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#1
Okay good day,
A little intro, I made a guitar once, and I started a bass guitar. Never finished the bass but I recently started working on it. I currently work at IBM company, and im finishing this year of university, im studying architecture. This year I did not do anything related to guitar build, university took most of my time.

Soo, ive decided im going to quit my job and start making some guitars! so, before i quit ive started a little project. I bought some tools I needed, and im gonna craft a strat guitar.

I haven't decided much yet, so im open to suggestions.
Up to now what I have is little, just the neck idea.

The neck is going to be red cedar with curupay.
Red cedar is very similar to mahogany, work wise. And curupay is a national wood, very nice.

I havent got any ideas on body wood, nor pickguard color. Dont know if im gonna make it with or without pickguard. Have not got any ideas for pickup, dont know if im gonna paint it solid color or leave a natural finish.

Anyways whats a post without some snapshots.

Fretboard







Neck Wood, Cedar.



Had to plane it down and cut some of the sides for space for the headstock



#3
Started with the routation









Anyways, I command you to:
Give me some ideas for the body, ill probably get wood after tuesday, since I got a big exam tuesday. So I need wood ideas, what color of wood would go nice. Probably ill get a national wood, so its cheaper but there are equivalents to the would you all know. Also give me ideas for colors if you prefer painted guitars.


To all thanks and cheers.

Yours truly,
#7
Okay so I bought a bandsaw.

I think that the bandsaw together with the drill press and router are the most important power tools, the other ones, you can get away with without having them

On a second note, I bought some wood. It seems spalted, I do not know what to do with it so I need some Ideas PLEASE!!!






Should I use it as a cap? Or try to make a body out of it???

Anyways moving up ahead, I bought wood for the body, and im not painting it, it is going natural you’ll see why. I went to a lumberyard and I got the only piece of wood they had for a one piece guitar. Red eucalyptus and it is Facking flamed!!!! Only drawback is that it has a knot, but it does not matter, im gonna fill it. Its gorgeous, cost me 50p, that is aproximatly 12,5 dollar.




Last edited by divinorum69 at Dec 3, 2011,
#8






And I started to do some work. I roughly cut out the body, in the only way I could because the piece of wood had a bevel from the natural shape of the tree, and I traced a body in the only way it would remain unaltered. It has some knots. But I will do away with them.




Last edited by divinorum69 at Dec 3, 2011,
#9
So just a little mock up. The're are all redish woods for this build!! damn.




What do you think? Black pickguard, white pickguard? no pickguard with electronic cavity from behind? Ive already decided that it will be a hardtail strat.



Please give me some opinions on everything that I ask!!! I want them, ideas thoughts comments.

Thank you very much.
#11
Quote by Explorerbuilder
Bad idea using that wood with a GIANT knot man. its most likely going to continue to crack, even if the board is dry.


The wood is super dry man. Im going to fill it up with titebond, and the top will be filled with epoxy mixed with sawdust. Its gonna be ok, I got a feeling.
#12
Well, im not getting much attention haha. Id really like some opinions on wether to put a pickguard or not.

Anyways some updates. I reduced the thickness of the fretboard with the router. Its not a very clean or precise method. I had to sand a lot. I also slotted the fretboard, and I finished the neck shape with the router.





#13
I think a pickguard would be a good idea, as it would cover that knot. However, what color to use depends on what you're doing for the finish. Good work on the neck so far, that fretboard looks really nice!
#14
Quote by blaaargh
I think a pickguard would be a good idea, as it would cover that knot. However, what color to use depends on what you're doing for the finish. Good work on the neck so far, that fretboard looks really nice!


Yay! One reply!

Im starting to toy with the Idea of having the body stained with an orange tint. And I could possibly put a black pigckuard with black harware. What do you think?
#15
hmmm i really like a black pick guard with natural finish on a strat. Check out my build in my sig- black pickguard white pickups chrome hardware- Oh and its a hard tail strat too; quite a few similarities ! (I got farkall replies in that thread too ?! UG must hate on strat builds :p )

One more crazy coincidence- I found a piece of red hard wood under the house yesterday, I thought it was a red pine native, so I glued up a body blank. Well it turns out that it is a Gum of some sort (eucalyptus) its destined to become a tele body I'm thinking, but maybe laminated as it'll end up around 35mm after thicknessing.

The grain is quite unique- no flame like you'res but its much redder than mahogany and has nice open pores that are speckled with black bits. Looks real nice, am going to thickness it with my router- then may have some pics if you're interest. It splits quite easily, but dang it looks real pretty
#16
Quote by GandalfWh1te
hmmm i really like a black pick guard with natural finish on a strat. Check out my build in my sig- black pickguard white pickups chrome hardware- Oh and its a hard tail strat too; quite a few similarities ! (I got farkall replies in that thread too ?! UG must hate on strat builds :p )

One more crazy coincidence- I found a piece of red hard wood under the house yesterday, I thought it was a red pine native, so I glued up a body blank. Well it turns out that it is a Gum of some sort (eucalyptus) its destined to become a tele body I'm thinking, but maybe laminated as it'll end up around 35mm after thicknessing.

The grain is quite unique- no flame like you'res but its much redder than mahogany and has nice open pores that are speckled with black bits. Looks real nice, am going to thickness it with my router- then may have some pics if you're interest. It splits quite easily, but dang it looks real pretty


Ok! Ill check out your build. You´d say it´ll look better with a natural finish with no stain?

Yes please I want some pics of that wood! I think UG prefers tele builds, dunno why.

thanks for the comment.

And btw, In quality terms how do you find removing thickness with a router?
#17
Well staining does look good with figured wood, its really you're own tastes that should dictate what YOU want it to look like.

I did mine the way I did because I had no other guitar, and kind of rushed it! If I'm unhappy with it later I'll remove hardware and change the finish but I'm happy.... for now.

Just finished thicknessing- I need to build a better jig, I didn't make the rails long enough so half way through I have to move the slab of wood- not ideal it ends up being slightly out- its quite time consuming, and not a fun job. BUT it does work and its cheap.

I rough cut the shape, got a little crack on edge of horn, so its glued and clamped, give me half a hour and I'll get a picture.
#18
Dude, I think it would be badass to just get some crazy colored stain and without any veneer or anything just for that crack, that would be cool.
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#19
Quote by divinorum69
Im starting to toy with the Idea of having the body stained with an orange tint. And I could possibly put a black pigckuard with black harware. What do you think?

That sounds sweet! and this is lookin amazing man i love the wood you picked for it
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#20
Give the guitar a fighter jet paint scheme and cover the pickguard with toggle switches, then build some effects pedals INTO the guitar, so you don't just have a bunch of useless toggle switches. You should make some toggle switches control each pickup individually, so instead of a pickup selector, you can independently turn each pickup on/off.
#21
Quote by FearMyLightning
Give the guitar a fighter jet paint scheme and cover the pickguard with toggle switches, then build some effects pedals INTO the guitar, so you don't just have a bunch of useless toggle switches. You should make some toggle switches control each pickup individually, so instead of a pickup selector, you can independently turn each pickup on/off.


I like the idea of a shitload of useless switches and knobs more. Put a odometer on there too.
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#23
Thanks to all the new reply's. The fighter jet paintscheme seems impossible and I dont like it sorry, I also dont like lots of switches. I like guitars simple. I belong to the philosophy less is more. Architectural and guitar wise.

I appreciate all of your comments really, and thanks for the support.


Quote by GandalfWh1te
Ok divinorum69 I just did the first pass of routing, and a word to the wise, this stuff does NOT like machining. Pics dont show too well but theres afew chunks missing ! A big crack right through the middle appears to be growing also
Pics are here:

http://s1128.photobucket.com/albums/m496/GandalfWh1te/


MMM, ive seen the pics. Man, why dont you send it to a woodshop and have them planed, should be cheap. I bought my wood already thicknessed. Its a fine piece of wood though. I say go on with it. Fill the cracks with a mix of sawdust and titebond
#24
Yeah, I'm trying to do everything that I can myself. Also its a learning curve to work with different types of wood.

I have finished routing as of 2mins ago, there is some more pretty pictures uploaded.

and yes, I will fill in cracks with epoxy/ sawdust. Hopefully they wont be too prominent.

edit: forgot to mention, the body itself weighs 5kg !!
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#25
Quote by GandalfWh1te
Yeah, I'm trying to do everything that I can myself. Also its a learning curve to work with different types of wood.

I have finished routing as of 2mins ago, there is some more pretty pictures uploaded.

and yes, I will fill in cracks with epoxy/ sawdust. Hopefully they wont be too prominent.

edit: forgot to mention, the body itself weighs 5kg !!


Damn thats heavy, post some pics. Btw, My tele build Weighs 6,5kg including neck.
#26
5 f*cking KG !! and its only 30mm thick !

As of 10mins ago the ugly crack down the middle is getting clamped; used epoxy glue just to be safe.

Will make a build thread once I'm abit further along, IF I can fix this body to my exacting standards
#28
Quote by LZRocker
I like the idea of a shitload of useless switches and knobs more. Put a odometer on there too.


Yeah don't forget a built in tuner would be badass.
#29
Looking good so far dude - that's an amazing piece of wood for the price you paid. I would definitely cover the knot, but there's some funky looking grain patterns surrounding it that would look great if you could still show them off.

I'm working with spalt at the moment, and it's horrible. Then again, yours doesn't seem quite as severe as mine, so you may have a better time of it than me. My only suggestion is to work slowly with it; I had at it with an orbital sander to shape it, and between the hard and soft patches I ended up with a surface looking like a teenager's face. Best of luck to you!
#30
Quote by divinorum69
So just a little mock up. The're are all redish woods for this build!! damn.




What do you think? Black pickguard, white pickguard? no pickguard with electronic cavity from behind? Ive already decided that it will be a hardtail strat.



Please give me some opinions on everything that I ask!!! I want them, ideas thoughts comments.

Thank you very much.


Go with the black pickguard. it will cover the knot and im not a huge fan of strats without pickguards.
#31
I havent got any ideas on body wood, nor pickguard color. Dont know if im gonna make it with or without pickguard. Have not got any ideas for pickup, dont know if im gonna paint it solid color or leave a natural finish.
#32
Quote by jackpeter58
I havent got any ideas on body wood, nor pickguard color. Dont know if im gonna make it with or without pickguard. Have not got any ideas for pickup, dont know if im gonna paint it solid color or leave a natural finish.


I see you're enjoying your new-found sense of membership on this forum. Good to have you here, but you don't need to post in every thread you read. Particularly if, as in this thread, you have nothing to say.
#33
I think it'd look awesome if you filled the cracks with black epoxy and had no pickguard, natural finish. But that's just me, im sure almost everyone would disagree
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#35
When you are routing anywhere near that knot, take extremely small passes. Otherwise, a big chuck of wood could come flying out. With a router going at 25,000 rpms, that would really mess you up if it hits you. Less important is that small passes will help prevent the body blank from being damaged also. Also, use epoxy as someone suggested and not titebond.
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#36
Okay thanks I will fill it with epoxy.... about covering the knot with a pickguard or not Im now starting to doubt. Okay Ill take your advise for small passes. And regarding the wood, it is reallt dry, IDK what makes you think its unstable?

Anyways soon Ill update because ive been making some work on the neck.
#37
Quote by divinorum69
Okay thanks I will fill it with epoxy.... about covering the knot with a pickguard or not Im now starting to doubt. Okay Ill take your advise for small passes. And regarding the wood, it is reallt dry, IDK what makes you think its unstable?

Anyways soon Ill update because ive been making some work on the neck.


Well according to some reading I've been doing, this wood is tone dead (only one luthiers opinion, mind) and also eucalyptus species are inherently 'unstable' (more of a factoid than opinion)

-However there is a fellow in Australia who makes mandolins from jarrah, he claims they have excellent bass response- he uses them for back and sides I believe, so maybe matched with a bright sounding top its good.

Hopefully you can tell us how it works for a solidbody electric

Also, Mk2 I'm going to agree with you on the black epox. would make nice contrast.

edit: the above 'tone dead' comment in its original context can be read here, and its post number 23:
http://www.tdpri.com/forum/telecaster-discussion-forum/100082-aussie-tonewoods-tele-build-suggestions-please.html
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#38
Quote by GandalfWh1te
Well according to some reading I've been doing, this wood is tone dead (only one luthiers opinion, mind) and also eucalyptus species are inherently 'unstable' (more of a factoid than opinion)

-However there is a fellow in Australia who makes mandolins from jarrah, he claims they have excellent bass response- he uses them for back and sides I believe, so maybe matched with a bright sounding top its good.

Hopefully you can tell us how it works for a solidbody electric

Also, Mk2 I'm going to agree with you on the black epox. would make nice contrast.


One source is not good enough. I think it will be stable, and I asked in the wood shop and they told me that it was a fine piece and no bending can happen.
And I dont think its tone dead. I think that it will sound ok.... updates coming.
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