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So due to my budget, I was shopping around for a Peavey 6505+ 112 combo and saw one at Guitar Center and played it a little. Wasn't bad. Overall a pretty good sounding amp. I was getting ready to buy it and then remembered that there was a Sam Ash a good friend of mine worked at down the road not more than a few minutes away. I thought, hey why not, and took a little ride down there. Then, out of the corner of my eye, I saw a 5150 212 listed for 800 used with a brand new set of tubes just put in. It was more than I wanted to spend though, so I talked to my pal there who always helps me out and I was able to talk it down to 500 plus tax and I couldn't be happier with it. Here it is!



First of all, this thing sounds like the apocalypse. It cuts like nobodies business and it's a tone monster. I'm new to tube amps so I'm not exactly sure what tubes would benefit it most when the current ones are shot, but the ones in it (they're Groove Tubes) aren't too bad. I heard JJ's sound great in the 5150/6505's though, so when these go, I'm probably going to get those. The clean channel is actually surprisingly good and a lot better than the clean channel on the 6505+ 112 I was considering before I stumbled upon this. It's not something to write home about but it isn't unusable like a lot of people seem to think. Even after just messing around for a few minutes with the EQ, I got a surprisingly warm tone out of it for what it is. But the real story here is obviously the Lead channel and my god... it's incredible. It's that classic 5150/6505 tone that I personally love. And holy crap is this thing loud... on 1 it's a really good volume for practicing in the basement and a little above that, and I can keep up with my brother on drums for jams. It's a workhouse and it packs a hell of a punch with a good palm mute. It's that crunchy, dirty, punchy, cutting attack that I always wanted tonally.

Other than the sound though, it's in really good shape. I completely took it apart last night when I got it to check the board and the inside to make sure everything was in working order and to clean some of the dust out and give it a general cleaning, and it's all where it needs to be. There's a few little rips in the tolex and a couple minor scratches by the switches on the metal plate up top and the metal corners, but other than that, it's in great shape. That's all expected wear in my opinion and it's minimal to say the least.

But yeah, what can be said about a 5150 that everybody already doesn't know. It does metal and hard rock like a champ, it's built like a tank, and, for me at least, the tone is what I've always wanted from a high gain amp. I absolutely love it. It's leaps and bounds better than the Bogner Spider Valve 212 I had and got rid of before it and compared to the Spider III 30 I've been playing for the last year to afford a good tube amp... doesn't even compare... it's a monster and I'm really looking forward to making it my own. On the list though is definiately a noise gate and maybe a tube screamer or OD808 because they really make a 5150/6505 scream (my friend's 6505+ sounds incredible with the added punch of his OD808). But other than that, that's what I got! Thanks guys!

P.S. If anyone has tips or things to get to improve this thing and make it that much better, let me know! Pedal recommendations, tube brands, or other general stuff would be awesome!

EDIT -
Here's just a little video of me messing around with it and playing some random stuff. From 0:31 to 2:50 in the video is the rhythm part of a song I wrote if anyone's curious (there's another video on my channel of it fully done with a GuitarPro backing track. It's called "Cherenkov Syndrome" if you're interested haha) but anyway, here's a little video I whipped up messing around with the amp. Haven't really dialed in anything perfect yet but this is what I was able to come up with tone wise in a few minutes just messing with the dials and the EQ. Also, ignore my messy basement and my awkward guitar playing faces hahaha

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUrDHxE_8xc
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Last edited by Krauser at Jan 4, 2012,
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Quote by coolstoryangus
speaker upgrade is always a good shout with pv combos


Yeah when I get the cash, I was planning on throwing a set of Vintage 30's in it. I have the money for it now, but after playing with my guitar for a little, I could use a new bridge pup for my Prestige. The DiMarzio/Ibz's are really showing off their mediocre-ness with this one haha. I'm probably going to get a D-Activator X for the bridge and leave the rest as it is because I like the tone from the neck pup... it's just the bridge pickup that's lacking punch and power.
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#6
br00talz



that is one heavy amp....in a lot of ways. I've moved and played a 6505+212.

Great review too. I would only disagree that I thought the new 112 had better cleans but hell - not a big deal with an amp like this.

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Quote by 311ZOSOVHJH
br00talz



that is one heavy amp....in a lot of ways. I've moved and played a 6505+212.

Great review too. I would only disagree that I thought the new 112 had better cleans but hell - not a big deal with an amp like this.

HN5150D


Thanks!

And oh god it's heavy... literally... it weighs a ton haha and maybe I just didn't spend enough time messing with the 112's clean when I played it and trying it in a guitar center with a bunch of people playing other amps probably didn't help out either. Also, the acoustics of my basement are better than the metal rack the 112 was on in Guitar Center
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#8
Nice amp, but your buddy sold it for what those normaly go for. I missed out on one about 9 yrs ago for $400 but I bought a Line 6 spider insted oh well Guess I learned from that
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Quote by Robbgnarly
Nice amp, but your buddy sold it for what those normaly go for. I missed out on one about 9 yrs ago for $400 but I bought a Line 6 spider insted oh well Guess I learned from that


eh I thought it was pretty good my other option was to order one online for cheap on ebay or something but then shipping came out to redonkulousness... and I don't mess with craigslist =P how's the 333 btw? I noticed it in your sig
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Glad you were able to get it for the price you wanted! Definetly better than the 112s. Maybe get a chorus pedal for the clean channel though? Regardless,

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Quote by 311ZOSOVHJH
^^ true but that is still a good price coming from Sam Ash. $300 off tag.

Yes that is true, but it is still a very nice combo reguardless.

And yes those are monstrous amps. Hope he eats Wheaties
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Quote by Robbgnarly
Yes that is true, but it is still a very nice combo reguardless.

And yes those are monstrous amps. Hope he eats Wheaties


I gotta start with how heavy this thing is but for now, it's got its nice little home in the basement next to the drum set
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#14
that is very nice, im leaning towards getting a 6505 112 myself.
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Quote by Krauser
eh I thought it was pretty good my other option was to order one online for cheap on ebay or something but then shipping came out to redonkulousness... and I don't mess with craigslist =P how's the 333 btw? I noticed it in your sig

I really like the 333, actualy I like it better than the Peavey XXX (erecting flame sheld). I only payed $425 new for it, and I really needed an amp for shows when mine blew-up. It was either the Peavey VK100 or the 333 and the 333 seemed more like what I was looking for.

And like 311 said at least your friend was looking out for you, because all the Sam Ashes I have ever been to are a rip-off on alot of gear
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Quote by Robbgnarly
I really like the 333, actualy I like it better than the Peavey XXX (erecting flame sheld). I only payed $425 new for it, and I really needed an amp for shows when mine blew-up. It was either the Peavey VK100 or the 333 and the 333 seemed more like what I was looking for.

And like 311 said at least your friend was looking out for you, because all the Sam Ashes I have ever been to are a rip-off on alot of gear


Word I know what you mean. I usually only buy used stuff online (I got my Prestige on eBay haha) but this ended up being my cheapest option. There were a few online for cheaper but with shipping it came out more expensive anyway. And yeah I was asking because I was looking at a 333XL but never got the chance to play one in person and wasn't going to buy an amp without playing it first.
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#17
Awesome amp, dude. I owned a 6505 112+ a while back, had some good times with it. Definitely look into Vintage 30's. Awesome upgrade for any amp, especially Peaveys.
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#18
Basically, that's pretty ****ing awesome TS. HNAD.
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#19
The sheer weight of that amp is why I got rid of mine.

I see yours has top handles though. Lucky. I had one of the very first ones. No top handles, nothing. I still have nightmares about moving that thing.
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I am so jealous.
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#22
Thanks for the comments guys. Here's just a little video of me messing around with it and playing some random stuff. From 0:31 to 2:50 in the video is the rhythm part of a song I wrote if anyone's curious (there's another video on my channel of it fully done with a GuitarPro backing track. It's called "Cherenkov Syndrome" if you're interested haha) but anyway, here's a little video I whipped up messing around with the amp. Haven't really dialed in anything perfect yet but this is what I was able to come up with tone wise in a few minutes just messing with the dials and the EQ. Also, ignore my messy basement and my awkward guitar playing faces hahaha

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUrDHxE_8xc
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Last edited by Krauser at Jan 4, 2012,
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Quote by Krauser
Thanks for the comments guys. Here's just a little video of me messing around with it and playing some random stuff. From 0:31 to 2:50 in the video is the rhythm part of a song I wrote if anyone's curious (there's another video on my channel of it fully done with a GuitarPro backing track. It's called "Cherenkov Syndrome" if you're interested haha) but anyway, here's a little video I whipped up messing around with the amp. Haven't really dialed in anything perfect yet but this is what I was able to come up with tone wise in a few minutes just messing with the dials and the EQ. Also, ignore my messy basement and my awkward guitar playing faces hahaha

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUrDHxE_8xc


Sounds like a 5150, grats
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Quote by 311ZOSOVHJH
cool riff and i wish my fingers were that long


thats funny dude. but yeaha wesome riff.
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Quote by 311ZOSOVHJH
cool riff and i wish my fingers were that long

Thanks and yeah, I guess I do have long fingers
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Sounds like a 5150, grats

Not sure if being sarcastic but yeah I like the tone of a 5150/6505... so it better sound like a 5150!
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Quote by Krauser
Thanks and yeah, I guess I do have long fingers

Not sure if being sarcastic but yeah I like the tone of a 5150/6505... so it better sound like a 5150!


I use to own one, it's pretty good for what it is, if you are after that br00tz/metalcore type tone.
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Quote by Guitarbaddie
I use to own one, it's pretty good for what it is, if you are after that br00tz/metalcore type tone.

I mostly play metal and write metal/hard rock with the occasional clean stuff. So this amp is pretty much all I need. That said, the clean channel leaves a little to be desired. Of course I would love to own a Mesa or ENGL but I just don't have that kind of money. That said, I like the tone I've been getting out of this for metal better than anything I've been able to get out of the Mesa's I've tried. Don't get me wrong, they're excellent amps and they're waaaay more versatile but I pretty much found the tone that suits me with this amp. The only amp I've played that has a high gain tone I might prefer to this is the ENGL Invader but I just can't afford that and it's not exactly feasible for me personally haha so, for now, this is the best amp for what I've been looking for.
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Quote by Krauser
I mostly play metal and write metal/hard rock with the occasional clean stuff. So this amp is pretty much all I need. That said, the clean channel leaves a little to be desired. Of course I would love to own a Mesa or ENGL but I just don't have that kind of money. That said, I like the tone I've been getting out of this for metal better than anything I've been able to get out of the Mesa's I've tried. Don't get me wrong, they're excellent amps and they're waaaay more versatile but I pretty much found the tone that suits me with this amp. The only amp I've played that has a high gain tone I might prefer to this is the ENGL Invader but I just can't afford that and it's not exactly feasible for me personally haha so, for now, this is the best amp for what I've been looking for.


It's cool, 500 for a 5150 2x12 is a killer deal IMO.

Doesn't really get better than that
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Quote by Krauser
Thanks and yeah, I guess I do have long fingers


There is a lot of stuff I struggle to play (can't play) because I have have short fingers.


v....ha ha, yeah that is good motivation
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HNAD


As for tubescreamers:

Thanks man and I've never actually used a Green Rhino but I've heard good things. My girlfriend's getting me a belated Christmas/birthday (birthday's the 26th of December haha) and she wanted to get me a pedal for the amp so maybe I'll swing it past her I'm just curious what I should be getting first. I was thinking I should be spending money on a decent noise gate before I get an overdrive though...
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#34
Well, you do really need a noise gate with a 5150. The noise was why I was never tempted to buy one and noise gates were pretty crappy back then. Get yourself a Decimator first.
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#35
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Well, you do really need a noise gate with a 5150. The noise was why I was never tempted to buy one and noise gates were pretty crappy back then. Get yourself a Decimator first.

The noise/feedback isn't as bad as I was expecting with my 5150 but it's definitely something I want to eliminate before I start jacking it up with a tubscreamer. I was thinking about an MXR SmartGate personally. Then again, the pedal game is new to me as is the tube amp world. This is the first tube ample I've truly owned besides the Spider Valve 212 I had, and that had a bunch of stuff like a gate in it already and effects out the ass that I never really used.
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#36
Nobody buys an amp like that for cleans anyways. Maybe an intro now and then.

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#37
Quote by Offworld92
The sheer weight of that amp is why I got rid of mine.

I see yours has top handles though. Lucky. I had one of the very first ones. No top handles, nothing. I still have nightmares about moving that thing.


This. My old 6505 was a real back-breaker. It was almost as bad as trying to pick up my buddy's Fender Twin. And keep in mind, it was a 112, vs. the Twin's 212. I moved back to half-stack territory just so I wouldn't have that problem. More to carry around, sure, but easier to pick up.
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#38
Quite some time ago somebody invented a thing called a trolley. You guys may want to investigate that.
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#39
^Is that all you ever talk about is your trolley?



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#40


It just amazes me that people are lugging these big amps around by hand. It's stupid and unnecessary.
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