Poll: is fapping instant gratification in a similar way as explained?
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View poll results: is fapping instant gratification in a similar way as explained?
yes
18 35%
no
14 27%
i should smoke weed errday
3 6%
i should jerk off and smoke weed erryday
16 31%
Voters: 51.
#1
I realised after a horrible acid trip that I was using weed as instant gratification. It made me feel like I accomplished something good everyday, when in reality, I wasn't accomplishing nearly as much as I should have. Now, the main question of this thread is: is fapping the same thing? Instant gratification. I'm thinking about not fapping anymore to see if it is giving a similar effect as weed to my brain. Already from being 2 days without both, I feel motivated to get a girlfriend and motivated to find more things that make me happy. Thoughts?
#2
...

wat?

Are you high or something?
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#3
...Wait, doing acid made you decide weed was bad for you?

I'm really confused here.
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#5
of course fapping is instant gratification. But I'm ok with that
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#6
dude, you're like a woman over-analyzing the situation.
It's over simplified, So what!

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dude, you're like a woman over-analyzing the situation.

yes maybe, but I like over analyzing as long as it doesn't harm me.
#8
it depends how long you watch the porn for first
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...Wait, doing acid made you decide weed was bad for you?

I'm really confused here.

I felt that this was sound logic.
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#10
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yes maybe, but I like over analyzing as long as it doesn't harm me.



here.

Don't do shit because you think it will change you and make you better ect.

Do shit because thats what you want and said shit makes you happy.

life is about being happy
It's over simplified, So what!

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here.

Don't do shit because you think it will change you and make you better ect.

Do shit because thats what you want and said shit makes you happy.

life is about being happy

Nicely said, although it doesn't really answer my question. What I am saying is by taking these two simple forms of instant gratification out of my day, will i naturally pursue other forms of happiness to make up for lack of instant gratification or will nothing change. By fapping and smoking weed, no matter how lame my day was I am momentarely happy no matter what and naturally dismiss any bad matter
#14
i smoke weed while i fap. it's kind of like that one weird fetish where you fap while hanging yourself, except it's much less risky.
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i smoke weed while i fap. it's kind of like that one weird fetish where you fap while hanging yourself, except it's much less risky.

I took a piss once while smoking. It confused my body greatly, it was like rubbing your belly and patting your head.

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#16
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Nicely said, although it doesn't really answer my question. What I am saying is by taking these two simple forms of instant gratification out of my day, will i naturally pursue other forms of happiness to make up for lack of instant gratification or will nothing change. By fapping and smoking weed, no matter how lame my day was I am momentarely happy no matter what and naturally dismiss any bad matter



hmm...
Heres a lyric that i think may help.

"a 40 oz to freedom is the only chance I have to feel good even though I feel bad" - 40 oz to freedom, Sublime.

take from it what you will, But I don't think that getting rid of what you like to do and what makes you happy will trigger a natural response to find happiness elsewhere.


I'll just use hunger as my analogy

When you get hungry, you generally don't want to sit there and cook a meal for an hour, you just want a sandwich. and that is one good f**king sandwich.

But other times, you need more than a sandwich, and you know you're going to get hungry later. so you go ahead and take the time to make yourself a nice dinner.

likewise, Smoking and fapping makes you happy when you need it, and it's worth it.

however cuddling with a gf and hanging out with friends family also makes you happy, but you can't be doin that shit all the time. get it? because im not sure if i do... but yeah.
It's over simplified, So what!

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#17
Yes but I don't need to fap every single god Damn day. Eventually you get to the point where you ask yourself, why am I jerking off? I should go and get a girlfriend to do this for me with her mouth. Instead of imaging it happening. I need to cheer up, iv been depressed lately and I think eliminating these two things will make me look for happiness, rather than being ok with what I have, wheb what I have isn't a lot and can be easily improved. I'm sure I can do both and go look for other things to make me happy, but I'm unmotivated and usually that means I have to make my life slightly less appealing in order to see how low iv sunk so i can go and make things better then get the things i gave up back, if I still need them.
#18
allright then, I may have a solution.

but I need to ask
Do you have friends that like to party?
and do you have a job?
It's over simplified, So what!

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#20
You've got a very skewed sense of "accomplishing something," TS.
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#22
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allright then, I may have a solution.

but I need to ask
Do you have friends that like to party?
and do you have a job?

i have zero friends outside jazz
i have no job
why? because fapping and smoking weed prevented me from seeing that. a fap a day keeps reality away as i always say
#23
Masturbation is awesome, but girlfriends are good for more than just sex (although it depends I suppose, ha).

I have a good tug or two every day and I don't feel any less motivated to do anything. I don't smoke weed all that often though. Once every couple of months I suppose.
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#24
so if you were depressed, and thought that these forms of instant gratification were adding to your lack of motivation, would you give them both up, so that when you get yourself out of it, you can go back to them and they will both be that much better, or you wouldnt even want to do them anymore because you dont seek their instant gratification?
#25
I was curious about this to some extent, and just didn't do it for 3 months as an experiment, but it was mostly to prove a point that I could do just fine without it. Ignoring urges was really easy after the first 2 weeks. Didn't notice much difference in motivation. Jerking off isn't going to impact motivation, unless you're setting aside whole days/evenings when you would be other wise doing something productive to do it.
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#26
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I was curious about this to some extent, and just didn't do it for 3 months as an experiment, but it was mostly to prove a point that I could do just fine without it. Ignoring urges was really easy after the first 2 weeks. Didn't notice much difference in motivation. Jerking off isn't going to impact motivation, unless you're setting aside whole days/evenings when you would be other wise doing something productive to do it.


I didn't masturbate for 2 weeks straight once. I ended up ejaculating in my sleep every second night for the next week until I started again. How you managed 3 months is beyond me
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#27
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I was curious about this to some extent, and just didn't do it for 3 months as an experiment, but it was mostly to prove a point that I could do just fine without it. Ignoring urges was really easy after the first 2 weeks. Didn't notice much difference in motivation. Jerking off isn't going to impact motivation, unless you're setting aside whole days/evenings when you would be other wise doing something productive to do it.

im doing a horrible job explaining this if people keep coming to this conclusion. i cant explain my idea any better...
jerking off can be viewed as an easy +1 to your day. you may not even notice it, but after not doing it for a while, would you notice any difference?
#28
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im doing a horrible job explaining this if people keep coming to this conclusion. i cant explain my idea any better...
jerking off can be viewed as an easy +1 to your day. you may not even notice it, but after not doing it for a while, would you notice any difference?


The answer to this is no, aside from constant wet dreams.
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#30
I smoke err'day because I know I can and I enjoy it. I know I'm wasting my time but most of the people I know who don't smoke waste just as much time as I do who don't smoke.
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#31
I kinda did this last year, but only with weed (to prove that I could stop if I wanted to). I didn't smoke for about 2.5 months but all that ended up happening was I turned out really depressed by the last few days, didnt miss the weed or anything, just life seemed shit. Until I got an 8th and stayed at a friends house laughing at silly shit on the internet. But maybe it's not a good thing that the weed made me happy? I see what you're saying with the +1 thing, but for me it isn't that weed is an added bonus to the day, it's something that makes the day bearable if there isn't anything else. MAYBE I JUST NEED HELP WHO KNOWS LOLS
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#33
Instant gratification is the same as everything else in life, fine in moderation. It only becomes a problem when that is your only source of happiness.
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here.

Don't do shit because you think it will change you and make you better ect.

Do shit because thats what you want and said shit makes you happy.

life is about being happy
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#35
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Instant gratification is the same as everything else in life, fine in moderation. It only becomes a problem when that is your only source of happiness.

Well put.
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Instant gratification is the same as everything else in life, fine in moderation. It only becomes a problem when that is your only source of happiness.

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#37
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Instant gratification is the same as everything else in life, fine in moderation. It only becomes a problem when that is your only source of happiness.


mmhm, I agree. It's not necessarily the only source of happiness for me, but it makes me a shitload happier than being sober (well, until about a week ago, I think im getting past it). I was in chronic depression for about 14 months until recently, it started being that I wasn't getting high to get high, I was getting high so I didn't feel shit. Even now though, sometimes I'll smoke and feel shit, but it depends what enviroment you're in. Fuck it I'm just gonna start drinking again.
#38
Wait wait wait. What the fuck is going on here. Smoking weed is not instant gratification. Depending on how much you smoke, it's 20 minutes - 2 hours of gratification. Get your fax strait bwah.

It's also the most rewarding form of gratification. You learn so much! And you eat so many yummy snacks!

^ Hey man, don't start drinking. I gave up binge drinking and am so much happier because of it. Seems that people make the same case toward weed, saying you'll be happier if you don't smoke, but weed serves an entirely different purpose. For one, you feel less physical pain (for those of us who have body injuries that hurt a lot ), it distracts you from certain cyclic thoughts should you choose to distract yourself, and you the cloudy feeling you get dampens your depressive thought cycles.
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