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#1
http://www.guitarnoize.com/fender-announce-select-series-guitars-basses/

Looks like Fender are trying to answer to the whole Suhr/Tom Anderson/etc thing with some new guitars.

They look insanely nice, I thought my next guitar was spoken for when I saw...then I looked at the price.

I think the tops look a bit weird on the basses, but the electrics look great IMO.
#2
They will probably run for round 2k-2.3k for a start and 2.8k-3k for a tele. Man...but they sure look worth of that money.
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#3
To me Fender has always been about the simplicity and the lack of flashiness. I can't stand the look of those flame tops on any of those except maybe the Teles. The patterns on the necks look absolutely terrible imo, but I can't really speak to the electronics as I haven't played them.
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#4
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To me Fender has always been about the simplicity and the lack of flashiness. I can't stand the look of those flame tops on any of those except maybe the Teles. The patterns on the necks look absolutely terrible imo, but I can't really speak to the electronics as I haven't played them.


It's pure marketing.
To be honest, they haven't gained any flashiness, they're still the simple machines they used to be. It's just that they're being catered to the current boutique "fusion" market that's being eaten up by a small number of companies (like Suhr as I mentioned), they're trying to get in on that.

It's just like the old HM Strats in the 80s, but on a pricier scale!

I find it a bit of a shame that they're trying to directly compete with the likes of Suhr, cos they could do a non-CS run of these to significantly lower the price and still end up shining, and probably with better sales than the brands they're competing with.

Not that I'd buy one of course, I'm much more into the vintage designs.
#5
Flame maple on top of Alder is a really dumb idea, unless you want a super bright, super twangy tone. If the body was mahogany with flame maple, that'd be more reasonable, but they don't say that...plus, I could have Warmoth build one just as good for half the price. Nobody pays an arm and a leg for a modern Fender, just not worth it.
#8
I can deal with figured maple necks and fretboards, but the flame top bodies? Those just look horribly tacky.
#9
Quote by ethan_hanus
Flame maple on top of Alder is a really dumb idea, unless you want a super bright, super twangy tone. If the body was mahogany with flame maple, that'd be more reasonable, but they don't say that...plus, I could have Warmoth build one just as good for half the price. Nobody pays an arm and a leg for a modern Fender, just not worth it.

Ethan, it's a drop top. It won't affect the sound much at all.
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#10
If you're gonna put a flame maple top, why have a pickguard? It covers half of the guitar's top. Seems like a bit of a waste.

While I expect these to be spectacular playing and sounding guitars, I can't say I'm especially excited about them. I like simple guitars that value function over form, which Fender have consistently been providing. This is a very different aesthetic direction. They've done this before and it didn't last. People who buy Fenders tend to be conservative.

I can see the appeal, but I wouldn't buy one.
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#12
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theres also the new johnny marr jaguar


There's the real prize here.


http://www.fender.com/products/johnnymarrjaguar
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#13
damn the strat looks so sweet!
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#14
The Tele closest to the basses looks amazings.
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#15
Quote by Reisgar42
To me Fender has always been about the simplicity and the lack of flashiness. I can't stand the look of those flame tops on any of those except maybe the Teles. The patterns on the necks look absolutely terrible imo, but I can't really speak to the electronics as I haven't played them.


Gotta agree with this guy i dislike fancy tops on fenders
#17
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I want that so much. Did I completely miss a price there or was there none listed?


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It's MSRP'd at $2400, so it'll set you back at around $1600 (ish).
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#18
Professional escorts can be pretty, too, but they aren't necessarily good investments. Meh. Snob appeal.
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#19
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+1

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#21
Quote by coolstoryangus
Haven't they done this before?


Strat Plus Elite series. very cool looking guitars. i dunno they look sharp but i don't know about the price tag. if the actual guitar doesn't have anything that would make the tone better then it's to much.
#23
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Agreed, G&L has been offering these finishes for a while yet people don't seem to pay attention to them because 'fender' isn't slapped onto them.
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#24
Quote by BlueIceBox
Agreed, G&L has been offering these finishes for a while yet people don't seem to pay attention to them because 'fender' isn't slapped onto them.


I dunno, a lot of the people here are acting a bit too "People only care about the name", but the only reason these models are being produced is cos Fender are losing out in this market that G&L and Suhr are annihilating, so it's obvious that people do pay attention to G&L...in fact if people didn't pay attention to them they'd fail as a company...which they haven't done, they've done very well...
#25
Quote by ethan_hanus
Flame maple on top of Alder is a really dumb idea, unless you want a super bright, super twangy tone. If the body was mahogany with flame maple, that'd be more reasonable, but they don't say that...plus, I could have Warmoth build one just as good for half the price. Nobody pays an arm and a leg for a modern Fender, just not worth it.

Interesting you mention Warmoth after saying this material configuration doesn't work. I've had 2 flame maple Warmoth instruments, one on swamp ash and one on alder, and I can assure you that your first statement is not true. Tonal differences due to wood selection are very subtle, rather than the glaring, in-your-face, right or wrong choice one can be led to believe on this forum. Pickup and amp choice, as well as amp EQ settings are far more important, and all can more than nullify any nuances imparted by the wood.
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#26
they are fugly. i would look for a used Suhr or Anderson.
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#27
Quote by ethan_hanus
Flame maple on top of Alder is a really dumb idea, unless you want a super bright, super twangy tone. If the body was mahogany with flame maple, that'd be more reasonable, but they don't say that...plus, I could have Warmoth build one just as good for half the price. Nobody pays an arm and a leg for a modern Fender, just not worth it.


If you think a veneer of ANY KIND has an influence on tone period, I question your intelligence and sanity. To put it nicely.
#28
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If you think a veneer of ANY KIND has an influence on tone period, I question your intelligence and sanity. To put it nicely.


+311 veneer is a thin sheet of wood that you glue on top because most people think it makes prettier, (IMO uglier more often than not). it has NO effect. a 1/4 top though will change it up a bit, but not even as much as you think. go compare the sound of a mahogany top LP vs a maple topped LP, with all else held constant. they only sound slightly different, and again as i have stated before regarding other things, you could probably EQ the difference out.
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#29
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Agreed, G&L has been offering these finishes for a while yet people don't seem to pay attention to them because 'fender' isn't slapped onto them.


The problem with G&Ls is not quality or the lack of the Fender name. The biggest thing keeping them from selling more guitars is their own production numbers. They don't make anywhere near the amount of guitars Fender does, so that can't sell that many either. It's not lack of demand, but lack of supply (well, it's kind of is lack of demand, too, but that's only because the G&L name isn't very well known).
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#30
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The problem with G&Ls is not quality or the lack of the Fender name. The biggest thing keeping them from selling more guitars is their own production numbers. They don't make anywhere near the amount of guitars Fender does, so that can't sell that many either. It's not lack of demand, but lack of supply (well, it's kind of is lack of demand, too, but that's only because the G&L name isn't very well known).

This.

Same with Suhr, Anderson, Knaggs, etc.
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#31
Kind of too over the top for me.

I'd rather get a Heavy Relic.
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#32
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Ethan, it's a drop top. It won't affect the sound much at all.


Oh, so it's just like a vernier then...that's retarded. It's like paying for a normal Fender with a fake fancy top on it, so they jack the price up. I hate Fenders marketing.


EDIT: To all the people questioning my sanity, I didn't know they used verniers, I assumed a 1/4th top on alder. I can hear the subtle differences in tone woods, but it's just mainly how well the highs will ring out, not actual tone differences.
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#33
Quote by kangaxxter
The problem with G&Ls is not quality or the lack of the Fender name. The biggest thing keeping them from selling more guitars is their own production numbers. They don't make anywhere near the amount of guitars Fender does, so that can't sell that many either. It's not lack of demand, but lack of supply (well, it's kind of is lack of demand, too, but that's only because the G&L name isn't very well known).


i don't even know where i could try a G&L anywhere around here. i would like to play one, they just aren't around. i have owned over a dozen fenders and literally have never played a G&L, but i guess maybe there was one somewhere but wasn't looking for something like a strat/tele type of guitar.
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#34
Quote by ethan_hanus
Oh, so it's just like a vernier then...that's retarded. It's like paying for a normal Fender with a fake fancy top on it, so they jack the price up. I hate Fenders marketing.


I'm going to assume that the rest of the specs are also changed to ones to suit the Suhr crowd too, it won't just be a nice veneer...

Or at least I hope it won't.
#35
Quote by ethan_hanus
Oh, so it's just like a vernier then...that's retarded. It's like paying for a normal Fender with a fake fancy top on it, so they jack the price up. I hate Fenders marketing.


EDIT: To all the people questioning my sanity, I didn't know they used verniers, I assumed a 1/4th top on alder. I can hear the subtle differences in tone woods, but it's just mainly how well the highs will ring out, not actual tone differences.


just about 100% of the time if it doesn't say 1/4" maple in the description, you can assume it is a veneer.

i don't know what is up with the questioning sanity thing, but i have been accused of it multiple times in the last few days... lol.
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#36
I wouldn't buy one.
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#37
I wouldn't cry foul about the veneer too much. Sometimes it can be really cool. Check out this Knaggs & PRS...

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#38
And here's a Fender Custom Shop with veneer on both front & back. I think it's very well made, regardless of if it suits my tastes or not. Check out how the veneers "fit" with the body contours...



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#39
Quote by trashedlostfdup
i don't even know where i could try a G&L anywhere around here. i would like to play one, they just aren't around. i have owned over a dozen fenders and literally have never played a G&L, but i guess maybe there was one somewhere but wasn't looking for something like a strat/tele type of guitar.

go here.

or call them.

Legends Guitars
4340 W Hillsborough Ave Suite 210
Tampa, FL 33614
Tel: (813) 348-0688

there may be others closer to you. i just grabbed a "tampa".

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#40
just because it's a drop top doesn't mean it's a veneer.

unless fender is specially using veneers on those guitars.

The Suhr/Andersons that are drop tops are not veneers. They are full thickness tops.

gah those fenders look like the les paul supreme of fenders.

here's some flamed maple shit or something. give us money.
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