#1
Really like the shimmering cleans plus I'll be running my ToneLab ST through it when I need some gain. I need a budget, small all-tube practice amp and this one seems to fit the bill.

Anything I need to know about it that I may be overlooking?
#2
the 6 inch speaker is pretty limiting tbh.

which is why i suggested a discounted pro junior.

but the champ will be decent at low volumes. you probably wont be able to jam with friends (drummer) and be heard.

also the grill kinda kills some of the tone a bit.
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#3
Budget?
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#4
Quote by deepfat
Would a Champion 600 with a speaker upgrade be sufficient with the ToneLab?

why would you do that? that could wind up costing more than the pro jr and you would still have the smaller speaker.
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#5
Quote by gregs1020
why would you do that? that could wind up costing more than the pro jr and you would still have the smaller speaker.



Well, I already own the ToneLab.
#6
Quote by deepfat
Well, I already own the ToneLab.

OK, but how about your maximal budget now?
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#7
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OK, but how about your maximal budget now?


Let's say $300
#8
Quote by deepfat
Well, I already own the ToneLab.

no i meant why would you buy a 600 and then upgrade the speaker?
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#9
The Champ ain't bad running through a bigger cab and a few simple mods make it sound pretty good
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#10
Quote by gregs1020
no i meant why would you buy a 600 and then upgrade the speaker?


Oh I gotcha. Well, everything I've read suggests that you should upgrade the speaker. Nothing crazy, maybe a Jensen MOD 6-15.
#11
Any 6" speaker is going to sound like shit, a speaker upgrade is not worth the money, especially when part of the reason it sounds bad stock is the grill cloth. The only way to run te thing is through another speaker cab
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#12
What about the Vox AC4? The one with 10" speaker is 199 and I think the head and 1x12 cab is 349.
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#13
Why not get like a Blues Jr. or something? Tubes for nice tones, and you just made yourself jam-able.

What other gear do you have?
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#15
Quote by gregs1020
no i meant why would you buy a 600 and then upgrade the speaker?

i bought a jensen CH6/15 for mine. it cost £17

it was worth it since it does make the amp sound quite a lot better as a practice amp, but when the volume is cranked it still gets a bit nasal sounding, afer all, it is still only a 6" speaker. but the stock speaker is terrible.
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#16
Quote by DeathByDestroyr
Why not get like a Blues Jr. or something? Tubes for nice tones, and you just made yourself jam-able.

What other gear do you have?


I'd love to have a Blues Jr but it's a tad out of my price range.
#18
Vox ac4? I had a champ and didn't like it, the speaker really held it back, the the valves would rattle badly when it was cranked.
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#19
I knew a guy that gigged with a Champ and a 1x12 cab... It was mic'd but he got really good tone out of it...

and hell, ya can't beat an amp you can sling under your arm and carry into the club...

I'd go for it...
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#22
Quote by deepfat
I just saw a used Blues Jr on Craigslist for $300.

Good value?

Excellent. It's a bit buffer and heavier than the Pro but has drive and reverb. If it looks to be in good condition, go for it.
#23
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I just saw a used Blues Jr on Craigslist for $300.

Good value?



Good value
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#24
if you are now cool with buying used, a blues jr would be great...

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#25
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if you are now cool with buying used, a blues jr would be great...



ha
#26
My words of magic must have done the convincing.

I was liek "get a BJ" and TS was all "I can't I no has monies"
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My words of magic must have done the convincing.

I was liek "get a BJ" and TS was all "I can't I no has monies"


I found an extra 50 in my couch
#28
You don't upgrade the speaker in any Champ - you plug it into a 12" speaker cab or gtfo.
The Champ 600 is ok but needs modding to sound like a real Champ. They are pretty quiet though. They are a great practice amp and a good recording amp but taking them on-stage is a little ridiculous.
Sounds like a used BJ would suit your purposes better.
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#29
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You don't upgrade the speaker in any Champ - you plug it into a 12" speaker cab or gtfo.
The Champ 600 is ok but needs modding to sound like a real Champ. They are pretty quiet though. They are a great practice amp and a good recording amp but taking them on-stage is a little ridiculous.
Sounds like a used BJ would suit your purposes better.

Well, he used it on stage because it was all he had... it worked for him, but I'm sure he'd have picked something else if he'd have had the opportunity...

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