sure something about a bass setup.
My band plays C#.

I have a 5-string bass(Ibanez SR305-IPT).

Since now, I have tried dropping my whole tuning 1 and a half steps down, which means it went from standard BEADG to G#C#F#B E. My 5th string(G#) is not used at all this way, but I don't care.

My bass wears a .45-135 set. Strings are loose, but playable. Now, we(they) decided to play except for the standard songs, another 2 extra songs which are... Drop B! 4th string was already a little bit loose than I wanted, now it's ****ed up because I have to drop it an additional whole step.
I decided it is not worth it, cause I can't play(I sing at the same time) like that, I lose beats sometimes because of that string jamming.
I decided to change it and instead of tuning my bass 1,5 steps down(with an additional step down for my 4th string occasionally), I should tune it 1 whole step up since its a 5-string bass(I will also get to use my 5th string and partially forget my 1st string).

The tuning will become C#F#B E A(5-4-3-2-1).

From what I know, (let alone the truss rod adjustment
)you need THICKER strings(higher gauge) for dropped-down tunings and Less-Thick-than-Standard for tuned-up tunings.

What worries me is the correct selection of string gauge for each of the strings.


I talked with the specialist that will adjust my truss rod and he tried to dissuade me from doing this, because he says he has never heard of tuning 1 step up a bass guitar again(ffs) and he is afraid that they won't fit well(I disagree).

Finally, I have searched all other options, but this is the only way because I don't want to make it standard tuning and transpose the songs(or get a capo 2nd fret)
#2
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My band plays C#.

get a new band
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#3
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get a new band

Would you say that to Jonas Renkse for example in 1996 when he made Brave Murder Day with Katatonia?

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#4
The tech is half right. The only thing you may need to change is the nut.

What you want to do is perfectly acheivable and has been done before. The way I would do it is to get a heavy four string set, and a single heavy high C string. So at that point, you are dropping all the strings by two steps, which is done loads anyways, you're just tuning like a tenor five string with a higher string rather than the lower one.
#5
Quote by ChucklesMginty
Get a heavier gauge and tune G#-C#-F#-B-E. Dan Briggs from BTBAM does this. Tuning your C# down to B should be too big a deal if you have the right gauge, it'll just be like tuning to Drop D in standard tuning.

The tech is right, and you shouldn't disagree with him because he'll know a lot more about instrument setup than you do.

I don't know why you'd want to tune up instead of down. You'll be playing the exact same pitch as the guitars and it'll sound shit.


Last part is completely wrong.
First part is also wrong.
In fact, Dan Briggs does what I am trying to do.
He has a 5-string tuned 1 step up C#F# B E A.
Quote by Deliriumbassist
The tech is half right. The only thing you may need to change is the nut.

What you want to do is perfectly acheivable and has been done before. The way I would do it is to get a heavy four string set, and a single heavy high C string. So at that point, you are dropping all the strings by two steps, which is done loads anyways, you're just tuning like a tenor five string with a higher string rather than the lower one.


Of course I would get him to adjust the nut, that goes without question.

Thanks a lot, but my question needs a more exact answer:

Exactly what string gauge should I use for each string(I need the numbers).
Something Like .40-.60-.75-.95-115(or 118 if I can find one). These numbers are semi-arbitrate though, and I need the precise and correct numbers so I can tell the tech tomorrow of what strings should he put on.
Last edited by Aionios at Nov 24, 2011,
#6
Unfortunately there are no precise numbers, as different gauges have different tensions associated with them and people have their own preferences on that. You're probably looking at around 45-50 up to 105-115, and whatever heavy high C you can find, but the only thing we can reasonably provide without actually being you is a guide.
#7
Quote by Deliriumbassist
Unfortunately there are no precise numbers, as different gauges have different tensions associated with them and people have their own preferences on that. You're probably looking at around 45-50 up to 105-115, and whatever heavy high C you can find, but the only thing we can reasonably provide without actually being you is a guide.


I found a guide too and I got lost in all these numbers.
45/50(for the G string) is for standard BEADG tuning though, shouldnt I get less thick strings(40 for example)
#8
Quote by Aionios
Last part is completely wrong.
First part is also wrong.
In fact, Dan Briggs does what I am trying to do.
He has a 5-string tuned 1 step up C#F# B E A.

.

Ehhh...

No he doesn't. It's G# C# F# B E. I don't think he's ever used a high A string.


But personally, i'd drop tune. Tuning high sounds nice if you're really going to play high up and solo, but i'm a groove type of bassist, and dat G# would sound sick though a nice set up.

Try getting D'addario singles, id use a .145 for the G#, .135 for the C#, .110 or .105 for F#, .85 for B and .75 for the E.
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#9
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id use a .145 for the G#, .135 for the C#, .110 or .105 for F#, .85 for B and .75 for the E.


That's horrible.

I tune to C# and am perfectly happy with a .110
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#10
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That's horrible.

I tune to C# and am perfectly happy with a .110

Meh, that's me personally. I use a .110 for E, and I wouldn't use that for D even. I'd use a .135 for B which is only a whole step down from C#, so it's not exactly unreasonable, considering I like my strings tight.
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#11
i did pretty much the same thing but im tuned to D A D G C. i got a 0.25 for the C string
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