#1
For a lot of my music I think that it would be nice to be able to add that very subtle, fluttery vibrato sound you hear in surf rock. I'm basically looking at three options right now, adding a bigsby to my thinline tele, adding a bigsby to my xaviere xv 580 (basically a double cut les paul) or buying some kind of whammy pedal. I would really like to get the whammy pedal because I could use it for both my guitars and I could also use it to play White Stripes and Rage Against the Machine stuff but for some reason I have a feeling that they don't do subtle surf rock vibrato very well. If I decide to get a bigsby does anyone have instructions for adding one to a guitar or which guitar would be easier to add one to? Any information about them would be great. I'm basically looking for opinions on which option to go with and suggestions for specific products to buy.
#3
Okay so I guess a bigsby is what I want. Are they easy to install? If its easy which guitar would it easier to add to?
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It'd be easier to put it on the LP copy.

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Surf rock vibrato is not subtle at all, IMO

Either way, a Bigsby is a TERRIBLE choice for a trem.

I highly recommend getting a guitar with a sturdy standard style trem, or with a floyd rose. Bigsby won't do it. And a whammy pedal is a totally different thing/sound. That won't work either.
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Either way, a Bigsby is a TERRIBLE choice for a trem.


Incorrect.

A Bigsby with a guitar that hasnt been setup properly is a terrible choice for a trem.
A Bigsby with a guitar with good tuners, a proper setup with a good bridge and nut is a fantastic trem.
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Incorrect.

A Bigsby with a guitar that hasnt been setup properly is a terrible choice for a trem.
A Bigsby with a guitar with good tuners, a proper setup with a good bridge and nut is a fantastic trem.


At the end of the day, I'd rather have a Strat or a Wilkinson trem than a Bigsby.
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Totally.
Different strokes for different folks.
And they are a very different style of trem than a strat style trem, i personally love the one on my Jet and Tele. but i know not everyone does
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Incorrect.

A Bigsby with a guitar that hasnt been setup properly is a terrible choice for a trem.
A Bigsby with a guitar with good tuners, a proper setup with a good bridge and nut is a fantastic trem.


I think you misunderstood... I was implying, it's a terrible choice for what he wants to do. Surf rock up to Tom Morello... a Bigsby is not going to do that.
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I think you misunderstood... I was implying, it's a terrible choice for what he wants to do. Surf rock up to Tom Morello... a Bigsby is not going to do that.


+1

You're either going to want a VERY loose Bigsby or something a bit more suitable for the task.
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You're either going to want a VERY loose Bigsby or something a bit more suitable for the task.

i don't think it's even a matter of how loose the bigsby's "action" is, if you push a bigsby down as far as it'll go before the spring is fully compressed, you barely get a full semitone drop on some strings, and if you pull it up too high the spring just pops out, so it has a very limited range just by the nature of its design and there's really not a lot that you can do about that.

subtlety and pitch bend range aren't usually things that you can have both of with any particular style of trem. i think a vintage style strat trem is about the closest you'll get to being satisfactory for everything that you want to do, but it'll be a bit of a compromise on both sides of the spectrum imo.
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#12
Bigsby is too subtle for my liking. For a tele fit (you simply replace the hardware, and you can put it back later if you like), go with a Stets Bar trem. They are more sensitive and you get a bigger range in your vibrato (if and when desired).
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Check out Stetsbar. They make a trem system for Les Pauls, Teles etc that fits with no modification. It's capable of crazy divebombs and Floyd Rose/Strat style fun.
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You could get the whammy pedal and a tremolo pedal perhaps?

How is a tremolo pedal going to give him anything close to the vibrato provided by a strat or a bigsby?
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He said he was looking for a subtle surf style sound the tremolo should cover that I would think. Granted its not as flexible as having a trem on the guitar.
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Okay so I guess a bigsby is what I want. Are they easy to install? If its easy which guitar would it easier to add to?


Here's one mounted on my Les Paul

Google it, and I've found a company that sells a mount that you don't have to drill holes... Mine came from the factory that way..

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i don't think it's even a matter of how loose the bigsby's "action" is, if you push a bigsby down as far as it'll go before the spring is fully compressed, you barely get a full semitone drop on some strings, and if you pull it up too high the spring just pops out, so it has a very limited range just by the nature of its design and there's really not a lot that you can do about that.


Yea.. the Bigsby system isn't a Floyd Rose... Not even close.. but I love's mine..
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He said he was looking for a subtle surf style sound the tremolo should cover that I would think. Granted its not as flexible as having a trem on the guitar.

I don't think you understand what a tremolo pedal does. Fluctuating the volume isn't going to help him in his quest for vibrato.
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You checked out the new Stetsbar pro stuff? Meant to be good. Bolts straight on where the tailpiece is. No holes to drill.
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