#1
Hey folks,

So I've got this slab of mahogany that is 65mm thick, so thick enough to build a Les Paul and not need a maple cap.

My question is, how noticeably different will it sound with no maple top???

I thought I would ask this before I planed 20mm off it as mahogany is relatively scarce/ expensive for me to get, so I don't want to waste it, but I don't want a odd sounding LP.

I guess its going to be pretty dark sounding without the maple but how muchso is what I'm unsure on- Peoples experience on this will be most appreciated.

The wood in question, wiped down with spirits:
#5
it will have a warmer sound than a vintage les paul but not much different than a modern one.
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#6
There's plenty of guitars with solid mahogany bodies (Flying V, Explorer, SG) and they all sound fine. If you want hands on experience track down a plain basic LP Studio, some of them came without a maple cap but I can't remember the actual model.
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#7
I like the timber...........have no problems with it not having a maple cap. But if you build this les paul shape from the solid timber........how you gonna route the cable channels??
These are usually done before the cap goes on........just asking.
#8
thank ye all kindly for the replies.
I would love to be able to breeze into a music store and try out a basic LP studio, trouble is, I'd have to drive 5 hours to get to one! and then I'd be trying out a right handed one upside down. (not how I'm used to playing) yeah im a lefty.

dsss - yeah that has occurred to me, its been on my mind the last few days, other than a very long drill bit, going in where the jack is, all the way up to toggle switch; I don't have any better ideas.

at this stage I'm thinking I'll get a cap, can't afford figured maple, but its going to make life much easier using a cap.

With any luck I'll find some nice wood in the shed at home, we have lots of native hardwoods. If I don't I'll drop $90 on a basic maple top.
#9
You don't need to route under a cap to run your wires. Plenty of guitars don't have caps and they still get it done. You can get a really long drill bit and just drill holes from route to route.
#10
you make it sound easy. It isn't. Well its not super difficult, but not the simplest way to do things, with the tools I have.
If I use a cap I can do some weight relief chambering too which is probably not a bad idea.
#11
$90 for regular maple?? I guess importing things into New Zealand is pretty expensive then.. Assuming I didn't have the maple laying around (which I do) and had to go out and buy it, I could get a piece big enough at a .5" thick easily for under $20.

If you can find something nice that's native, go for it. The cap isn't load bearing so you could use pretty much anything that looks decent.
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2003 Gibson Flying V w/ Moon Inlay
2006 Fender All-American Partscaster
SVK ELP-C500 Custom

1964 Fender Vibro Champ
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