#1
Hello all. I current own two guitars: a Jackson DX10D and Fender Jap Strat. I really love the playability of my Jackson and the sound of my Strat.

However, I've been thinking about adding to my collection with some in a different direction. I play a lot of Rush and The Darkness so I'm sort of naturally inclined to want a Gibson.

When I think Gibson I usually think Les Paul, but they're pretty expensive. Any advice on what to look for? I've done some reading but I dont know much about Gibson.
#2
The only advice there is to give anybody looking at a new guitar is to sit down and play them and make sure the guitar works for them.

I wanted an LP so badly a few years ago, all my favourites played them. Unfortunately when I got out to a store to play my first LP I was quite disappointed, it just didn't work for me.

That's not to say it won't work for you! They are fantastic guitars and the quality still seems to be present. Just make sure it 'speaks to you'.

Another option would be to look into an Gibson SG. They are quite a bit cheaper than an LP Standard, they look pretty badass and I find the playability to be much better. (I currently play a Jackson RR5, so like you, I experience the wonderful playability of the Jackson neck everyday <3 ) This may suit your needs.

If you like crazier shapes, Gibson also makes the Firebird, Explorer and Flying V. Check em all out, see what you like!

Again, I cannot stress enough how important it is to make sure the guitar works for you. There's no sense in dropping a bunch of money on a guitar if you're going to be unhappy with it.

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#3
if u live in the USA, check out rondomusic.com

they make pretty damn good pauls, solid chunks on wood and great feedback from the community.

but if yourquestion was geared towards if gibsons are worth the cash...go play one, i think they are

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#4
i don't know why you would suggest a korean guitar when he specifically asked about an american one. that's like suggesting a backwards pinecone to someone asking about toilet paper.
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#5
well you would be suprised at the quality of these.

plus i wasnt sure if he was asking for similar guitars or simply if the gibson is worth the price tag.

dont judge rondomusic
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#6
I'm too poor so afford a Gibson, so I got an Epiphone Les Paul, and they're basically the same in terms of body build and all that. (Gibsons just have more expensive equipment and wood)

I gotta be honest, the neck was quite too thick for me, and the guitar was pretty damn heavy for an electric guitar. But after owning it for a year now, I can safely say I love it. I actually love the thicker neck and I actually feel less comfortable playing thinner necks now. And I like the weight of the guitar, it feels just right.

Les Pauls are great whether they're Epiphone or Gibson.
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Les Pauls are great whether they're Epiphone or Gibson.


You're probably better off getting one of the higher-end Epiphones. Starting in 2012, all Gibson models will start using Baked Maple, Obeche and Granadillo fingerboards, in lieu of the Lacey Act scandal that's been plaguing them for the past few months. Epiphone, on the other hand, is an Asian manufacturer, therefore they can continue to use real Rosewood and Ebony in their guitars. Put a good set of pickups in there (the stock ones on the high-end Epi's aren't half bad) and you've got as close to a Real Gibson as you'll probably ever get again.
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#8
Quote by JwL456
Hello all. I current own two guitars: a Jackson DX10D and Fender Jap Strat. I really love the playability of my Jackson and the sound of my Strat.

However, I've been thinking about adding to my collection with some in a different direction. I play a lot of Rush and The Darkness so I'm sort of naturally inclined to want a Gibson.

When I think Gibson I usually think Les Paul, but they're pretty expensive. Any advice on what to look for? I've done some reading but I dont know much about Gibson.

How about a LP Studio, or better a LP Special. Both can be found used for $600-1000 depending on model. Not a huge difference between those and a standard. Mostly just the carved top and many layers paint. You still get that rich and warm LP tone for half the cost and less weight.
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Quote by RockinSince1993
You're probably better off getting one of the higher-end Epiphones. Starting in 2012, all Gibson models will start using Baked Maple, Obeche and Granadillo fingerboards, in lieu of the Lacey Act scandal that's been plaguing them for the past few months. Epiphone, on the other hand, is an Asian manufacturer, therefore they can continue to use real Rosewood and Ebony in their guitars. Put a good set of pickups in there (the stock ones on the high-end Epi's aren't half bad) and you've got as close to a Real Gibson as you'll probably ever get again.


Lol.

Where'd you get that info, I'm on two Les Paul forums and not seen that anywhere.

Ebony is no longer being used except on the Ace Frehely guitar and rosewood is going to only be used on CS models and signature/special runs (like Collectors Choice etc.) and a few RIs. Reissues will become produced in much lower figures due to high amount of stock already available and limited rosewood supply.

Gibson USA guitars won't have rosewood as you said however some guitars still will.


Basically means my guitar is from the last year Ebony will be used unless they sort themselves out.
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#10
I was at a venerably Gibson Authorized Dealer on Boxing Day, and that's what they told people. Obviously their custom shop stuff would remain mostly the same, but you can say bye bye to Rosewood and Ebony in your Production models. Gibson truly is going the way of Fender in the 70's.
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#11
Quote by JwL456
Hello all. I current own two guitars: a Jackson DX10D and Fender Jap Strat. I really love the playability of my Jackson and the sound of my Strat.

However, I've been thinking about adding to my collection with some in a different direction. I play a lot of Rush and The Darkness so I'm sort of naturally inclined to want a Gibson.

When I think Gibson I usually think Les Paul, but they're pretty expensive. Any advice on what to look for? I've done some reading but I dont know much about Gibson.

what kind of frets do you like? low or medium height?

what kind of necks do you like? fat, fatter or thin?

budget?

country?
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#12
Quote by EspTro
well you would be suprised at the quality of these.

plus i wasnt sure if he was asking for similar guitars or simply if the gibson is worth the price tag.

dont judge rondomusic


oh i'm not judging them, i love my epi and they're the exact same guitar built by the exact same people minus very subtle differences in shape. but suggesting a 400$ guitar to someone asking about a 2500$ guitar is still a little over the top, agiles aren't THAT good.
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#13
Gibson isn't going to be without rosewood forever. When I was placing an order to Gibson a few weeks ago the rep said they expected to be using rosewood again this summer.

EDIT: I'll call them again tomorrow and double check.
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#14
Thinking about it, I just got my Flying V. Its a June '11 one and the fingerboard is certainly rosewood.






So would this all mean that the reissues like the '68 Flying V will be made in tiny numbers now?
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#15
Look locally for an Epiphone Elitist LP, I've heard those are amazing, and they're roughly 1000$ (the price of a studio, which is probably of lower quality).

Of course, I could understand if you want the Gibson name on your headstock, it's always nice to know you have a gibson like your idols!
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#16
What makes you think the Epi is of higher quality than the Gibson?
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What makes you think the Epi is of higher quality than the Gibson?


Studios have mahogany bodies made from multiple pieces. I don't know for sure but i imagine elitists are going to made of 2-pc bodies like most Gibsons, so supposedly the construction is better. But you'd be very hard pushed to hear the difference tonally between a 1-pc and a multiple piece body. There's too many variables in density between wood pieces to make a definitive conclusion.

Don't quote me on that though. I may be wrong about most Elitists using 2-pc bodies.
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#18
I have a Gibson LP studio doublecut that I bought for $600 used, however, it is far lighter than a standard model and therefore has a somewhat thinner sound. I think it's great, but to see if you like you'll have to try one, and they are not particularly common.
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Thinking about it, I just got my Flying V. Its a June '11 one and the fingerboard is certainly rosewood.






So would this all mean that the reissues like the '68 Flying V will be made in tiny numbers now?


No, I meant CS Reissues like the R9's and R8's, not the 'reissues' like the 84 explorer and the 61RI SG
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You'll get the chance to put the knife in.'
#20
Fair enough.

I don't see it making that much different though. Its not like they mass produce R7 and R8's
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Gibson isn't going to be without rosewood forever. When I was placing an order to Gibson a few weeks ago the rep said they expected to be using rosewood again this summer.

EDIT: I'll call them again tomorrow and double check.



It depends on how quickly they get this Lacey Act bullshit sorted out.
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#22
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Fair enough.

I don't see it making that much different though. Its not like they mass produce R7 and R8's


You'd be surprised, there's a good few thousand of each every year.
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Like the club tie, and the firm handshake,
A certain look in the eye and an easy smile.'

'You have to be trusted by the people that you lie to,
So that when they turn their backs on you,
You'll get the chance to put the knife in.'
#23
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Fair enough.

I don't see it making that much different though. Its not like they mass produce R7 and R8's

lol.

define mass produce.


TS - answer the questions in my earlier post please. otherwise this is just gonna be a useless thread.
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#24
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what kind of frets do you like? low or medium height?

what kind of necks do you like? fat, fatter or thin?

budget?

country?



I really really love the neck on my Jackson and it's the thinnest I've ever played.

I think I'd be most comfortable with medium height frets.

My budget is probably going to be around $500 or so. I would certainly go higher for something I really liked though. Do you think that kind of a budget could get me a good Gibson? Or should I set my sights on a cheaper Ibanez or something?

I live in Tennessee in the U.S.A.
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Quote by JwL456
I really really love the neck on my Jackson and it's the thinnest I've ever played.

I think I'd be most comfortable with medium height frets.

My budget is probably going to be around $500 or so. I would certainly go higher for something I really liked though. Do you think that kind of a budget could get me a good Gibson? Or should I set my sights on a cheaper Ibanez or something?

I live in Tennessee in the U.S.A.

You might be able to get a used Gibson Les Paul Studio at least for the money.
Those are great guitars for the money IMO.
However, there are some people who don't like them, but that's just like with other guitars. If you are going for a Les Paul I'd say Gibson is the way to go.
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#26
The only LPs that have thin necks relatively speaking are the R0, possibly the 60's Tribute Studio and the LP Classic models for the most part. I've heard mots Studios have chunkier (ie normal) Gibson neck profiles.
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#27
you want a good gibson les paul for 500$? that's not gonna happen.

you'll be able to find a good used SG for that price. or a used studio/BFG les paul, but i wouldn't call those good les pauls.

If you're set on getting a "good" gibson you might wanna head over to the casino and try to double down a few times.
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The only LPs that have thin necks relatively speaking are the R0, possibly the 60's Tribute Studio and the LP Classic models for the most part. I've heard mots Studios have chunkier (ie normal) Gibson neck profiles.

+1 to this.

i was thinking a used classic, but they are ~$1200-1400 usually.

you may be better off with a used LTD EC1000 goldtop. they have pretty thin necks and alnico pups.
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#29
Quote by JwL456
I really really love the neck on my Jackson and it's the thinnest I've ever played.

I think I'd be most comfortable with medium height frets.

My budget is probably going to be around $500 or so. I would certainly go higher for something I really liked though. Do you think that kind of a budget could get me a good Gibson? Or should I set my sights on a cheaper Ibanez or something?

I live in Tennessee in the U.S.A.

Go try out one of these at a local guitar shop, they're better than any Gibson or Epi for the price. If you like it, it's $629 new, so look around for a used one and it should fit your price range perfectly.
#30
Yeah, a good Les Paul for $500 isn't going to happen.

Come back with about 3 to 4 times that and you'll have more luck..
'And after a while, you can work on points for style.
Like the club tie, and the firm handshake,
A certain look in the eye and an easy smile.'

'You have to be trusted by the people that you lie to,
So that when they turn their backs on you,
You'll get the chance to put the knife in.'
#31
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Go try out one of these at a local guitar shop, they're better than any Gibson or Epi for the price. If you like it, it's $629 new, so look around for a used one and it should fit your price range perfectly.

This is a really good suggestion. I had one of these and it was a fantastic guitar. Great quality a it seriously had a tone similar to my LesPaul. I sold it for $350.