#1
I'm coming here because I do not know too much about amps, and I'm hoping I can have help with picking an amp that would be good for heavy music (Metal and Hardcore). I am looking to spend around $300, so thanks if you can help me.

EDIT:
One more question, I am not too sure really on what the difference is between a cabinet, combo amp, or just an amp. Also, do you really need an amp head to go with a cabinet or not? Thanks.

EDIT:
A few people said that if I could save up to $400-$500 then a lot more options would open up, so I guess I'd ask what other things would be out there for the extra $100-$200.
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#2
$300, look at line6, they may have a bad rep(I don't know why, for heavy music they kick ass) but they are excellent amps. The spider series is what you're looking for, the newer the better and if you can buy second hand, do it. They drop in price quickly but they are pretty bulletproof and you will be happy with the sound.
Happy shopping.
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Quote by ShaneCallaghan
$300, look at line6, they may have a bad rep(I don't know why, for heavy music they kick ass) but they are excellent amps. The spider series is what you're looking for, the newer the better and if you can buy second hand, do it. They drop in price quickly but they are pretty bulletproof and you will be happy with the sound.
Happy shopping.

DO NOT LISTEN TO THIS!

If you buy a Spider you will be disappointed eventually with the tone, or you don't have an ear for good tone.

For that budget you would probably have to find some extremely used amps or you would have to take a look at the Peavey Vypyr series.
#4
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DO NOT LISTEN TO THIS!

If you buy a Spider you will be disappointed eventually with the tone, or you don't have an ear for good tone.

For that budget you would probably have to find some extremely used amps or you would have to take a look at the Peavey Vypyr series.


But for 300 quid, he's not really looking at getting a hughes and kettner so i'd say yeah, either a spider or a peavy vypyr. I actually forgot about the Vypyr, good recommendation. Kudos.
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#6
Look for a used Vypyr tube 60. Maybe even a used Peavey triumph or ultra. Used Bugera 6260/333 combo
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Vypyr is overrated


Not really. None of the other modelers can even come close to touching how versatile/ how many options/ how customizable the Vypyr is. Not to mention that it just flat out sounds good for how much it costs.

TS: The Vypyr will be able to handle what you want with ease. If you want something all tube, you can probably find a Bugera on ebay.

EDIT: Don't forget that you can always wait/save up. If you could get around $400-500, some real options would open up to you (in the form of Peavey 5150/6505 combos)
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#8
The first guy is right go with the spider, I've heard very experienced audio geeks shower praise all over the spider, for 300 you aren't going to come close to beating it. I would suggest getting a combo with 12in speakers though a kid I know had one with 10's and they sucked. Sure eventually your ears will grow out of the digital fizz a spider produces but its hardly noticeable for newbs.
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Quote by Offworld92
Not really. None of the other modelers can even come close to touching how versatile/ how many options/ how customizable the Vypyr is. Not to mention that it just flat out sounds good for how much it costs.

TS: The Vypyr will be able to handle what you want with ease. If you want something all tube, you can probably find a Bugera on ebay.

EDIT: Don't forget that you can always wait/save up. If you could get around $400-500, some real options would open up to you (in the form of Peavey 5150/6505 combos)


Listen to this guy. He's right, I've used the Line Six Spiders at practises and gigs and once you turn them up they sound digital and nasally. I wouldn't touch one with a ten foot barge pole.
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#10
Do yourself a favor and ignore anything in the posts that are praising the Spider series of amps by Line 6. Get a Peavey Vypyr, or save up some more money and get yourself a tube amp that will last you MUCH longer in your music career than any modeling amp will.
#11
Seriosuly ignore them..

DO NOT get spider. The only Line 6 worth a shit is the HD series or even a Vetta.

For $300 I would buy a used Ampeg VH-140C, bugera 6262, or if you get real lucky might be able to find a used 5150 but those are hard to find for $300


I have never played one but I hear with a good boost the Jet City 333 can do some metal as long as its not too high gain and they are relatively cheap.


Is this going to be for gigging? Bedroom practice?

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#12
Quote by Offworld92
Not really. None of the other modelers can even come close to touching how versatile/ how many options/ how customizable the Vypyr is. Not to mention that it just flat out sounds good for how much it costs.

TS: The Vypyr will be able to handle what you want with ease. If you want something all tube, you can probably find a Bugera on ebay.

EDIT: Don't forget that you can always wait/save up. If you could get around $400-500, some real options would open up to you (in the form of Peavey 5150/6505 combos)


The only good thong ive heard from a vypyr is the 6505 sim, but still, i think it gets too much praise for what it is.

I agreete spider is not the best option and that for a bit more theres much better but doesnt mean the vypyr is his best choice as of now
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Sure eventually your ears will grow out of the digital fizz a spider produces but its hardly noticeable for newbs.



He never said he was a noob. He said he doesn't know a lot about amplifiers...

Try to avoid the spider. Many people have made good suggestions if you want to go used.
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#15
Vypyr>Spider...


Beyond that, at the $300 price point that's your best option.
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#16
Spiders should only be touched by beginners and nobody else. For $300 a Vypyr would be your best bet.
#17
Quote by maddnotez
Seriosuly ignore them..

DO NOT get spider. The only Line 6 worth a shit is the HD series or even a Vetta.

For $300 I would buy a used Ampeg VH-140C, bugera 6262, or if you get real lucky might be able to find a used 5150 but those are hard to find for $300


I have never played one but I hear with a good boost the Jet City 333 can do some metal as long as its not too high gain and they are relatively cheap.


Is this going to be for gigging? Bedroom practice?

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Currently I have a Line 6 Spider IV 15, which has the 8" speaker. As of right now it'd only be for practicing in my house (which my current spider is fine for) but I'm working on starting a band, so I may be doing some gigging.
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Quote by Offworld92
If you could get around $400-500, some real options would open up to you.

This is the right thing to do in the situation... But I understand if that's not an option. Anyone saying Spiders are decent likely owns one. Misery loves company.
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#20
For $500 used, you should be able to find a used Peavey 5150 2x12 combo, JSX combo
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#21
To your other edit, a combo amp is one where the head and speaker are built together...like say a Peavey Vypyr 75w. The cabinet is just the speaker(s). if someone says a 2x12 cab or a 4x12 cabinet, it would mean a cab with 2 12" speakers or 4 12" speakers. The head is the amp itself, and it can't be used alone, meaning you have to have a cabinet to produce sound. Run a head by itself and you can seriously damage it. Hope that gives you a basic idea.
#22
I was really thinking about getting the jet city half stack and maybe a metal muff. would that work out for a practice amp and jamming a bit?
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#23
Quote by romeozdistress
I was really thinking about getting the jet city half stack and maybe a metal muff. would that work out for a practice amp and jamming a bit?


Yeah, but I don't see the point of the Metal Muff. The Jet City will get heavy enough. If you need a boost, grab something like a Tubescreamer, an EQ, or some other pedal that offers a boost rather than all-out distortion.
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I was really thinking about getting the jet city half stack and maybe a metal muff. would that work out for a practice amp and jamming a bit?
Which Jet City? If you wish to do any form of metal for under $500 than the JCA5012c is the only Jet City model that will work for that price.
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#26
Blackstar HT-1 is another one i was looking at, i just want some new gear, and i figure I can improve my practice amp. Im just a beginner. I wont be gigging, maybe just jamming a little.
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#27
$300? flextone
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#30
Quote by ShaneCallaghan
$300, look at line6, they may have a bad rep(I don't know why, for heavy music they kick ass) but they are excellent amps. The spider series is what you're looking for, the newer the better and if you can buy second hand, do it. They drop in price quickly but they are pretty bulletproof and you will be happy with the sound.
Happy shopping.

No. The spider is fizzy, thin, digital sounding, and muddy as hell.

Get a Vyper
#31
Quote by Offworld92
Not really. None of the other modelers can even come close to touching how versatile/ how many options/ how customizable the Vypyr is. Not to mention that it just flat out sounds good for how much it costs.

TS: The Vypyr will be able to handle what you want with ease. If you want something all tube, you can probably find a Bugera on ebay.

EDIT: Don't forget that you can always wait/save up. If you could get around $400-500, some real options would open up to you (in the form of Peavey 5150/6505 combos)

The vypyr ss series is overrated lol, the tube version is nice but the ss versions are nothing special, vox moddelers sound leauges better than a vypyr.

TS- Look for a used vox ad-xl series or save up a little more and look into used 5150/6505s or xxx.
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Quote by romeozdistress
Blackstar HT-1 is another one i was looking at, i just want some new gear, and i figure I can improve my practice amp. Im just a beginner. I wont be gigging, maybe just jamming a little.

The ht series are not full tube and they sound like crap

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