#1
Hi guys. I bought a firebird a few years ago. Since then, I've gained some knowledge about what sounds I like making

I play both my Les Paul and my Firebird on a line6 spider(though I wish I didn't). My LP sounds significantly brighter. I thought this could be because I have my LP in standard(.10 gauge) and my Firebird in C(.12 gauge). But I remember my firebird feeling dull even when it was in standard.

So I came to some possibilities:

A. My firebird has not had a proper setup since switching to C
B. my amp doesn't like my firebird
C. It's the pickups
or D. I'm stoopid

I probably sound like a major n00b. I guess I am with this sort of thing. I'm pretty bummed because a guitar that looks so cool, should not have to sound dull.
#3
Quote by ethan_hanus
but I can't remember what the heck a firebird is, so I'm gonna go with crappy pickups...and crappy amp.


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#5
and crappy amp.

Which doesn't matter since he was playing both guitars through it.
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#6
First question first, does your Firebird have minibuckers, or full size humbuckers? Minibuckers aren't going to sound as strong as a full sized pickup. Second question would be which exact model of Firebird do you own? Different Firebirds are made from different woods, and that would have a significant effect on the tone you would get. A cheaper Epiphone Studio is made from different woods than a Gibson Firebird V for example. Speaking of this, I know some of the Neck-through Firebirds (specifically the V and the VII) had Walnut wings which gave them a deeper sound to counter the Minibuckers but I personally found it a little lacking in resonance (thus making it muddy sounding under high distortion IMO).

One last thing, a Firebird isn't going to sound like a LP, no matter how close the specs are. The bodies resonate differently, giving the Firebird a more bright tone than a LP would give (again IMO).
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#8
I guess maybe "bright" isn't the best word to describe the LP's sound. "Soulful" maybe. It has more of a presence. Firebird feels muddy
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First question first, does your Firebird have minibuckers, or full size humbuckers? Minibuckers aren't going to sound as strong as a full sized pickup. Second question would be which exact model of Firebird do you own? Different Firebirds are made from different woods, and that would have a significant effect on the tone you would get.

It's a gibson Firebird V. It seems like it might be the minibuckers. They are slim and silver. I got it new in 2008.
Quote by onemanarmy9
...I personally found it [mini-buckers] a little lacking in resonance (thus making it muddy sounding under high distortion IMO).

I think this, in combination with the tuning, and lack of proper set up are to blame.
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One last thing, a Firebird isn't going to sound like a LP, no matter how close the specs are. The bodies resonate differently, giving the Firebird a more bright tone than a LP would give (again IMO).

Trust me I don't want them to sound the same. I just feel like it (the firebird) can do more. If I decided to change the pickups, what should I know beforehand?
#10
Quote by Pac_man0123
That changing your amp would get a lot more responsiveness out of your firebird than new pickups will.


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Quote by ethan_hanus
...and crappy amp.
Which doesn't matter since he was playing both guitars through it.
LP sounds good on it, Firebird, not so much.

Believe you me; I don't like my line6. If I could have a nice marshal with a fair selection of pedals...that would be great. But, I would much rather spend 200 bucks changing the pickups and possibly resolving my issue than spend $800+ for a new amp and effects.
Last edited by Lokobo at Dec 29, 2011,
#12
Save up more money and buy a better amp. Doesn't have to be that expensive and in the long run you will get more out of it than changing the pickups.
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#13
Middle Pickup...

too much volume on the middle pickup will mud things up a bit...
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#14
Quote by Papabear505
Middle Pickup...

too much volume on the middle pickup will mud things up a bit...

it's a firebird V, i think it's the firebird VII that has the middle pickup.
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