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#41
Quote by JamSessionFreak
Not sure what you mean exactly but I presume you equate all nihilism with radical nihilism - the idea that nothing exist.
But that's far from all nihilism. I hateo use wikipedia as a source but it's article on nihilis is pretty good.
Moral nihilism for one states that all morals are completely man (or animal) made and do not exist outside our minds.
I very much agree with this but that doesn't mean I disregard morals. Not at all actually. I very much enjoy following them.


Fix'd
Quote by Carmel
I can't believe you are whoring yourself out like that.

ಠ_ಠ
#42
Quote by palm mute
I know, I wasn't being serious.

I got what you were saying 3/4 into writing my post but didn't want to quit then.
I apologise for my daftness.


Gozd in gora poj,
silen ženimo hrup,
uboga gmajna, le vpup, le vkup,
le vkup, le vkup z menoj,
staro pravdo v mrak tulimo,
da se pretulimo skozi to zimo
#43
Quote by JamSessionFreak
I got what you were saying 3/4 into writing my post but didn't want to quit then.
I apologise for my daftness.

It's fine man, it was a terrible joke anyway.
In my heart I'm with you

every night
#44
Quote by palm mute
It's fine man, it was a terrible joke anyway.


It had to be made, though.
#45
Quote by Neo Evil11
Fix'd

Are you making a joke by changing nothing or am I missing something?


Gozd in gora poj,
silen ženimo hrup,
uboga gmajna, le vpup, le vkup,
le vkup, le vkup z menoj,
staro pravdo v mrak tulimo,
da se pretulimo skozi to zimo
#46
Quote by JamSessionFreak
Are you making a joke by changing nothing or am I missing something?

He is making a profound statement for nihilism, you spent so much time looking for something that was never there.

I reread it a couple times myself >.>
In my heart I'm with you

every night
#47
Quote by palm mute
He is making a profound statement for nihilism, you spent so much time looking for something that was never there.

I reread it a couple times myself >.>

5th sentence silly.
Quote by Carmel
I can't believe you are whoring yourself out like that.

ಠ_ಠ
#48
Quote by Neo Evil11
5th sentence silly.

I still don't see it
In my heart I'm with you

every night
#49
Quote by palm mute
I still don't see it


I didn't care enough to fix it.


Quote by Carmel
I can't believe you are whoring yourself out like that.

ಠ_ಠ
#50
FIRST!!!

Wait, what?
Catch me,
heal me,
Lift me back up to the Sun
I choose to live
#51
Hello, since this is a new one I figured it would be a good time to reveal myself as a long-time lurkosaurus in this thread. So hi there. Perhaps I'll begin emerging more often now.
Today I feel electric grey
I hope tomorrow, neon black
#52
Quote by JamSessionFreak
Not sure what you mean exactly but I presume you equate all nihilism with radical nihilism - the idea that nothing exists.
But that's far from all nihilism. I hate to use Wikipedia as a source but it's article on nihilism is pretty good.
Moral nihilism for one states that all morals are completely man (or animal) made and do not exist outside of our minds.
I very much agree with this but that doesn't mean I disregard morals. Not at all actually. I very much enjoy following them.
Edit: Correcting mistakes.

So, just moral nihilism then? 'Nihilism' usually just refers to being in a state of despair and cynicism. It's something to has to be addressed and overcome (to a lot of philosophers). A lot of people also mean Existentialism when they say Nihilism.
Last edited by WhiskeyFace at Dec 29, 2011,
#53
Quote by WhiskeyFace
So, just moral nihilism then? 'Nihilism' usually just refers to being in a state of despair and cynicism. It's something to has to be addressed and overcome (to a lot of philosophers). A lot of people also mean Existentialism when they say Nihilism.

Well I am pretty cynical. I practically despise some things that seem overly positive to me. Our Slovene teacher gave out an assignment for which we had to write witty sentance saying 'X makes me happy because Y'. My classmates all wrote very positive sentances and they annoyed me very much since they sounded like clichés. So I decided to rewrite them in a very cynical way.
'Twas for the lulz but it gives you the general idea.
This could be just a phase I'm in but I'm not at all in a state of dispair. Infact I'm very content with my life right now - everything seems to be going my way.
And before anyone jumps to conclusions, I'm not a goth kid. I'm blond and the only black thing I wear are two or three of my T-shirts.


Gozd in gora poj,
silen ženimo hrup,
uboga gmajna, le vpup, le vkup,
le vkup, le vkup z menoj,
staro pravdo v mrak tulimo,
da se pretulimo skozi to zimo
Last edited by JamSessionFreak at Dec 29, 2011,
#54
Quote by bradulator
From the last thread, I just wanted to give my thumbs up.




While we're on the topic of ownership, I want to talk to about the philosophy behind it. What do you think about the ownership of

(a) Information (intellectual property)
(b) Resources (money or physical resource ownership)
(c) Other people (traditional slavery, indentured servitude, corporations and employees)

respectively? I dislike all three, but I would ideally have just (b) without (a) and (c), to keep the world running. Why do we need to own things?
Quote by denizenz
I'll logic you right in the thyroid.

Art & Lutherie
#55
Quote by darkstar2466


While we're on the topic of ownership, I want to talk to about the philosophy behind it. What do you think about the ownership of

(a) Information (intellectual property)
(b) Resources (money or physical resource ownership)
(c) Other people (traditional slavery, indentured servitude, corporations and employees)

respectively? I dislike all three, but I would ideally have just (b) without (a) and (c), to keep the world running. Why do we need to own things?


Yes to (a) and (b). (c) is sketchy
My God, it's full of stars!
#56
Quote by Dreadnought
Yes to (a) and (b). (c) is sketchy


But a human is the best resource of them all. He can not only collect other resources, but also manipulate them. While we're on this planet owning things, why not own other humans?
Quote by denizenz
I'll logic you right in the thyroid.

Art & Lutherie
#57
Quote by darkstar2466


While we're on the topic of ownership, I want to talk to about the philosophy behind it. What do you think about the ownership of

(a) Information (intellectual property)
(b) Resources (money or physical resource ownership)
(c) Other people (traditional slavery, indentured servitude, corporations and employees)

respectively? I dislike all three, but I would ideally have just (b) without (a) and (c), to keep the world running. Why do we need to own things?

Well I am sorry to go into political waters but a) seems like a product of capitalism - correct me if I'm wrong. I agree that information should not have an owner.
The second point - b) - should also be abolished when speaking theoretically, but acheiving such a system in our world is almost impossible at this time.
C) is not even up for debate as far as I'm concerned - it's bad, bad, bad.
Edit: Oh I thought you meant just slavery. The other versions of such ownership are definitely up for debate.


Gozd in gora poj,
silen ženimo hrup,
uboga gmajna, le vpup, le vkup,
le vkup, le vkup z menoj,
staro pravdo v mrak tulimo,
da se pretulimo skozi to zimo
Last edited by JamSessionFreak at Dec 29, 2011,
#58
Quote by WhiskeyFace
It's something to has to be addressed and overcome (to a lot of philosophers).

Good for them. How's that going so far for them?
#59
Quote by darkstar2466
But a human is the best resource of them all. He can not only collect other resources, but also manipulate them. While we're on this planet owning things, why not own other humans?


They don't make very good pets
My God, it's full of stars!
#60
Quote by JamSessionFreak
Well I am sorry to go into political waters but a) seems like a product of capitalism - correct me if I'm wrong. I agree that information should not have an owner.


As a composer, would you never copyright your work?
My God, it's full of stars!
#62
Quote by Dreadnought
They don't make very good pets






Quote by Dreadnought
As a composer, would you never copyright your work?


Never. I would even go as far as releasing individual tracks (as opposed to the mix) in open formats so that they can be manipulated, remixed, etc. with ease. No money is associated with music in the digital domain.

Any physical products I create, CDs, t-shirts, bracelets, etc. can and will be sold for money. Am a couple of years away from setting up my own studio space and amassing recording equipment, but I definitely trying this out and hope it will work well.
Quote by denizenz
I'll logic you right in the thyroid.

Art & Lutherie
#63
Quote by darkstar2466





Never. I would even go as far as releasing individual tracks (as opposed to the mix) in open formats so that they can be manipulated, remixed, etc. with ease. No money is associated with music in the digital domain.

Any physical products I create, CDs, t-shirts, bracelets, etc. can and will be sold for money. Am a couple of years away from setting up my own studio space and amassing recording equipment, but I definitely trying this out and hope it will work well.


I would totally copyright the sheet music to my pieces In fact I already have!
My God, it's full of stars!
#64
Quote by Dreadnought
As a composer, would you never copyright your work?

I actually wouldn't probably - if we're talking popular music I'd go with concert profits. Classical would be a different story but that is a mostly a problem because of the current system and not because I don't approve other people profiting off of my music.
And some very useful ideas have been lost because their unvailing would cause lose of profit to some companies.
Sorry for the very short answers but I'm posting from my mobile phone.


Gozd in gora poj,
silen ženimo hrup,
uboga gmajna, le vpup, le vkup,
le vkup, le vkup z menoj,
staro pravdo v mrak tulimo,
da se pretulimo skozi to zimo
Last edited by JamSessionFreak at Dec 29, 2011,
#65
Quote by Dreadnought
Best book in the Bible?

My vote goes to the Book of Job


Job is the most interesting story.

I like Song of Songs, Psalms and the Gospel of John.
#DTWD
#66
Quote by JamSessionFreak
Well I am pretty cynical. I practically despise some things that seem overly positive to me. Our Slovene teacher gave out an assignment for which we had to write witty sentance saying 'X makes me happy because Y'. My classmates all wrote very positive sentances and they annoyed me very much since they sounded like clichés. So I decided to rewrite them in a very cynical way.
'Twas for the lulz but it gives you the general idea.
This could be just a phase I'm in but I'm not at all in a state of dispair. Infact I'm very content with my life right now - everything seems to be going my way.
And before anyone jumps to conclusions, I'm not a goth kid. I'm blond and the only black thing I wear are two or three of my T-shirts.

It's not really a position you'd aim for though, unless you wanted people to think you were 'edgy'.

Quote by Thrashtastic15
Good for them. How's that going so far for them?

You decide.
#68
Quote by primusfan
Job is the most interesting story.

I like Song of Songs, Psalms and the Gospel of John.


It has my favorite writing and message as well. I dunno, maybe I've just related to it and found personal value in it more than some others have

Song of Songs is great though, for sure
My God, it's full of stars!
#69
Philosophy is useless, it has no meaning outside the human world. Rocks can't fucking think. All these thoughts are just chemicals in the brain. We create our reality and ideas just to comfort ourselves and affirm our place in the world. Everything is about survival. We are animals. And frankly I would act like an animal if our society allowed for it. But even though we think we are civilized, we really aren't, considering how we act towards each other. Our intelligence is our downfall. But some idiot is gonna say "Oh that's just an excuse to be dumb". No, it's condemning our arrogance while pointing out that we are supposed to act like animals. Animals don't think, they act. I'm a radical this way.
#72
Quote by BDR_23
Philosophy is useless, it has no meaning outside the human world. Rocks can't fucking think. All these thoughts are just chemicals in the brain. We create our reality and ideas just to comfort ourselves and affirm our place in the world. Everything is about survival. We are animals. And frankly I would act like an animal if our society allowed for it. But even though we think we are civilized, we really aren't, considering how we act towards each other. Our intelligence is our downfall. But some idiot is gonna say "Oh that's just an excuse to be dumb". No, it's condemning our arrogance while pointing out that we are supposed to act like animals. Animals don't think, they act. I'm a radical this way.

Ignorance, ignorance, and more ignorance. You really have no idea what you're talking about. Here's an idea: actually study some philosophy.
#74
Quote by WhiskeyFace
Ignorance, ignorance, and more ignorance. You really have no idea what you're talking about. Here's an idea: actually study some philosophy.

Listen man, I don't need to read someone else to tell me what to think.
#77
Quote by WhiskeyFace
Well, man, that's not what philosophy is, not that you'd know.

Well Mr. Smart guy, what is it?

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Scientific discovery of the century.

Thanks for the sarcasm :L

Man, people on here are dicks. Captaincrunk.
Last edited by BDR_23 at Dec 29, 2011,
#78
Quote by BDR_23
Well Mr. Smart guy, what is it?

It's not a matter of "Ok so here's all the different schools of thought, take your pick!", you study the works of great thinkers and see decide if their ideas are valid or not and why and form an opinion, and many of the ideas do have quite significant implications of 'things that matter' (if not all, subtle ones), that's why it works as a system and all the branches overlap eventually. Philosophy teaches you how to think about things properly.
Last edited by WhiskeyFace at Dec 29, 2011,
#79
Quote by BDR_23
Philosophy is useless, it has no meaning outside the human world. Rocks can't fucking think. All these thoughts are just chemicals in the brain. We create our reality and ideas just to comfort ourselves and affirm our place in the world. Everything is about survival. We are animals. And frankly I would act like an animal if our society allowed for it. But even though we think we are civilized, we really aren't, considering how we act towards each other. Our intelligence is our downfall. But some idiot is gonna say "Oh that's just an excuse to be dumb". No, it's condemning our arrogance while pointing out that we are supposed to act like animals. Animals don't think, they act. I'm a radical this way.