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#1
How'ya Doin Ya'll... My mates have been sayin' that if you say a number off keywords during a phone call, (terrorist, bomb, al qaeda, bin laden, 9/11)......That the FBI/CIA listen in to your call....

TRUE or FALSE?

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#4
True, it's called the Carnivore program (echelon past the borders of the US).
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#5
They have no right to. I doubt it's true.
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#6
I have heard, with NO verification, that they only do that with international calls to certain regions of the world. I'm sure if they wanted to, they could listen to us all, but, for the most part, that would be pretty boring, "Yea, i'll get some eggs too, do we have milk?".
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#7
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I have heard, with NO verification, that they only do that with international calls to certain regions of the world. I'm sure if they wanted to, they could listen to us all, but, for the most part, that would be pretty boring, "Yea, i'll get some eggs too, do we have milk?".


The whole point is that only calls that contain certain words are flagged. If you say a word like "terrorism" or "bomb" then someone checks it out. This goes for e-mails aswell.
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#8
Nah, News of the World got in there first.

EDIT: That's one massive task though if it were true. I mean, it's not gunna be 25 people a day, it's gunna be tens of thousands. A day. Even for a computer to do that, they're still gunna have to investigate that further themselves and that's gotta be several thousand still. Just seems like a mammoth task to me.
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#9
True, been around for years now.
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#10
they probably do in international calls, and it would actually be people listening in. Probably just some algorithm that counts certain words and accesses the risk. Kinda of like how google searches are based on words and location. It's just application of linear algebra in programming. They may even do it on intranational calls, just the risk is lower and probably different words have different values
#11
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FBI FACT...

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#13
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They have no right to. I doubt it's true.


In fact they do have very cogent rights (some in theory, most in practice) to do so.

Analogy: Being subjected to checks at the airport.
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#14
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The whole point is that only calls that contain certain words are flagged. If you say a word like "terrorism" or "bomb" then someone checks it out. This goes for e-mails aswell.


Right, but it would be entirely too difficult to listen to them all, or monitor every email, so they focus their efforts on the areas they are most likely to get results from.

If the listening program flags a certain number of keywords, it saves the audio file and forwards to a real person who then determines if the calls are terrorist related.
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#16
If it is true. Then the FBI are listening to the wrong calls. How many Terrorists do you think call up their Terrorist buddies like
"Hey Terrorist buddy, you still up for bombing the statue of liberty tomorrow? We got our big bombs sorted, and we're all gonna be like. BOOM BOOM POW on those yanky doodle's faces! It'll be like 9/11 all over again dude! Anyways hit me back. Bin Laden owwwwt!"
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Right, but it would be entirely too difficult to listen to them all, or monitor every email, so they focus their efforts on the areas they are most likely to get results from.

If the listening program flags a certain number of keywords, it saves the audio file and forwards to a real person who then determines if the calls are terrorist related.



This.

Exactly what I was trying to articulate.
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I am curious about how they scan the web though. Do you think this thread will get flagged, it has a ton of the words in it, and will there be some low level fed sitting at a desk reading this thread on Monday?
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#23
True, its in the Patriot act.....

Edit:Beaten to it.........
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#25
I'm pretty sure this thread will draw more attention to you than you saying one of those words on the phone. I had an International Relations teacher who had the FBI knock on his door once. He had checked some books out from the library on terrorism so he could answer his class's questions and the FBI took notice.
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#26
Is it cool for me to inb4 zoot? I really don't know him that well but every time something like this pops up people seem to inb4 him because he is a conspiracy nut?

anyways, I'll do it and look cool

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#28
Well, how would they know you said that? They would have already been listening to your call in the first place.
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#29
ACLU.org has a lot more on bullshit that goes on/tries to go on. Used it for many of my sources in a speech on wiretapping earlier fall semester
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#30
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I am curious about how they scan the web though. Do you think this thread will get flagged, it has a ton of the words in it, and will there be some low level fed sitting at a desk reading this thread on Monday?

I hope not because they could catch me for having a pound of bomb ass weed. I rank it 9/11. It's some afghan kush, the kind of weed bin laden himself would smoke.

Edit: to the dude who asked how would they know if a keyword was said. Idk man good question. Computer recognization would be hard with thick accents. Maybe a monkey trained to listen to keyw
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I'm pretty sure this thread will draw more attention to you than you saying one of those words on the phone. I had an International Relations teacher who had the FBI knock on his door once. He had checked some books out from the library on terrorism so he could answer his class's questions and the FBI took notice.


Are you serious?

That's absolutely rediculous. That sounds like something out of nazi germany.
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I am curious about how they scan the web though. Do you think this thread will get flagged, it has a ton of the words in it, and will there be some low level fed sitting at a desk reading this thread on Monday?

It's all true man! Everything you've heard is true. They're screening our calls and web searchs, putting mind control drugs in the water supply, watching your house man. No where is safe. Run now before they catch up to you!


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#33
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(terrorist, bomb, al qaeda, bin laden, 9/11)

I hope not because they could catch me for having a pound of bomb ass weed. I rank it 9/11. It's some afghan kush, the kind of weed bin laden himself would smoke.

Edit: to the dude who asked how would they know if a keyword was said. Idk man good question. Computer recognization would be hard with thick accents. Maybe a monkey trained to listen to keywords?


I lol'ed. Also, I'm attempting to attract attention by quoting even more possibly detectable words.
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I am curious about how they scan the web though. Do you think this thread will get flagged, it has a ton of the words in it, and will there be some low level fed sitting at a desk reading this thread on Monday?

"damn terrorist guitar playing kids! lets monitor them. they seem more suspicious than Osama."

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that sucks. i can't wait for all this to be over.
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#36
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I lol'ed. Also, I'm attempting to attract attention by quoting even more possibly detectable words.

Make a bunch of fake yahoo id's. And send a bunch of emails talking about forming a terrorist group and plan out a fake white house bombing.
#37
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"damn terrorist guitar playing kids! lets monitor them. they seem more suspicious than Osama."




Considering he's dead, we probably do.
#39
My girlfriend and I have jokes regarding this.

And by that I mean I text her corny lovethings with words like "BOMB" and "SARIN GAS" interspersed. Got the idea from this asofterworld comic.

Stuff like "I BOMB love SARIN GAS you so INFIDEL RETRIBUTION JIHAD fucking much SEATTLE CAR BOMB."
#40
Ah, the evil guv'ment. OUT TO GETCHA WITH YA'LLS' DELUSIONS OF GRANDEUR AND PARANOIA
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