#1
So I was given a bottle of kiwi fret lemon oil and I'm not sure if i should use it or not. I have an ESP LTD Ex-50 with a rosewood fretboard and a painted neck, I have read many things about it being bad for glue and paint. Should I be worried or am I just over reacting? I'm thinking of rubbing it over the neck and body, leaving it for half an hour then wiping it off. Is this the best product i should be using? are then any specific types of oils I should be using for different woods? (the body is basswood by the way) I'd prefer to use a natural oil then some product that just says "Lemon Oil".

Thanks for taking the time to read this,
Anton
#2
Lemon oil is fine for rosewood fretboards. I'm not sure it's a good idea to rub it all over the guitar though.
#3
Anton, I've used Lemon Oil on my fretboards for the last few years now and have not experienced any problems at all. You should be fine with putting it on the fretboard. I even used some lemon oil today on a dried out rosewood fretboard on a cheap classical guitar...worked pretty well for moisturizing purposes.
#4
do not wipe the body with oil. i am not sure it would do damage, but the body and neck of the guitar would be as slippery as all hell until it was wiped off.

it is really intended for use on rosewood fretboards. get some on the rag, wipe down the fretboard to the point where it is starting to need absorption, and leave it on for a while and you will be good. i do it probably twice a year.

don't soak the fretboard with it though. you just need a small amount.
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#5
Not heard of the brand, but it's probably not 'lemon oil' anyway; just generic guitar cleaner with a small amount of lemon oil in it. Just use it, it'll be fine either way.
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Not heard of the brand, but it's probably not 'lemon oil' anyway; just generic guitar cleaner with a small amount of lemon oil in it. Just use it, it'll be fine either way.

Well it doesn't sound like he has your basic overpriced glass cleaner.

Lemon oil is meant to moisturize your raw fretboard. Don't over use it or the wood becomes dependent on it. About twice a year someone said? Sounds about right.
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Well it doesn't sound like he has your basic overpriced glass cleaner.

Lemon oil is meant to moisturize your raw fretboard. Don't over use it or the wood becomes dependent on it. About twice a year someone said? Sounds about right.

I'm just thinking of the Dunlop 'Lemon Oil' etc which is mostly just generic guitar polish with lemon scent.

For occasionally (once or twice a year) moisturising and protecting the wood, tung oil is a good choice.
#8
i dunno, the dunlop lemon oil (unless they've changed it recently, i bought my bottle ages ago) is most definitely oil of some description, and i wouldn't put it anywhere other than the fingerboard (plus don't use it on maple).
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Well it doesn't sound like he has your basic overpriced glass cleaner.

Lemon oil is meant to moisturize your raw fretboard. Don't over use it or the wood becomes dependent on it. About twice a year someone said? Sounds about right.

Correct. A luthier on here told me not to (over)use Lemon Oil type products on rosewood. It seeps in, dries out, and then you need to use more and it causes more problems down the line. I think the only time I would use a 'bit' of it would be if if my board was super dried out and nothing else was going to save it.

NEVER ever use Pledge or the like on your guitar.

And FFS use microcloths on the body, not old rags.

Also - never use an old toothbrush on a fretboard. Buy a new toothbrush for that.

#10
so it's a bit like makeup then

a toothbrush, you say? never actually thought of that. I normally just use cotton hankies (though i've ordered a bunch of guitar cloths on thomann as they're handier).
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I meant toothbrush for the frets/fretboard. I hear of people (mostly in EG) telling people to get an old toothbrush to clean their fretboards. Why in the hell would you do that. Toothbrushes cost like $1.247


...and it was CorduroyEW who told me not to use Lemon Oil (any oil really) on a rosewood fretboard. It is great after you first apply it but it will dry out the board faster in the long run.
#12
yeah i think i've seen cordy's posts to that effect before. I still use it

I always meant to get that raw linseed oil (i think that was the one) that dan erlewine mentioned, but never got round to it. then again he says lemon oil is fine. Though I don't apply it and leave it, i just squirt a bit onto a cotton cloth and wipe it onto the fretboard, then go over it again with a dry cloth to remove most of it.

EDIT: yeah i was talking about the frets/fretboard when i was talking about the toothbrush too. that's actually a decent idea, as long as it doesn't mark the thing (i'm guessing you should go with a soft brush).
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lemon oil is for wood, and the body surface aint wood since its laquer so only use it on the fretboard
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^ yeah, I almost forgot but I think it was mentioned already. Do not use any oils, Pledge, Windex, etc on the guitar body. I do use guitar polish every now and then.

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EDIT: yeah i was talking about the frets/fretboard when i was talking about the toothbrush too. that's actually a decent idea, as long as it doesn't mark the thing (i'm guessing you should go with a soft brush).

It won't hurt the board. I've used .0000 steel wool on my Strat and Schextorz with no ill effects.
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A Carvin strat, the ENTIRE everything in tung oil.

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^ yeah, I almost forgot but I think it was mentioned already. Do not use any oils, Pledge, Windex, etc on the guitar body. I do use guitar polish every now and then.


It won't hurt the board. I've used .0000 steel wool on my Strat and Schextorz with no ill effects.


thanks

and yeah i just use dunlop 65 polish. not sure it does all that much, but it does seem to be better than nothing, and it doesn't hurt the finish (though i haven't had the guts to try it with nitro yet, which reminds me, i must email dunlop to ask if it's nitro-safe).

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Thank you all for the replies, I have a rag that I intend to use to apply it. Is there any specific oil that is good for the body?
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Thank you all for the replies, I have a rag that I intend to use to apply it. Is there any specific oil that is good for the body?


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#22
So, there is a difference between treating the fretboard and regular cleaning.

You really only need to use lemon oil once, and then again maybe every ten years or so. It doesn't need to spend any significant amount of time on the fretboard.

There are separate products that you can get for regular cleaning.

And you definitely don't want to be using any of that on maple fretboards, or the rest of the guitar.
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So, there is a difference between treating the fretboard and regular cleaning.

You really only need to use lemon oil once, and then again maybe every ten years or so. It doesn't need to spend any significant amount of time on the fretboard.

There are separate products that you can get for regular cleaning.

And you definitely don't want to be using any of that on maple fretboards, or the rest of the guitar.


so what do you suggest for regular cleaning?
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so what do you suggest for regular cleaning?


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Correct. A luthier on here told me not to (over)use Lemon Oil type products on rosewood. It seeps in, dries out, and then you need to use more and it causes more problems down the line. I think the only time I would use a 'bit' of it would be if if my board was super dried out and nothing else was going to save it.

NEVER ever use Pledge or the like on your guitar.

And FFS use microcloths on the body, not old rags.

Also - never use an old toothbrush on a fretboard. Buy a new toothbrush for that.


How do you know if your fretboard is dry? Both my guitars have rosewood fretboards, and neither has been oiled since I bought them.....
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so what do you suggest for regular cleaning?


Of the fretboard? Personally I use this dunlop kit:

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/accessories/dunlop-guitar-fingerboard-conditioning-kit

They also make great guitar polish and wax treatment stuff that I've used before.

For maple fretboards, a little water and a polishing cloth is fine.
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How do you know if your fretboard is dry? Both my guitars have rosewood fretboards, and neither has been oiled since I bought them.....


does it look and feel dry?

that's sorta how i tell

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found that on image google. just image google "dry fretboard" and you'll get a bunch of hits.
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you can sorta see it in that pic i posted- the left hand side of the fretboard (looking at the pic) hasn't been treated yet and looks dry. the right hand side (from 12th fret markers upwards) has been and looks a lot shinier and healthier.
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so what do you suggest for regular cleaning?


Assuming that you DON'T have a guitar with a nitro finish...

I use good ole' Windex to clean my guitars... A light spray to remove the finger prints and smudges

Then I use good ole' Johnsons Paste Wax to polish them.

I use Dr. Stringfellow's Lem-oil Fret Board conditioner... spray it on the fretboard, rub it in with my fingers.. and wipe it off...

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you can sorta see it in that pic i posted- the left hand side of the fretboard (looking at the pic) hasn't been treated yet and looks dry. the right hand side (from 12th fret markers upwards) has been and looks a lot shinier and healthier.


So basically it should be shiny?

My MH looks a little like the left fretboard.....its not been oiled since 2009 when I got it. Worth an oiling?
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yeah, basically. shiny is maybe a bit much, but it should look "healthy" and "rich" (the quality of the fretboard wood will affect this a fair bit, too).

yeah it's probably worth oiling it.
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#34
Thanks guys, I have decided on what I am going to do. Use the dunlop formula 65 for the body and lemon oil for the fretboard.
#35


Just use guitar polish on the body.


And I remembered around a yeast or so ago I completely disregarded UGers' advice on not using guitar polish on the fretboard. I probably did oversaturate it becauee if was very very shiny after I wiped it off. No side effects but ill probably not do that again.
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Lemon Oil is very necessary for our body. It required for our body to make it healthy. Lemon oil is also very useful for our hair to make it strong and shine. It can also increase the blackness of your hair and grow it. I am also using the lemon oil for my hair.