#1
i did make another thread asking if the epi dot royale is any good for the money, but didn't get quite the answers or other reccomendations i was after...

so yeh, i'm looking for a hollowbody, budget about £350 (£400 ABSOLUTE MAX)

nearest major city: Liverpool (england)

epi dot royale: http://www.dv247.com/guitars/epiphone-dot-royale-limited-edition-semi-acoustic-guitar--85259

played one last week in dawsons in liverpool and i liked the feel of it, couldn't hear it much as there was some pleb at the back of the shop who clearly had a high gain amp maxed and decided he wanted the whole shop to hear how br00talz his shredding tekkers were...

so didn't have a chance to hear the thing acoustically, and didn't fancy playing about with amps etc so got out of there after 10 minutes or so.

i'm after a sound like this: John Mayer - Come When i Call (Live in LA)

current gear:
Vox VT50 (i use 'boutique clean' setting, 1/3 gain so it doesn't distort all that much)
marshall - the gu v'nor distortion
digitech screamin' blues overdrive
EHX small clone chorus
SHO clone volume boost
Vox V847 wah
mxr m108 - 10 band EQ
danelectro fish n chips EQ
digitech whammy

so am i able to get that kind of sound from the dot royale with my current amp and pedals?

also is it a good guitar for the price? (bear in mind, andertons are also offering a free epi dot hardcase with it)

or are any of these worth a look as well??

Epiphone Wildkat

epiphone ES-175

Epiphone ES-339

Ibanez ES73T

Peavey Rockingham

Stagg A300 (white or sunburst)

Washburn HB35

i'm leaning towards either the wildkat, ES-175 or ES-339 if i were to not get the Dot Royale.

also seen these 2 in a shop slightly further out the way but still gettable to

http://backalleymusic.co.uk/contents/en-uk/p3388_hofner-contemporary-verythin-cherry.html

hofner contemporary verythin

and

http://backalleymusic.co.uk/contents/en-uk/p4785_hagstrom-hj500.html

Hagstrom HJ500

so yeh, sorry for the wall of text...

tl;dr - is the epiphone dot royale the best out of the mentioned guitars for the sound i want?

thanks guys
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#2
Get the Hagstrom brah, they're beasts.
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#3
Ibanez af75's are amazing guitars, they have the quality of a 1000 dollar guitar for around your price.
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Ibanez af75's are amazing guitars, they have the quality of a 1000 dollar guitar for around your price.


see i like the look of the AF75's but being ibanez i wasn't sure about the whole pickup set-up. like they'd be slightly sharper than i wanted. but i suppose my EQ pedals could sort that out...

either way, if i were to get one, it'd be the white one with the bigsby style bridge.



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but at £409 is it REALLY that much better than any of the others i've linked to that are sub £400?
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#5
I just got a dot studio and love it. very versital even with just a single volume and tone control.
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I just got a dot studio and love it. very versital even with just a single volume and tone control.

yeh i was looking at the dot studios, then decided i can afford a 'proper' dot and a few other alternatives so was hoping someone could shed some light on what's a good alternative really.
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#7
The Wildkat and it's brother guitar the Alleykat are fantastic guitars. Rare as hell around here but if you've got one near you to try it you should give it a shot.

For the sound of that video, the Alleykat would actually probably be better. The Wildkat uses P90s and those might be a little to thin.
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The Wildkat and it's brother guitar the Alleykat are fantastic guitars. Rare as hell around here but if you've got one near you to try it you should give it a shot.

For the sound of that video, the Alleykat would actually probably be better. The Wildkat uses P90s and those might be a little to thin.

ah yeh at first glance i thought they were HB's, ONLY just noticed they're p90's, scratch that off the list then, also just had a search for an alleykat and can't find one anywhere, not even ebay! =|
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either way, if i were to get one, it'd be the white one with the bigsby style bridge.


duh fuck you talkin' 'bout, boy?
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#11
The Hofner Verythin CT is quite nice. I tried one a few days ago and I am thinking on buying one myself.
#12
I like my Epi Broadway. Found used with HSC for $300. MIK in 1998.
I saw a new one yesterday (chinese) and the natural finish just looked washed out compared to this nice orange-ish color.
Quality is good, Plays and sounds amazing.
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Quote by Mars Rover
I like my Epi Broadway. Found used with HSC for $300. MIK in 1998.
I saw a new one yesterday (chinese) and the natural finish just looked washed out compared to this nice orange-ish color.
Quality is good, Plays and sounds amazing.

not bad, there's far too many to choose from hence why i made this thread

i'm getting a major headache deciding which one to get...

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#14


If I lived closer I'd let you play it... Awesome Instrument. I've owned Epi Sheratons, and Dots... I Like this one the best...

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If I lived closer I'd let you play it... Awesome Instrument. I've owned Epi Sheratons, and Dots... I Like this one the best...

Epiphone P-93, Riviera LTD Edition.

don't get me wrong, that is a GORGEOUS thing, call me picky, but i'm after 2 humbuckers not 3 p90's xD
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#16
I have an AF75 (minus the bigsby, i hate bigsbys more than floyds, and I hate floyds >.<, it's a great guitar even completely stock and the stock pups give it plenty of "spunk", the trebles can be a little unruly with the tone up full.

The shape is comfy as long as you're stood up but all the semis are too fat in the lower bout for sitting down in my experience. Holds it's tune great, plays really well, sounds good, can try get you some sound samples if you want, will need to get hold of a mini desk I can run into my pc though which could be about a week
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#17
You've already got a long list and a ton more recommendations. But there are a couple others I think of.

Gretsch
PRS
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#18
don't think the £350 budget will cover PRS or Gretsch :p
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#19
I am myself looking to buy a hollowbody, the Casino is the one most appealing to me, but I have gas for this Epiphone Emperor Joe Pass II


I mostly play indie though and i have never seen a indieband with a larger jazz box?
Anyways you should try an Epiphone and see if you like it!
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#20
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don't think the £350 budget will cover PRS or Gretsch :p

Well, some Gretsch's are quite affordable. Check this one out: http://www.guitarcenter.com/Gretsch-Guitars-G5120-Electromatic-Hollowbody-Electric-Guitar-103867990-i1166376.gc I'll be honest, I'm not the best at conversion rates from pounds to dollars, but I think you should be in the range for one -- at least on the used market.

And I was thinking of the PRS SE Hollowbodies -- they're quite exceptional. Again, can't comment on the exchange rate, but these are really awesome: http://www.guitarcenter.com/PRS-SE-Custom-Semi-Hollow-Electric-Guitar-107218687-i1697792.gc
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#21
Quote by Dempsey68
don't get me wrong, that is a GORGEOUS thing, call me picky, but i'm after 2 humbuckers not 3 p90's xD


Understandable... then I'd go with the Sheraton II.. Maple body and neck, rosewood Fretboard.... Only 2 humbuckers... *sigh* Real solid guitar for the money...

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Understandable... then I'd go with the Sheraton II.. Maple body and neck, rosewood Fretboard.... Only 2 humbuckers... *sigh* Real solid guitar for the money...

I'm looking for another now.. (shhhhh don't tell my wife.... )

deal!

just don't tell my girlfriend i'm after another guitar...
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#23
Tbh, I think wives and girlfriends just assume we're after new guitars at any given moment >.< I know my wife knows I'm always chasing after a new axe
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#24
Whatever guitar you go for, check the soundblock. I phone-ordered a Dot, and it had a hole in the soundblock. Probably didnt influence the sound very much, but I hated knowing I had a hole in my guitar.
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#25
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Whatever guitar you go for, check the soundblock. I phone-ordered a Dot, and it had a hole in the soundblock. Probably didnt influence the sound very much, but I hated knowing I had a hole in my guitar.

soundblock?????? /noobmoment
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soundblock?????? /noobmoment


The big piece of wood running down the centre of the guitar. What the pickups, bridge, etc., are drilled into. Look into the F-hole at an angle to check out the soundblock.
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#27
Marketing *****s that they are, I'm surprised that Gibson has not offered up a Ted Nugent signature Byrdland. The short scale 23-1/2" scale, skinny neck is what really makes it a Byrdland but who pays 8 grand (new) for that?

I'd like to see an affordable Epiphone version only with standard 24-3/4" scale and more of a standard width and depth neck, florentine and all other specs Byrdland. Make it look like Ted's, give it his specs but leave his signature off of it - and that would be a cool guitar.
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Marketing *****s that they are, I'm surprised that Gibson has not offered up a Ted Nugent signature Byrdland. The short scale 23-1/2" scale, skinny neck is what really makes it a Byrdland but who pays 8 grand (new) for that?

I'd like to see an affordable Epiphone version only with standard 24-3/4" scale and more of a standard width and depth neck, florentine and all other specs Byrdland. Make it look like Ted's, give it his specs but leave his signature off of it - and that would be a cool guitar.

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The big piece of wood running down the centre of the guitar. What the pickups, bridge, etc., are drilled into. Look into the F-hole at an angle to check out the soundblock.

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

cheers xD
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#30
If you're willing to get a fret job with the saved money, Epiphone Dot Studio.
I got it thinking "Oh, cheap guitar with a good sized neck, I'll just change the pickups maybe". I stand corrected. The pickups are better than any Ibanez I've played, and it's satin finish so the neck is nice and smoooth. The whole thing is mahogany, which I love the look of, dunno if you do :P , and it comes in a few finishes...
I gig with it 4 out of 5 times compared to my Ibanez 540s.
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#31
You probably hear this all the time, but you need to go and TRY these guitars.. dont just buy them because people tell you they're good, dont forget everyone has different hand sizes, tastes and needs which define what guitars they like and don't like.

I've been in your position before, and i've learnr that playing them is invaluable knowledge for deciding which guitar to get.


Okay at first i didnt fully read your initial post.. I'm a huge john mayer fan myself, love the song you posted.

Firstly, he's using three amps.. one which retails at 8k and another that doesnt even retail it's that exclusive. He's also playing a guitar they don't even make anymore. I understand you wanna sound like John, he's amazing.. but give up the chase. Do you wanna be a professional guitarist or a part of a john mayer cover band? Don't just buy a guitar to sound like John does in ONE song. You're spending a lot of money for something you wont achieve.

Sorry if i'm ranting but im just trying to help.
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#32
Quote by Dempsey68
see i like the look of the AF75's but being ibanez i wasn't sure about the whole pickup set-up. like they'd be slightly sharper than i wanted.

The af75 pickups are quite mellow, they were designed for jazz and blues
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