#1
How good is the blackheart killer ant at taking petals. Because of watter dammage I am forced to switch appattments next to the landlord. So I need a far quieter amp then what I currently have in my arsenal smallest thing I have is marshall valvestate v515r (its a 15w solid state) and thats too loud for the jack ass. SO I need something really small really quiet to prevent me from burning the whole place down. I value playing amplified guitar more than my neighbors lives so give me some advide that doesn't involve moving. You can sugest attunators as well too. I'm on a 300 dollar budget, I play metal, slayer, death, nile, immolation ect and I am more than willing to go used.
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#2
It takes pedals pretty good, but it still gets pretty damn loud for 1 watt
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#3
turn your amp down. a little practice amp doesn't need to be cranked so i must be missing something here.
#4
buddy u need something with a master vol, the blackheart handsome devil is a better option, that is what i have in an apartment!!! the 1watt will still be too loud with decent distortion. also keep the cab of whatever u buy off the floor, the bass will travel through to the lower level so get a stand or put it on a table of some sort.
#5
if modellers are okay for you, i can recommend the peavey vypyr 75/30 .. the 75 can get really loud but they are also good at low volumes ... well pretty much all modellers are, i think
#6
Quote by losing battle
So I need a far quieter amp then what I currently have in my arsenal smallest thing I have is marshall valvestate v515r (its a 15w solid state) and thats too loud for the jack ass.


well, here is the issue. guitar amps are designed to make a guitar sound louder. this may sound like i am being a prick, but it is an important point to remember. certain amp components (like speakers) are chosen cuz they are really loud, maybe 10 to 15 dB louder. certain designs (like an amp's tone stack) are usually geared to make you stand out more by focusing particular frequencies your ear is more sensitive to.

you don't just have a problem of "what amp to choose", you have a problem of "how do i choose a quiet guitar amp from a selection of guitar amps that are designed to sound as loud as possible".

do you know why your valvestate is too loud for this guy? cuz the frequencies from a guitar amp' speaker shoot right through the landlords thin wall in a frequency range his ear is most sensitive to.

you want a real viable solution? try and use a setup that is similar to something like a TV. most people can tolerate the volume from a fairly loud TV next door, and you should attempt to get a system with that type of volume range and freq response.

so, your solution may just be computer software like amplitube and use a computer speaker setup. it is what i use in hotel rooms when i am working on the road. sounds good enough.

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You can sugest attunators as well too.


attenuators will suck the soul outta your tone and won't do anything more than a master volume knob anyway when you want to be as quiet as you desire. an attenuator will also run you ~100 bucks. stay away, it won't help you.

you can buy computer speakers on clearance for 20 bucks.
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#7
Meh I hate moddlers they just sound so bleh. Yeah I know the vyper 75 has a power spounge knob but the tone leaves a lot to be I guess I could bring my effects in to try a vyper 75 and try out one of the cleans. The vyper seems like the best option unfortunatly. Amplitude isn't an option at all because I tried it on a friends and just simply didn't like it. Maybe their speakes and proccessors sucked. I could try a line six pod and if i like it get a pair of decent speakers.
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For metal, you're wasting your time with tiny amps. If a 15W practice amp is too loud, anything will be.

You'd be better off getting a cheap USB interface, Amplitube/Revalver and good headphones. Great tone at any volume, infinite flexibility and good for recording too.

You can get an interface for $12, and Amplitube is free, so you could get going almost straight away.
#9
i think pretty much anything with a tube power section would be louder than the 15watt you have, with the exception of the 1 watter BH , which may be comparable.
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For metal, you're wasting your time with tiny amps. If a 15W practice amp is too loud, anything will be.

You'd be better off getting a cheap USB interface, Amplitube/Revalver and good headphones. Great tone at any volume, infinite flexibility and good for recording too.

You can get an interface for $12, and Amplitube is free, so you could get going almost straight away.


he's mentioned that is he is already committed to buying an amp that will be too loud and maybe wasting half the money for an attenuator on it. besides, he tried amplitube at his buddies house and likes his marshall MG better.

that is alright, we tried.
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#12
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you need headphones.

This is your answer. If none of your amps have a phone out, look into something like a POD.

Unfortunately some times you are in a position where amps just aren't a viable option.
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#13
My biggest resistence to the computer modeling is I simply don't like it and also I like my tone I need to come up with an effective means of duplicating my tone just not skull crushingly loud so I came up with this. Buy ablacheart little giant. Theyre cheaper at the moment then a killer and and a set of wireless headphones. The little giant is being implemented because my current amp does not have have a headphone jack. Lastly what's with the valve state hate its not a bad litle practice amp for metal it does death just fine.
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#14
You're bitchin about tone and you considered using a valvestate?



Get a Pod and a set of headphones.
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#15
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he's mentioned that is he is already committed to buying an amp that will be too loud and maybe wasting half the money for an attenuator on it. besides, he tried amplitube at his buddies house and likes his marshall MG better.

Attenuator? Bullshit! If you're not using a non-master-volume amp like a vintage Marshall/Vox, or reliant on power tube overdrive (hint: you're definitely not) it's a waste of time and money. A very useful tool for some, but not for you.

If you don't like computer modelling, use hardware modelling (eg a POD instead) with a good set of headphones. If a crappy little solid state practice amp is too loud, anything will be.


Also, have you tried putting the amp on something (eg the sofa) instead of it sitting on the floor? With the volume low and the amp not connected to anything resonant, it would be no louder than a televison or radio.
#16
Quote by losing battle
My biggest resistence to the computer modeling is I simply don't like it and also I like my tone I need to come up with an effective means of duplicating my tone just not skull crushingly loud so I came up with this. Buy ablacheart little giant. Theyre cheaper at the moment then a killer and and a set of wireless headphones. The little giant is being implemented because my current amp does not have have a headphone jack. Lastly what's with the valve state hate its not a bad litle practice amp for metal it does death just fine.

How do the wireless headphones work?


I have a Killer Ant, it does not take pedals real well.
#17
Quote by losing battle
My biggest resistence to the computer modeling is I simply don't like it and also I like my tone I need to come up with an effective means of duplicating my tone just not skull crushingly loud so I came up with this. Buy ablacheart little giant. Theyre cheaper at the moment then a killer and and a set of wireless headphones. The little giant is being implemented because my current amp does not have have a headphone jack. Lastly what's with the valve state hate its not a bad litle practice amp for metal it does death just fine.

Also, no offence but 'your tone' is probably horrible. The Valvestate is, at best, a mediocre practice amp (and you'll hear much harsher than that). If you find a 15W solid state practice amp with a volume knob to be 'skull crushingly loud', you should not own a guitar amp full stop.