Page 1 of 2
#1
About 3 months ago a friend of mine let me borrow his guitar to repaint it, repair it, and replace the floyd on it. EASILY more work than the guitar was worth.

I left it at my uncles house (thats where I painted it) overnight to dry, and I went back the next day and it was gone.

Now he's harrassing me about paying him back the cost of the guitar, or else he'll take me to small claims court.

I want to reimburse him for the guitar, only problem is I don't have money or a job to do so with.

What do I do?


Quote by Saint78
Jackal is like 90.

Quote by Jackal58
Buy stock in Viagra. Imma gonna fuck you in the ass.
#2
Uuuuuhhhh, ask your uncle what the hell happened to the guitar?
BOOM-SHAKALAKALAKA-BOOM-SHAKALAKUNGA
#8
Block him on facebook.
Quote by SG_dave at #33549256
I've never wanted to see a guy eat dick so much in my life.
Quote by ali.guitarkid7 at #33553650
If you are white, you are scum.
#9
Quote by snipelfritz
Uuuuuhhhh, ask your uncle what the hell happened to the guitar?


His house got broken into, all his music gear was stolen, his front window shattered, and all of his electronics taken as well


Quote by Saint78
Jackal is like 90.

Quote by Jackal58
Buy stock in Viagra. Imma gonna fuck you in the ass.
#10
Cut your wrists. That blows, man.
I hope the paintjob was sick as shit.
My sig? Nice.
Last edited by BurningTurkey at Jan 4, 2012,
#11
get rid of that punk*ss friend
your whisper may sway the weak, but when i speak it roars the seas
#12
That sucks man. Tell your friend the situation and let him know that you'll pay him back over time. It's not like he NEEDS a guitar to get by. You do owe him cost - depreciation for his guitar for losing it though. If he doesn't understand, break his legs and make him understand.
Quote by denizenz
I'll logic you right in the thyroid.

Art & Lutherie
#13
fk this guy, he ain't your friend.
Hugging Thread; I'm here to help


Oh you wouldn’t want an angel watching over
Surprise, surprise they wouldn’t wannna watch
Another uninnocent, elegant fall
Into the unmagnificent lives of adults


It's Tessa, not Tesse please.
#16
Please tell me that your uncle has an insurance policy?
You want some more seeneyj hate? WELL YOU CAN'T HAVE IT

You're all a bunch of f*cking slaves! - Jim Morrison

UG Awards
1st: Biggest Ego
1st: Most Likely To Become Famous
1st: Most Pretentious User
#17
Maybe you should talk to a lawyer instead of an internet forum full of teenagers. See what I did there? I made you look like a moron.

Also, screw you and your epileptic avatar.--^
#18
I'm assuming that there was no formal written contract, but an implied, oral one. Since you borrowed the guitar, on your own request, it is a lease of movable property. Indeed, the lease-amount or the compensation to be paid for this lease is your repair work.

Be warned that even though the borrowing could be interpreted as purely a maintenance job, it is important that you tell me the condition the guitar was in, wheter it was playable, and what your compensation was for the repair.

Although you are responsible for the safety of the guitar during the course of your keeping, this safety is to be exercised in "a reasonable and prudent manner". It was, from the facts, reasonable on your part to leave the guitar to dry overnight, where it was painted.

These are just a few inferences but you need to answer the aforementioned questions (bolded) and also describe your Uncle's role in this whole matter.

Then we can talk about ways out of this mess.

Shattedit- I just saw the part about your uncle's house getting broken into.

Ok, so it was clear that inspite of your reasonable care, the guitar got stolen because of circumstances unseen and unpreventable.

There are two ways out of this.

One, an out of court settlement where you will have to arrange a portion of the house insurance that your uncle hopefully has.

Otherwise you will have to pay back the amount as a debt, but I advice against this.Its simply not equitable.

The second way, is to go to court and present your case of reasonable care along with the implied terms of the agreement. This case may or may not favor you. But in the light of the facts may be worth a shot.

Now, I would advice you to meet a local jurisdiction lawyer if you choose the latter option.

However, its never nice to go to court so you should definitely get an out of court settlement.

or...as we saw later in this thread...


BLOWJOB!
Quote by thanksgiving
I'm coming for you with a castrator!
You sick bastard.



Watch that video below

If this video reaches 1000 views before Christmas, I'll play with my titties on cam.

Last edited by shattamakar at Jan 4, 2012,
#20
Reading the above posts it is easy to see what you should do.
Giraffe man had it spot on
RIP Gooze

cats
#21
You owe him a guitar, give him one of yours until you can pay him for his
Such is posting in Soviet Russia
#22
Quote by giraffe man
Give him a blowjob

This
Quote by lambofgod127
btw im in hs and im almost 18 so if u do think she was flirting with me dont say that its wrong im almost a grown man.




༼ ▀̿Ĺ̯▀̿ ̿ ༽ WE ARE ROB ༼ ▀̿Ĺ̯▀̿ ̿ ༽
#24
Quote by shattamakar


Be warned that even though the borrowing could be interpreted as purely a maintenance job, it is important that you tell me the condition the guitar was in, wheter it was playable, and what your compensation was for the repair.




Not sure if the answers to this are still relevant, but the condition the guitar was in,
-completely trashed paintjob
-No bridge or nut, pickups needed rewiring
-Had to do a complete refret
-And it was a favour, but he insisted he pay me at least 50$, which he never did due to him not getting the guitar back.

He's being completly unreasonable right now. I've explained to him the situation, he thinks it's my fault the guitar got stolen; and he is unwilling to allow me to pay it off over time. He wants all the money upfront, and quite frankly I really don't think that is fair to me. It isn't my fault it got stolen you know?


Quote by Saint78
Jackal is like 90.

Quote by Jackal58
Buy stock in Viagra. Imma gonna fuck you in the ass.
Last edited by Scowmoo at Jan 4, 2012,
#25
Quote by CL/\SH
Block him on facebook.

This made me laugh pretty hard. Just how it went from court action, to buttler to this nicely played.
#26
Quote by Scowmoo
I really don't think that is fair to me. It isn't my fault it got stolen you know?


Its not his either, but if you haven't got the money then i doubt he'll waste time and money taking you to court (unless you end up on Judge Judy...)

was it an expensive guitar?
Such is posting in Soviet Russia
#27
Quote by mulefish
Reading the above posts it is easy to see what you should do.
Giraffe man had it spot on

you guys are hilarious!

It seems from your description of the guitars condition he doesn't play guitar or take care of his guitars. If he needs a guitar let him borrow one of yours until you can settle the dispute. Does your uncle have insurance or something to cover the stolen property? This guy is acting like a Dick bro, I hope it works out
#28
I hope you've put out ads (on craigslist and etc.) detailing all the stuff that's been stolen. People rarely intend to keep stuff from thefts like this. Someone the thief might try to sell to could see the ad.
#29
Quote by jrcsgtpeppers
you guys are hilarious!

It seems from your description of the guitars condition he doesn't play guitar or take care of his guitars. If he needs a guitar let him borrow one of yours until you can settle the dispute. Does your uncle have insurance or something to cover the stolen property? This guy is acting like a Dick bro, I hope it works out


Well apparently the guitar was a gift to him from a friend or something, he got it like that.

And nope, if my uncle did this would be an issue As for letting him borrow one of my guitars, no can do. I let him borrow my xbox once and it came back completely broken. I will never let him borrow anything.

Also..blowjobs


Quote by Saint78
Jackal is like 90.

Quote by Jackal58
Buy stock in Viagra. Imma gonna fuck you in the ass.
#30
Quote by Scowmoo

Not sure if the answers to this are still relevant, but the condition the guitar was in,
-completely trashed paintjob
-No bridge or nut, pickups needed rewiring
-Had to do a complete refret
-And it was a favour.


Fair enough.

The odds are in your favor my friend, the lease angle does not come into the picture anymore.

This simplifies matters substantially, making way for an equitable out of court settlement that you could negotiate with him.

But another warning is that your "friend" wants to take you to court regarding a guitar:

1) Which was being modified and repaired without compensation.
2) Which was taken from your possession by no fault of yours
3) Wherein the overall value of the guitar was exponentially increased by your uncompensated efforts, to the point where its initial value was probably exceeded by your added value.

So, remember, this guy may just take you to court but you have a solid case as to why you should at the very least be entitled to a fat monetary compensation for your work. You may have to offer evidence to show nature and extent of your work, but I'm sure that will work out in the natural course of the ostensible case.

In summation, yeah, you have a good case if he is foolish enough to take you to court. If he doesn't, explain the situation and offer to somehow pay him the cost of the guitar minus the work you did on it.
Quote by thanksgiving
I'm coming for you with a castrator!
You sick bastard.



Watch that video below

If this video reaches 1000 views before Christmas, I'll play with my titties on cam.

#31
Quote by Scowmoo
Well apparently the guitar was a gift to him from a friend or something, he got it like that.

And nope, if my uncle did this would be an issue As for letting him borrow one of my guitars, no can do. I let him borrow my xbox once and it came back completely broken. I will never let him borrow anything.

Also..blowjobs


SUE HIS PUSSY-FACE IN!!!!
Quote by thanksgiving
I'm coming for you with a castrator!
You sick bastard.



Watch that video below

If this video reaches 1000 views before Christmas, I'll play with my titties on cam.

#32
This guy sounds like an asshole, tell him that it makes up for the time he broke your xbox. From the sounds of it the xbox would probably be worth more than the guitar
#33
Tell your friend to get over the loss of his guitar by training his body and mind to understand the criminal mentality, and stop other crimes relating to guitar theft.

Play your cards right and you could create a guitar themed Batman.
#34
Quote by Scowmoo
Well apparently the guitar was a gift to him from a friend or something, he got it like that.

And nope, if my uncle did this would be an issue As for letting him borrow one of my guitars, no can do. I let him borrow my xbox once and it came back completely broken. I will never let him borrow anything.

Also..blowjobs


What a cunt!
#36
Quote by Novacane...
You lot are so predictable. Rimjob is where it's at.

Quote by lambofgod127
btw im in hs and im almost 18 so if u do think she was flirting with me dont say that its wrong im almost a grown man.




༼ ▀̿Ĺ̯▀̿ ̿ ༽ WE ARE ROB ༼ ▀̿Ĺ̯▀̿ ̿ ༽
#37
Quote by Scowmoo
As for letting him borrow one of my guitars, no can do. I let him borrow my xbox once and it came back completely broken. I will never let him borrow anything.

I believe we have an answer, TS.

Give an extremely long and annoying speech about karma.

Edit: I don't know how the small claims court works where you live, but where I live, apparently there's a lot of paper work and it's troublesome as hell.

He won't go through with it.
#38
ANY court-case is troublesome as hell. Believe me.

And the fool will not pay a lawyer to do his shit for him. He's just playing you, man.

Take him to a food-court, and belt him with a steak.
Quote by thanksgiving
I'm coming for you with a castrator!
You sick bastard.



Watch that video below

If this video reaches 1000 views before Christmas, I'll play with my titties on cam.

#39
Quote by shattamakar
ANY court-case is troublesome as hell. Believe me.

And the fool will not pay a lawyer to do his shit for him. He's just playing you, man.

Take him to a food-court, and belt him with a steak.

#40
He is just bluffing man... hr will never go that far.
Even so... it's a friend you have already lost (but screw him).
Gear:
MXR Super Badass -->
BOSS SD WAZA -->
FENDER CD 140 SCE -->
MXR M300 REVERB -->
TC ELECTRONIC FLASHBACK
ESP EC 401 VF TSB -->
BOSS KATANA HEAD 100 WATT -->
MILF Tease
Page 1 of 2