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Not having an open mind is akin to murder: it kills expansion, relations, and lives, which it has taken in the past and will undoubtedly continue in a world of prejudice.

I felt like making a quote about my most revered virtue

Questions, comments, criticisms?
And yes, I do realize that this might be the wrong/thread/site/this whole thread is stupid, but then again, you probably wouldn't get the saying I just made if you said that anyway.


It's become clear that whoever posted the wiki link to mondegreen but deleted it was the smartest of all, this whole fucking thread has been about our inability to create a definition for open mindedness!
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#2
There's a big difference between being open-minded and not grounded with reality. Sometimes being open-minded simply for the sake of being open-minded can be, actually, closed-minded.
#3
Please explain in greater detail or simpler wording...clearly I have already been outsmarted by the first reply lmao
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#4
Metal is the bestest type of music.
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We're going to need a concrete definition of open minded. I've heard it used about seven different ways here.
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#6
I use it in the sense of accepting other peoples opinions and respecting their choices while taking criticism and general bullshit in stride
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We're going to need a concrete definition of open minded. I've heard it used about seven different ways here.


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#9
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We're going to need a concrete definition of open minded. I've heard it used about seven different ways here.

If we're talking about art, I think seeing art on its own terms rather than your own. Ie working out what the artist was trying to achieve and appreciating that, rather than looking for something specific and rejecting it if you don't find it.

James Gleeson had a quote about that but I can't remember it and no-one has written it down according to Google.
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Please explain in greater detail or simpler wording...clearly I have already been outsmarted by the first reply lmao


People will sometimes hold opinions and ideas contrary to the status quo simply for the sake of being antagonistic. They see it as being open-minded, when sometimes it's just silly and pointless. This is most-oft observed in broke artists, musicians, 99% of Pit monkeys, and college hipsters who see themselves as intellectual messiahs because they're brave enough to bite the hand that feeds them.

Don't be one of these people.
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People will sometimes hold opinions and ideas contrary to the status quo simply for the sake of being antagonistic. They see it as being open-minded, when sometimes it's just silly and pointless. This is most-oft observed in broke artists, musicians, 99% of Pit monkeys, and college hipsters who see themselves as intellectual messiahs because they're brave enough to bite the hand that feeds them.

Don't be one of these people.

Yes, and this is why I refuse to define myself as open-minded. Now, if we're talking about not judging things (at face value or otherwise), then that's different. I prefer to be non-judgmental over being "open-minded". However, I also temper such a quality with common sense.

For instance, it's non-judgmental to say, "Well, alternative fuel may be good, and if it good, I would probably use it". It's common sense to say, "Right now, there's no alternative fuel that is as economically viable as gasoline". I may want alternative fuel (because a cleaner earth is always good). However, the simple fact is that, when I fill my car with E85-ethanol, I notice that gas mileage display shows a decrease compared to regular unleaded.
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People will sometimes hold opinions and ideas contrary to the status quo simply for the sake of being antagonistic. They see it as being open-minded, when sometimes it's just silly and pointless. This is most-oft observed in broke artists, musicians, 99% of Pit monkeys, and college hipsters who see themselves as intellectual messiahs because they're brave enough to bite the hand that feeds them.

Don't be one of these people.

No, what's really going on is people have different opinions to you and instead of being open minded you call these people 'college hipsters' etc.
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No, what's really going on is people have different opinions to you and instead of being open minded you call these people 'college hipsters' etc.
And might I point out that your judgment in this matter makes you the opposite of open-minded. But hey...way to feel insulted, instead of actually looking at the whole statement. Consider the sum of the parts, not the parts themselves.
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And might I point out that your judgment in this matter makes you the opposite of open-minded. But hey...way to feel insulted, instead of actually looking at the whole statement. Consider the sum of the parts, not the parts themselves.

Not necessarily.

Being open minded means being attuned to and aware of the possibilities stemming from whatever topic or situation is at hand, and understanding that they exist, even if they contradict what you believe. While open-mindedness is too often confused with the stance of agreeing with everything all the time, that's not really what it means. At all.

Maybe he was aware of what you're saying, and simply disagrees with it.


As far as 'not having an open mind being akin to murder,' the opposite could be true. Being so open minded that you consistently compromise your ideals, beliefs, and self, could also be construed as murder.

Or suicide.
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And might I point out that your judgment in this matter makes you the opposite of open-minded. But hey...way to feel insulted, instead of actually looking at the whole statement. Consider the sum of the parts, not the parts themselves.

He's calling people 'college hipsters', a statement that doesn't really make much sense at the best of times, and going by all his other posts, i'm right. If you have an opinion like his, then at what point do you draw the line? Apparently having a contrary opinion to the established social norm as defined by busy bodies would put the person in the 'college hipster' bracket.
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Not having an open mind is akin to murder: it kills expansion, relations, and lives, which it has taken in the past and will undoubtedly continue in a world of prejudice.

I felt like making a quote about my most revered virtue

Questions, comments, criticisms?
And yes, I do realize that this might be the wrong/thread/site/this whole thread is stupid, but then again, you probably wouldn't get the saying I just made if you said that anyway.
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People will sometimes hold opinions and ideas contrary to the status quo simply for the sake of being antagonistic. They see it as being open-minded, when sometimes it's just silly and pointless. This is most-oft observed in broke artists, musicians, 99% of Pit monkeys, and college hipsters who see themselves as intellectual messiahs because they're brave enough to bite the hand that feeds them.

Don't be one of these people.


Well then I would define mine as being individualist open mindedness then. I keep my own opinions and will defend them, but I'm not going to ignore someone elses opinion and I'll at least mull over the validity and truth in it. It really stems from my hatred of religious bigotry which could best be explained by this hs Olcott quote:

"we are constantly and painfully reminded that the prejudice of inimical critics, on the one hand, and the furious bigotry of devotees, on the other, blind men to fact and probability, and lead to gross I justice"

That being said, I was cracking up at the guys who said "metal music is the bestest" and "I'm still not having gay sex!" I wouldve quoted them but this iPad makes it difficult
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#24
I'd honestly say that everything that has been posted thus far is quite intelligent - especially what stratoblaster has said, and everything not meant to be intelligent has been funny, given that I read some with a large helping of sarcasm

Jimedit: I would also agree with whalepuddings statement about art, makes sense to me
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if you are always open minded you are closing your mind to being close minded
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#29
An open mind is like a fortress, with its gates unbarred and unguarded.
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if you are always open minded you are closing your mind to being close minded

No, you are opening your mind from being closed. That's like saying by opening a door you are closing it to being closed, it doesn't make any sense when you say that.
#33
having thought about this a little in my own time, I agree with most of what's been said here. I do find it funny that it's already degraded into semantics, but I digress.

The key to "being open minded" is really about making an attempt to understand something you immediately can't. The next and very important step is whether you accept that as part of what you believe or your outlook on life. I may understand why a white supremacist has his beliefs, but I don't find them acceptable.
#34
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No, you are opening your mind from being closed. That's like saying by opening a door you are closing it to being closed, it doesn't make any sense when you say that.


open your mind and you will understand
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#35
Being critical and not dogmatic is more important. Sometimes being told to have an open mind is like being told 'think for yourself'. Everyone thinks for themselves, just not necessarily like you.
#36
When someone says you should be open minded they basically mean you have to agree with them.
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#37
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No, what's really going on is people have different opinions to you and instead of being open minded you call these people 'college hipsters' etc.


Stereotypes don't just fall out of the sky. The exist because there was enough of a trend to warrant labeling a certain group. And yes, as a whole, college students are aloof, self-righteous piss ants who are begging for an excuse to resist the system they are training to work for.
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Well, of course he is. He's a man and she's a woman.

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