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#1
Hey guys,

Well I finally have enough money to buy my "dream guitar".
I've wanted this guitar ever since I started playing guitar (16 years ago).
It has everything! Beauty, Tone, Everything!It can play any type of music that I play, and because of the lousiness pickups it can go everywhere from Rock to classical to thrash metal and blues.
I have watched and played on this guitar in my local store and I love it! but it always used to cost me to much.
But now I have the money but there's only one problem... It doesn't have a floyd rose.
Now most of you probably say that it isn't necessary but for me it is cus about 90% of the stuff I play has a whamy bar in it (Van Halen, ZZ Top, ETC...).
I thought about replacing the bridge but thats complicated and imagine a Les paul with a floyd

I seriously want this guitar, but what should I do???

Please Help!
Thanks

this is the link to the guitar:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Gibson-Les-Paul-Custom-Guitar-Black-Beauty-NOS-2010-New-/180767339301?pt=Guitar&hash=item2a1692b325#ht_720wt_1270
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#5
Or you could get a Bigsby.
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#6
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Or just get a guitar that actually fits your needs (Jackson SL2H, Suhr Modern, etc). A Les Paul with a Floyd is heresy!


Yeah and I think that Les Paul looks really stupid with a Floyd Rose bridge...
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#7
Van Halen on a Bigsby?
Somehow less practical than Van Halen on a stoptail.

A bigsby is a non-solution here. The LP Axcess is a good choice. Another more affordable option would be an LTD EC-1000 with the Floyd, or, if you can find one, an Eclipse II FR.
#8
You can go carvin

You can buy a few different models of LP that the gibson custom shop makes, but for the most part theyre hard to come by and cost >3500$

Other than that maybe PRS? BTBAM have a cu24 with a floyd. And PRS does some nice single cuts... But thatll prolly be even more expensive than gibson

Look into things like a stetsbar for a hardtail Lp?
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#9
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Van Halen on a Bigsby?
Somehow less practical than Van Halen on a stoptail.

A bigsby is a non-solution here. The LP Axcess is a good choice. Another more affordable option would be an LTD EC-1000 with the Floyd, or, if you can find one, an Eclipse II FR.


^ Oh I'm aware of that. But if your "dream guitar" is a Black Beauty but you want to play Van Halen, you might as well have said that your dream vehicle is a tank and you want to compete in the Indy 500.

It's just not ideal. Now if he wanted to get something BESIDES a black beauty, (like a Les Paul Axcess) then that's fine. While still not ideal for Van Halen, it CAN do it.

But it's not a Black Beauty. What I basically meant is that "you should accept that a Black Beauty is what it is, and get a Bigsby if you want a bit of tremolo."
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#10
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Or you could get a Bigsby.


A Bigsby isn't going to get anywhere near. You can get the same effect as a bigsby with a wide vibrato on your fretting hand.
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#11
I suppose. If you're locked into a Black Beauty, though, it doesn't do you any more good to have a Bigsby if what you really need is a Floyd.

What I think we're both illustrating is that either bridge option is totally impractical for the job. I was just pointing out that a Bigsby is somehow less practical, because it has the added drawback of suggesting to a person who might not be familiar with them that it might be a viable option here.


At least it's not a Gretsch hollowbody or something.
#12
get teh les paul and also get a charvel pro mod or something like that that's not silly money?

2 guitars are better than 1
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#13
Dude for the amount of money your gonna pay for a Standard Axcess Les Paul you could have a Suhr, Bernie Rico, Zachary. Endless list of Much better guitars.

No Les Paul is worth 3,000 imo
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A Bigsby isn't going to get anywhere near. You can get the same effect as a bigsby with a wide vibrato on your fretting hand.


A Bigsby isn't a Floyd Rose, but it's better than that...
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Dude for the amount of money your gonna pay for a Standard Axcess Les Paul you could have a Suhr, Bernie Rico, Zachary. Endless list of Much better guitars.

No Les Paul is worth 3,000 imo

The point about getting a guitar from a better maker is valid, but "No Les Paul is worth 3,000 imo" just means you don't like Les Pauls.
#16
guys, wake the hell up.




i know, crazy right?

a lot of evh stuff sounds spot on, on my les paul.


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No Les Paul is worth 3,000 imo

cool opinion bro.
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#17
Wait wait wait wait wait! Before you decide to do anything crazy like buy a Jackson or Ibanez pointy, you could get a Stetsbar.
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#18
Sure, but Eddie can afford a whole bunch of great guitars. If this is going to be his #1 and he really needs a good trem, he's got to have one.

I mean, there's a pickaxe in that second picture but you wouldn't really want that to be your only guitar just because Eddie's got one.

Edit: Stetsbars are complete crap. Wouldn't ever suggest one, especially for heavy use.
#19
ZZ Top uses a lot of whammy bar action? hate to say it but if you play mainly music with a trem a LP doesn't seem like a "dream guitar" but that's just me. another option would be to look for a LP with a kahler trem. it was an option in the late 80s ( i had one)
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Sure, but Eddie can afford a whole bunch of great guitars. If this is going to be his #1 and he really needs a good trem, he's got to have one.

from what i've read everywhere he only records with a 6 point strat trem off of a 70's strat.

there really isn't any crazy bombs from the first 3 releases that you can't do on a strat or prs vintage style trem.



i realize you didn't say floyd, but there seems to be a belief that a floyd is what's needed. it's not.

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ZZ Top uses a lot of whammy bar action? <edited> another option would be to look for a LP with a kahler trem. it was an option in the late 80s ( i had one)

+ all of this.
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#22
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from what i've read everywhere he only records with a 6 point strat trem off of a 70's strat.

there really isn't any crazy bombs from the first 3 releases that you can't do on a strat or prs vintage style trem.



i realize you didn't say floyd, but there seems to be a belief that a floyd is what's needed. it's not.

Agreed. Jeff Beck uses the 6-point trem too, and does just fine with it, despite beating it like a rented mule every few bars. Problem is there's not really a lot of options between a Bigsby and a Floyd on most Pauls, unless you're going to get a PRS SC.


Now that I think of it, a PRS SC with the stock trem is probably exactly the right thing here. Why am I not surprised that as soon as you show up a PRS starts to make the most sense?
#23
funny how it makes sense.

that said, i own a fender, a gibson and a PRS. so not many people can call me a fanboi of anything anymore.
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#25
i dunno, i mean for the really crazy stuff i just prefer a floyd
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#27
If your buying a Gibson, why not just have someone build you a LP with a trem? They're both

It's funny, I wanted to write AN el pee. Did not.

Even better, you like Van Halen, get an old Destroyer. Freaking wicked guitars, though I think it's kind of a love or hate thing. They're getting rarer and going up in value, not a bad financial decision really.
#30
DUDE. GO CARVIN.

Realistically you can have the pearl block inlarys, gold hardware black paint and all(not 100% sure on the binding) but you can haev it essentially blak beauty spec with a floyd stock
#31
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DUDE. GO CARVIN.

Realistically you can have the pearl block inlarys, gold hardware black paint and all(not 100% sure on the binding) but you can haev it essentially blak beauty spec with a floyd stock

Picture this but with a Floyd.

Like this one.


I used the custom builder on their site and made a CS3, black with gold hardware and a Floyd. Total price $1119
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#32
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girly hair cut, with a gibby and keyboards, in a ballet room. Not metal.

good.

he actually looks pretty sad in that pic. maybe he was learning mustang sally and couldn't get the vibe down.

dude: eddie just play the C progression
eddie: when do i twiddly twiddly twiddly
dude: you don't.
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#33
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Dude for the amount of money your gonna pay for a Standard Axcess Les Paul you could have a Suhr, Bernie Rico, Zachary. Endless list of Much better guitars.

No Les Paul is worth 3,000 imo


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#34
just to let you know (idk if anyone mentioned too lazy to read through)

but the routing for the floyd in a floyd equiped les paul would make the tone suffer a lot. the are where the wood is routed is in a crucial tone-spot.
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Ever considered an Agile (black) with Floyd rose? These are a nice guitar for the price. Its not a Gibby LP, but it doesnt look like the LP will fit your spec list.

Check it out

http://www.rondomusic.com/al2000floyd.html


if hes ready to drop $3k on a les paul why would he go for the mid range agile -_-

Sorry for double post -_-
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if hes ready to drop $3k on a les paul why would he go for the mid range agile -_-

Sorry for double post -_-


Because whats the point of dropping 3k on any guitar if it doesn't have what you want.

Don't underestimate Agile on price alone. They sound and play like a guitar worth much more.
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Because whats the point of dropping 3k on any guitar if it doesn't have what you want.

Don't underestimate Agile on price alone. They sound and play like a guitar worth much more.


im gonna go out on a limb here and say it still doesnt hold up to a gibson custom, but thats just me
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Because whats the point of dropping 3k on any guitar if it doesn't have what you want.

Don't underestimate Agile on price alone. They sound and play like a guitar worth much more.


Ya, I'm gonna sell my LP Custom and buy an Agile. Totally overpaid for a piece of garbage.
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Quote by maddnotez
Dude for the amount of money your gonna pay for a Standard Axcess Les Paul you could have a Suhr, Bernie Rico, Zachary. Endless list of Much better guitars.

No Les Paul is worth 3,000 imo

I could not agree more. Get something special and unique for your money.


Or, buy your dream guitar and fit a Stetsbar.

#40
So basically, what you're saying is your dream guitar ISN'T your dream guitar.

It has everything! Beauty, Tone, Everything!It can play any type of music that I play,



Well, apparently not.

90% of the stuff I play has a whamy bar in it (Van Halen, ZZ Top, ETC...).


If you're just going to to dive bombs... Get a whammy.

Don't buy a wonderful LP and wish you had a wolfgang or a strat. My recommendation for a great guitar for your styles is a Suhr with a floyd. BTW, Gibbons' favorite guitar was an LP. This is just another case of wanting something you don't need.
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