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#1
I know depression also occurs in older and even younger people, but it seems that most people that deal with depression are teenagers. So is depression, and maybe even suicidality, just a teenage rite of passage or no?
#3
depends on if it's legitimately depression or not. self diagnosing yourself is tardtastic. and not every teen is depressed, so I don't see how it's a right of passage.
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#4
Depression and angst are different things.
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#6
Alright. I just saw this in yahoo answers and was wondering what the pit thought.
#7
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Alright. I just saw this in yahoo answers and was wondering what the pit thought.


sounds like someone on yahoo answers wanted some attention most people i know who have been depressed, or committed suicide have hid it extremely well.
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#9
No. Not every teenager gets depressed, not everyone who suffers with depression develops it in their teenage years. I can draw you a venn diagram if you like.
#10
Genuine depression is significantly more crippling than teenage stress/very mild depression. The problem arises when a teenager has a mood disorder and it is written off as angst.

Also +1 on the venn diagram
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#12
OP: "Depression mostly occurs in teens = All teens go through depression"

Logic fail.
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#14
It's a self-induced negative thinking state of mind. No more, no less. I've been there, I've been out of it. Has nothing to do with age. If you can bring yourself into depression, you can bring yourself out of it. You can seem like the happiest person in the world on the outside, when you are dying a thousand deaths every day on the inside. It's only something you can experience - putting it in words is silly.

EDIT: I think it is also bioprogrammed, so people who can have depression will at some point, but by countering all of the negativity and irrationality with immersing yourself in the best of what this world has to offer, you can fight it.
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#15
Self-diagnosing yourself with mental illnesses is a teenage rite of passage. So in a way, yes.
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#17
I've never been properly depressed in my life.
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#18
Genuine depression (known as major depressive disorder) is a mental disorder.

You're just in a "depressive mood", which is just a low-feeling state. It's nothing compared to the real disorder.
#19
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Self-diagnosing yourself with mental illnesses is a teenage rite of passage. So in a way, yes.

I call bullshit.

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#20
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It's a self-induced negative thinking state of mind. No more, no less. I've been there, I've been out of it. Has nothing to do with age. If you can bring yourself into depression, you can bring yourself out of it. You can seem like the happiest person in the world on the outside, when you are dying a thousand deaths every day on the inside. It's only something you can experience - putting it in words is silly.

Are you saying this statement applies to all depression regardless of age or cause, or just that all teenagers cause their own depression if they suffer it?
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#22
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OP: "Depression mostly occurs in teens = All teens go through depression"

Logic fail.
The bigger fail is that statement 1 there is not true. Then, he naturally makes a logical fail, which is what you pointed out. TS, statement 1 does not lead to statement 2. Furthermore, statement 1 is not true.
#23
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I don't know about TS, but I wanna see this venn diagram.

Of course I'd like to see it. I'm actually pretty uninformed about the issue
#24
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Are you saying this statement applies to all depression regardless of age or cause, or just that all teenagers cause their own depression if they suffer it?


I added an edit to that previous post. The brain follows neural paths in cycles - I don't know why, but the redundancy builds thought. Your neural pathways and how your brain uses them define you. Though you may be bioprogrammed to feel this depression, I think you can change it. People who are neurologically programmed for these depressive cycles will experience depression, but I think it can be overcome by rewriting which cycles your brain follows.
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#25
Herp derp, I clicked Yes instead of No

Edit: I was gonna try and justify my side, but the guy below me did a far better job of what I was gonna say
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#26
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Genuine depression (known as major depressive disorder) is a mental disorder.

You're just in a "depressive mood", which is just a low-feeling state. It's nothing compared to the real disorder.


This.

Everybody gets "depressive" sometimes. I'd say sure, teenagers go through stupid ass crises that aren't really that important but they think they are so they get all "depressive" and say that they're depressed. So yes, many teenagers are "depressive" and most come out of it okay or else they're dumb or legitimately depressed. But are the majority in that category clinically depressed? Nah.
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#27
Technically I've never not been depressed to some extent. Even as a little kid.

I should probably get meds again but I don't have insurance or the motivation to talk to a doctor about it
#28
Emotions going out of whack because of hormones and overall growth of a person is not depression. Depression is a serious mental disorder. That said, it's not a good idea to off handidly write off a "depressed" teenager as hormonal or moody.
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#29
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I added an edit to that previous post. The brain follows neural paths in cycles - I don't know why, but the redundancy builds thought. Your neural pathways and how your brain uses them define you. Though you may be bioprogrammed to feel this depression, I think you can change it. People who are neurologically programmed for these depressive cycles will experience depression, but I think it can be overcome by rewriting which cycles your brain follows.

You just described CBT, albeit with a different way of describing endogenous depression and a more biological approach than schemas.
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#30
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This.

Everybody gets "depressive" sometimes. I'd say sure, teenagers go through stupid ass crises that aren't really that important but they think they are so they get all "depressive" and say that they're depressed. So yes, many teenagers are "depressive" and most come out of it okay or else they're dumb or legitimately depressed.


yes. being sad over a breakup, divorce, or whatever is completely different that a diagnosed severe depression.

real depression makes you think and feel really strange things. like regretting decisions you've made years ago and obsessing over them, fantasizing about who would be at your funeral, ect.
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#32
No. Depression is one of the most common issues encountered by GPs, it's both widespread and serious.
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#33
Wrong word. Not "depression". It's "teen angst".
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#34
I am a teenager who is diagnosed [by an actual psychologist] with depression. I am presently on medication for it.

But honestly, I think certain people just view life very negatively and that there really isn't much that can change that other than dramatic experiences with gravity enough to shift that perspective.
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#35
No, I have never been depressed.

I am generally pretty upbeat the majority of the time.
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#36
The majority of teens with depression are just whiny bitches who think they have it too hard. Today's society is so god damn touchy feely that everyone thinks their tiny miniscule problems are a huge deal. Like a girl who kills herself because her boyfriend broke up with her or something. Teenagers are idiots. I was diagnosed with depression, and I can easily ignore it because some days you feel good some days you don't, that's life. Depression is bullshit. People need to just learn that and stop complaining about their lives. If you live in North America you have NOTHING to be depressed about, unless you're homeless or dying.
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#38
Of course not.
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The majority of teens with depression are just whiny bitches who think they have it too hard. Today's society is so god damn touchy feely that everyone thinks their tiny miniscule problems are a huge deal. Like a girl who kills herself because her boyfriend broke up with her or something. Teenagers are idiots. I was diagnosed with depression, and I can easily ignore it because some days you feel good some days you don't, that's life. Depression is bullshit. People need to just learn that and stop complaining about their lives. If you live in North America you have NOTHING to be depressed about, unless you're homeless or dying.


And that folks is the most moronic, ill-informed and ignorant outlook on depression. Congratulations sir.

You may well have been diagnosed with depression but chances are it was a very mild depression, do some research into manic-depressive disorders, psychotic depressive disorders, etc, or just don't post anything. Either way works.
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