#1
Title explains my problem, here are the specifics.

I'm pretty convinced I want an analog delay, simply for the warmth and simplicity. I'm not going to be doing any fancy buckethead or U2 type stuff, I'm going to be using it more for a subtle effect on a lead tone and maybe occasionally for a similar sound to Devin Townsend's 'Deadhead'

I've been interested in the MXR Carbon Copy and the Artec SE-ADL and would be very interested to know why there is such a diference in price bewteen the two. I also love the sound of the Red Witch Violet even though I know that it isn't true analog, I don't know what the consensus on those are around here.

Let's try and keep the budget below $150AU I'll go higher if I need to but I don't want to. (Also if you're from the US, feel free to do a 1=1 conversion between currencies but add $20-$30 for shipping because I can get things at US prices only from the US)

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#2
Absolutely go with the Carbon Copy. I have at least 10 different delay pedals, and I am very picky about what delays I use where. While there are delays both better and worse than the Carbon Copy, what you're describing is definitely something within that pedal's range. I highly recommend it.
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#3
The price difference between the MXR and the Artec is mostly brand name and quality. MXR builds pretty solid pedals and have definitely proven themselves worthy of a brand name that can cost a bit more. From what I know of Artec, they're pretty shady - especially on this delay. It technically does not have true bypass and isn't even really analog, if you take a deeper look into the specs. It sounds fine, but I wouldn't say it's as good as the Carbon Copy. You don't want to go cheap with delays, even if you only want it for subtle effects - something I've learned well in my experience. I'm on my third cheap delay pedal, and once it breaks like the others did, I'm going to step up to a more expensive pedal.

All in all, the Artec is still one of the best you'll find in its price range. You could also look at the variety of delay pedals in between the two, I'm pretty sure that Electro Harmonix has a few around $100US, and those I'd personally recommend. I like the Carbon Copy, but I feel it is over priced for how simple it is, especially when Electro Harmonix has some of their Memory Man and Memory Boy models at much cheaper prices.
#4
i agree with the carbon copy. i have one and love it. i use mine after my distortion pedal and it gives a really nice, subtle sound to your lead/solo type of tones. it helps to add a pretty decent amount of depth and makes the sound feel more..... full
#5
Definitely leaning towards the MXR especially since I can only find the Memory Boy for pretty much the same price as the MXR anyway.

Anyone have anything to say about the Red Witch?
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#6
Have you ever considered the TC Electronic flashback delay?

This review made me fall in love with it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvCC1TfNfb4
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#8
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What you're looking for is a Malekko 616.

Forget the CC.


I agree that it seems nice (and the lo fi one sounds gorgeous, just not what I'm after). But I can't find one for less than $300.
If you know of somewhere that sells them at elast close to my budget, I'd be interested.
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#9
i don't think the artec is analogue
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I agree that it seems nice (and the lo fi one sounds gorgeous, just not what I'm after). But I can't find one for less than $300.
If you know of somewhere that sells them at elast close to my budget, I'd be interested.


Dude what. guitarcenter.com and a bunch of other places have the 616 for $150, same price as the MXR.
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#11
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What you're looking for is a Malekko 616.

Forget the CC.


This. The reason for the price disparity is the cheaper build quality an the fact that the Artec is actually an analog voiced digital delay IIRC.
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#12
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Dude what. guitarcenter.com and a bunch of other places have the 616 for $150, same price as the MXR.


But GC don't ship Malekko products to Australia.
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#13
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But GC don't ship Malekko products to Australia.


Then buy from Tonefactor, PGS, etc. They all ship internationally for very reasonable fees.
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I agree that it seems nice (and the lo fi one sounds gorgeous, just not what I'm after). But I can't find one for less than $300.
If you know of somewhere that sells them at elast close to my budget, I'd be interested.


Order from proguitarshop.com ?
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#17
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Go with the Malekko. It's more fully featured, sounds just as good, and costs the same.


You could argue it sounds better. Stands out more in a mix for sure. The Carbon Copy tries too hard to be analog IMO, though higher voltages are supposed to help brighten up the repeats.
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Then buy from Tonefactor, PGS, etc. They all ship internationally for very reasonable fees.


Thanks, I'll enquire further.

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...You could just order it from a shop in Australia

http://www.deluxeguitars.com.au/malekko-ekko616.asp


Nice $150 there, champ.

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So it looks like the 616 is currently unavailable direct or through PGS - I'd try to pick oneup used - the going rate is about $130 which puts it right in your budget with shipping.


Cool, I'll look into that too.
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#22
^ both are out of stock... they've not been discontinued or anything have they?
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#23
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You could argue it sounds better. Stands out more in a mix for sure. The Carbon Copy tries too hard to be analog IMO, though higher voltages are supposed to help brighten up the repeats.


Well, I've only played the Malekko in a guitar center, so I don't want to make judgements on the sound front.