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#1
OK, so I was asked to start a new R & P thread, (the old one is three years old) so here goes. (actualy it's just an edited version of the first post from the last R&P thread made by marchoso )

Rules.
This thread is for discussing all matters relating to religion (and thusly all areas specifically theological and generally religious) and all things philosophical (excluding political philosophy, obviously.)

Though there will be overlap, generally it should be obvious when a piece of philosophical discussion should be in the politics thread.

Don't be disrespectful. Respectful debate is one thing and it's it's perfectly acceptable but being an arsehole is something else entirely... (and it's not acceptable)

Coming in and simply posting, 'God doesn't exist' (or vice versa) is spam and will be treated as such.
Give your posts substance, or don't bother posting. If you believe God exists, (or doesn't exist) say why you believe that.

Remember the regulars in this thread come from all walks of life, Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Buddhist, Hindu, Atheist, Agnostic, ect. That means that no matter what your views are, there's going to be someone who disagrees.

Be good, try to learn from each other, enjoy.

Slacker.
Last edited by SlackerBabbath at Jan 7, 2012,
#2
Best book in the Bible?

My vote goes to the Book of Job
But we little know until tried how much of the uncontrollable there is in us, urging across glaciers and torrents, and up dangerous heights, let the judgment forbid as it may.
#4
Jesus: black, white, arab?

GO!
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Quote by Dreadnought
Best book in the Bible?

My vote goes to the Book of Job


That's a damn good choice, obviously written before Satan was considered as 'evil' which makes it interesting, but I prefer the Book of Genesis myself. I find it absolutely fascinating. If you learn about other culture's creation myths, especially the early Mesopotamian creation myths, it makes reading Genesis a whole lot more interesting.
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Quote by Carnivean
Jesus: black, white, arab?

GO!


Assuming that Jesus was a Galilean Semite, his skin would have most likely have been olive-coloured.
#11
I love Genesis and in particular the life of Abraham. Got his wife preggers when he was 100... what a dog!
#12
Quote by Dreadnought
Best book in the Bible?

My vote goes to the Book of Job


Interesting. I always recommend people to read the Sermon on the Mount.
“Just to sum up: I would do various things very quickly.” - Donald Trump
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My friend theorized that as long as we're owning everything, and we are the master species on this planet, you own everyone else just as much you own yourself. That means you own only a 7 billionth of yourself. We're in this thing together, and the more people there are, the less you own yourself or your fate.


From the last thread, I just wanted to give my thumbs up.
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#17
Quote by bradulator
Interesting. I always recommend people to read the Sermon on the Mount.


Full book haha.

I think in terms of action and shtuff, Revelations was always my favorite. Fantastic imagery and poetic metaphors on a huge scale.

Romans was always a solid one, because of the uplifting message behind it. More so if you're a Christian, but even as an atheist viewed story, it's a message stating that you've got someone that will always be there for you, so you should never really let fear into your heart.

It's kind of a nice thought.

Quote by Vitor_vdp
Because of this thread I have a sudden urge to read the Bible. How do I go about this? Just read it start to finish? Is there something I should know about beforehand?


Entire bible? That's a hefty feat.

There are some that do start to finish, but here's a Christian based website that explains different ways to read through it.

http://www.gospel.com/blog/index.php/2007/11/15/how-to-read-the-entire-bible/
Last edited by blake1221 at Dec 29, 2011,
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Quote by Vitor_vdp
Because of this thread I have a sudden urge to read the Bible. How do I go about this? Just read it start to finish? Is there something I should know about beforehand?


Get it on audio book like me. Narrated by Mel Gibson.
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#19
Quote by Vitor_vdp
Because of this thread I have a sudden urge to read the Bible. How do I go about this? Just read it start to finish? Is there something I should know about beforehand?


Yep, from start to finish is the best way to do it really, that way you get everything in correct context.

I'd advise that you read a literal translation though, ('Young's Literal' is my favourite and it's available online) because certain other translations are not always accurate.
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Quote by Vitor_vdp
Because of this thread I have a sudden urge to read the Bible. How do I go about this? Just read it start to finish? Is there something I should know about beforehand?


There's a lot of reading plans and stuff you can check out. Some are chronological, some are for people entirely new to it all (basics first), some plans are for specific aspects like prophecies or miracles. You could check out some of those, if you'd like. Esther is a pretty good book to start with in the Old Testament. Luke is also good, because it's written by a doctor/scientist, so it gives interesting perspective.


Just curious, are there any Scientologists here?
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Quote by blake1221



Entire bible? That's a hefty feat.



Just to put it into perspective, the combined Harry Potter novels contain 1,090,739 words, and have been read by children all over the world, the Bible contains just 774,746 yet many see it as too many words to read.
#23
lol religion
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#24
Would you like me to create an OP banner for the thread? I can have one ready tomorrow if nobody objects. I don't post myself but I enjoy reading the topic.

If it'd be cool, feel free to suggest what you'd like in the banner. Don't have to be as ostentatious as the GT banner, was thinking something nice and simple.
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Quote by SlackerBabbath
Just to put it into perspective, the combined Harry Potter novels contain 1,090,739 words, and have been read by children all over the world, the Bible contains just 774,746 yet many see it as too many words to read.


imo, the Bible is a much more interesting story.
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Quote by TextOnTheScreen
imo, the Bible is a much more interesting story.


Agreed.

Anyhow, I'm off to a party now, have fun, see you guys in a day or two.... when I've recovered.

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Quote by SlackerBabbath
Just to put it into perspective, the combined Harry Potter novels contain 1,090,739 words, and have been read by children all over the world, the Bible contains just 774,746 yet many see it as too many words to read.
It's because of the begets.
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i mean no offense to buttholes and poop or anything

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#28
Quote by Dreadnought
Best book in the Bible?

My vote goes to the Book of Job

I prefer Ecclesiastes. Interesting how King Solomon asked God for wisdom and when he got it, all he could write about was the "vanity of life."
If Rock is a life-style, then Metal's an addiction

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#30
Quote by SlackerBabbath
Just to put it into perspective, the combined Harry Potter novels contain 1,090,739 words, and have been read by children all over the world, the Bible contains just 774,746 yet many see it as too many words to read.


But God doesn't put commandments into neat spells.

And the font is so tiny!
#31
Seems fitting that slacker makes a religion thread
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#33
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Eastern > Western


No not this year. CP and Griffin together will bring a whole new dynamic in the west to deal with and the Knicks are sooo overrated.
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No not this year. CP and Griffin together will bring a whole new dynamic in the west to deal with and the Knicks are sooo overrated.

He means football, basketballboy.
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#35
I really love the older stuff Jesus did with The Apotheles but his solo project was far too underground for me.

On topic.

I have nothing to say
sometimes I see us in a cymbal splash or in the sound of a car crash
#36
So, nihilism anybody? I agree with a couple of it's major points.


Weird techno music suddenly crests the horizon.

#37
Quote by JamSessionFreak
So, nihilism anybody? I agree with a couple of it's major points.

I would discuss nihilism, but what's the point?
In my heart I'm with you

every night
#38
Quote by palm mute
I would discuss nihilism, but what's the point?

Not sure what you mean exactly but I presume you equate all nihilism with radical nihilism - the idea that nothing exists.
But that's far from all nihilism. I hate to use Wikipedia as a source but it's article on nihilism is pretty good.
Moral nihilism for one states that all morals are completely man (or animal) made and do not exist outside of our minds.
I very much agree with this but that doesn't mean I disregard morals. Not at all actually. I very much enjoy following them.
Edit: Correcting mistakes.


Weird techno music suddenly crests the horizon.

Last edited by JamSessionFreak at Dec 29, 2011,
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Quote by JamSessionFreak
Not sure what you mean exactly but I presume you equate all nihilism with radical nihilism - the idea that nothing exist.
But that's far from all nihilism. I hateo use wikipedia as a source but it's article on nihilis is pretty good.
Moral nihilism for one states that all morals are completely man (or animal) made and do not exist outside our minds.
I very much agree with this but that doesn't mean I disregard morals. Not at all actually. I very much enjoy following them.

I know, I wasn't being serious.
In my heart I'm with you

every night
#40
Quote by palm mute
I would discuss nihilism, but what's the point?
Oh I get it!
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Quote by Bob_Sacamano
i kinda wish we all had a penis and vagina instead of buttholes

i mean no offense to buttholes and poop or anything

Rest in Peace, Troy Davis and Trayvon Martin and Jordan Davis and Eric Garner and Mike Brown