#1
The Rythym in question is the breakdown section of "Berzerker" by After The Burial. It kicks in at bar 77.

I don't know what, but the timing of the riff itself is confusing, but the fact that the drums are playing quarter note downbeats on the china is throwing me off even more. Makes me feel like i'm playing a polyrythym. Any tips on keeping time during this?


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#2
I remember Al Di Meola talking about how amazing it makes a guitarist to be able to have those weird rythms in their head and not be chained to the standard metronome, then demonstrating one of his weird phrases perfectly executed with perfect timing.. i also remember him saying it is easier for some races to just have it down than others.. saying asians are not likely to get it XD..

I however dont remember him talking about any specific excercises for it..
try searching around, i dont know why i always think of http://pic.paintinghere.com/Salvador%20Dali/big/clock%20melting%20clocks.jpg

when i think about Al Di Meola..

edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZ4FZ80Qdd8
Last edited by Slashiepie at Dec 12, 2011,
#3
That's a cool rhythm. You could think of it as a polyrhythm, yes. It's very Meshuggah-like.

Hmm, what can I suggest... Just listen to the guitar and memorise how it goes. Break it down into sections. That's all you can do. I'll try and break it down for you. S = sixteenth note, E = eight note, and . = a dotted note. A note in () means a rest.

It's actually a very simple four-bar pattern that repeats itself four times, and there are two simple patterns within it. On the last two repeats of that four-bar pattern though, it's slightly altered. It goes:

E. E E E E (S)
E. E E S
E. E E E E S
E. E E S

That's what the main pattern is, and it repeats itself within those four bars. To complete the full four bars, it then goes:

E. E E E E (S)
E. E E S
E. S

And that's the entire four-bar pattern that it follows for the first eight bars. You play the eighth notes staccato. But when you get to the last eight bars where it changes, those eighth notes should sound for their entire duration, and the (S) just becomes an S instead. So the entire rhythmic pattern for those sixteen bars is:

E. E E E E (S)
E. E E S
E. E E E E S
E. E E S
E. E E E E (S)
E. E E S
E. S
^ two times
---
E. E E E E S
E. E E S
E. E E E E S
E. E E S
E. E E E E S
E. E E S
E. S
^ two times


If that makes sense to you. It took me one listen to memorise the rhythm, but about ten-fifteen minutes to type this all out. In time you'll learn to recognise rhythmic patterns within other patterns and to get a feel for them. Study some of Meshuggah's music... it worked for me!


Tl;dr: feel the groove and get locked in it.
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#4
The most important thing is having the quarter note pulse absolutely rock solid.

Then it's a matter of taking the pattern in bitesize chunks and getting it solid. I would loop it in something like Bestpractice or Amazing Slow Downer.