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What do you think they would say if you could send a piece of actual (1960-2010) music back to the past so they could listen to it?
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They'd probably start grindin' up on each other and shit.
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It would be completely alien to them. I bet if I heard music from 2400 I'd be a little, well, scared.
#4
I think the more interesting question here is, if you could send back 1 album, which, and why? To freak them out? To annoy them? To inspire them?

EDIT: I would maybe send back some Hans Zimmer soundtrack. Show them that there would still be orchestral music, but that people would find new ways to use an orchestra.
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I'd send them Green Day, just to show them what all their hard work has accomplished (nothing).
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#10
Probably something like this, except with violins and stuff.
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What do you think they would say if you could send a piece of actual (1960-2010) music back to the past so they could listen to it?

Implying pre-1960s isn't real music?

Anyways I would probably show them some pop song demonstrating what we can do with technology now, then probably some Beatles song to show what the most popular band of all time sounds like.
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#12
They would probably think it's simple and watered down.
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If we were to send them straight up sheet music, I would have to believe a lot of metal would entice their interests. They would probably look at jazz all like "what the fuck is this shit?".
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I think the more interesting question here is, if you could send back 1 album, which, and why? To freak them out? To annoy them? To inspire them?

EDIT: I would maybe send back some Hans Zimmer soundtrack. Show them that there would still be orchestral music, but that people would find new ways to use an orchestra.

"I see, in the future they rely on orchestral percussion and excessive brass to make epic-sounding music?"
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Implying pre-1960s isn't real music?

TS is from mexico, which I guess means that spanish is his first language. In spanish, "actual" can also mean "current".

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probably that it was the work of the devil. a lot of them atleast.
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"I see, in the future they rely on orchestral percussion and excessive brass to make epic-sounding music?"

TS is from mexico, which I guess means that spanish is his first language. In spanish, "actual" can also mean "current".



That's right! I totally meant what you said. Being a jazz man, I would never say music created before 1960 isn't real music!

:EDIT: Besides, isn't the word 'actual' some kind of synonym for 'current'? When talking about date and time.
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That's right! I totally meant what you said. Being a jazz man, I would never say music created before 1960 isn't real music!

:EDIT: Besides, isn't the word 'actual' some kind of synonym for 'current'? When talking about date and time.

It sort of is, but most people tend to interpret it as "real" or "proper" or whatever, as you've seen
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this thread sucks

...modes and scales are still useless.


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#21
I imagine the response would be a mixture of:

"I say, hast thou no shame at all?"
"What instrument is making most of these sounds!?"

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Agreed.

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Even though none of that actually sounds anything like 'modern music' on the whole...


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If we were to send them straight up sheet music, I would have to believe a lot of metal would entice their interests. They would probably look at jazz all like "what the fuck is this shit?".

I think they would be more like, "Parallel fifths! EVERYWHERE!"
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Bach was a massive troll. He used parallel 5ths

But were they ERRYWARE!?
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But were they ERRYWARE!?

In a few works he's using parallel 5ths and 4ths. Art of Fugue for example has many parallel 5ths, as well as modality, to evoke older music. It's interesting that in one of his last works, he went back in time rather than forward (although it's both). Also, parallel 5ths used in rock/metal guitar parts aren't really parallel 5ths. The 5ths just re-enforce the overtones of the root to give it a more powerful sound. Even in rock, real (contrapuntal) parallel 5ths sound out of place.

...modes and scales are still useless.


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In a few works he's using parallel 5ths and 4ths. Art of Fugue for example has many parallel 5ths, as well as modality, to evoke older music. It's interesting that in one of his last works, he went back in time rather than forward (although it's both). Also, parallel 5ths used in rock/metal guitar parts aren't really parallel 5ths. The 5ths just re-enforce the overtones of the root to give it a more powerful sound. Even in rock, real (contrapuntal) parallel 5ths sound out of place.

Ah, so the purposes are different.
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They'd shit their pants in disappointment and anguish, then give up composing and won't write any of the things that we today base our music on, so by doing this you'd have completely changed the history of music and ruining what we have today (which we know and love).


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In a few works he's using parallel 5ths and 4ths. Art of Fugue for example has many parallel 5ths, as well as modality, to evoke older music. It's interesting that in one of his last works, he went back in time rather than forward (although it's both). Also, parallel 5ths used in rock/metal guitar parts aren't really parallel 5ths. The 5ths just re-enforce the overtones of the root to give it a more powerful sound. Even in rock, real (contrapuntal) parallel 5ths sound out of place.

How could a rock band do true parallel fifths then?

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I think they would be more like, "Parallel fifths! EVERYWHERE!"



I was thinking along the lines of technical bands like Between the Buried and Me, Necrophagist, Opeth, The Human Abstract, Dillinger Escape Plan. Bands who do more than just power chords
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How could a rock band do true parallel fifths then?
Between fundamental points of melodic lines, eg vocal to bass. A pair of consecutive 5ths occasionally occurs here but not more than that.


I was thinking along the lines of technical bands like Between the Buried and Me, Necrophagist, Opeth, The Human Abstract, Dillinger Escape Plan. Bands who do more than just power chords
Composers might find some aspects of textures and rhythms in rock music to be interesting if we're talking before its existence, but ultimately, I think they would be disappointed with how disorganized any of this music is. It has nothing to do with the conventions of harmonic theory.

...modes and scales are still useless.


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Are there any rock/metal bands you know of that follow those conventions?
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Are there any rock/metal bands you know of that follow those conventions?

What I meant by that is that the conventions of harmonic theory isn't that important. Composers wouldn't be trying to gauge rock music against the same harmonic conventions used in classical. So even if there were parallel 5ths, it wouldn't be something to be contentious about.

...modes and scales are still useless.


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I was thinking along the lines of technical bands like Between the Buried and Me, Necrophagist, Opeth, The Human Abstract, Dillinger Escape Plan. Bands who do more than just power chords

I would agree. I play a lot of Protest the Hero songs on piano because it sounds so much like classical music.
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Oh, I reread your post, I gotcha.
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