Poll: Did you say the Pledge of Allegiance?
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View poll results: Did you say the Pledge of Allegiance?
Yes
49 25%
No
53 27%
Did not practice where I'm from
93 48%
Voters: 195.
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#1
Curious to know. I don't know if any other countries outside of the States worship a flag every morning. After I learned about the rights complex I probably said it once or twice in high school.

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#2
No, but I take a pledge to uphold glorious socialism with all my comrades every morning.
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#3
I heard that bud.
So I heard it's wicked cold outside. And stuff
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#4
It's 7*c which is remarkably warm. It's also sunny outside making me unsure if this is Sweden or not...

OT: I've never taken it and the whole idea seems really weird. Like it's north korea or something...
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#5
eh, nobody does. In middle school I was cutting edge when I felt too lazy to say it. Now, nobody says it.
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#6
I opt out of saying it in school for 3 reasons

1. separation of church and state and the inclusion of "under god". secular government.
2. my first period teacher is an arrogant christian bitch.
3. im a lazy bastard, hence not capitalizing these sentences.
#7
Not practised where i'm from. The whole notion seems somewhat frivolous to me.
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#8
I stopped saying the pledge after we learned about jingoism in my 9th grade social studies class.

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#9
I've been listening to my friend rant about ron paul and how mark zuckerburg was awarded some special medal from the CIA for creating a surveillance for them too long It got me thinking if anyone else was rebellious.

But I guess it's because of issues with the first amendment and the container of God in the monologue. I'm all for our schools encouraging open minded thinking and whatnot, I'm glad no one ever forced it on me after I was like... No.

Also I just realized I spelled allegiance wrong in the OT. I'll fix it later
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#10
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I've been listening to my friend rant about ron paul and how mark zuckerburg was awarded some special medal from the CIA for creating a surveillance for them too long It got me thinking if anyone else was rebellious.

But I guess it's because of issues with the first amendment and the container of God in the monologue. I'm all for our schools encouraging open minded thinking and whatnot, I'm glad no one ever forced it on me after I was like... No.

Also I just realized I spelled allegiance wrong in the OT. I'll fix it later


Well you could always say the original pledge before 'under god' was added in i suppose.
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#11
No it's gay.

Okay, I did. As a little kid, like it was intended. Adults saying it is pretty funny.
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#12
Yes. I went to school in the 70's and 80's (graduated in '84). Everyone did back then.
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#13
they dont do it here but i wouldnt if they did. its seems a bit like fascist indoctrination tbh
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#14
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It's 7*c which is remarkably warm. It's also sunny outside making me unsure if this is Sweden or not...

OT: I've never taken it and the whole idea seems really weird. Like it's north korea or something...

its -9C by me right now. My room has no heat.

I haven't said it since at least 8th grade.

My highschool had a CCTV thing where every morning they'd do news about the school. It was run by the TV class. When I was in it, we were supposed to film ourselves reciting it so it could be run in the morning. Since we were getting graded on it, I had to do it, but I left out 'under god'. Mine never got played.
#15
I know this happens in some schools in America, and I find it rather weird and even a bit indoctrinating. I'm from the Netherlands, and this never happens here. I believe everyone should be able to make the choice to be patriotic.
#16
Never heard of this before...

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#17
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Well you could always say the original pledge before 'under god' was added in i suppose.

And stir up one hell of a shitstorm. People are really touchy about that part for some reason.
#18
No, because I'm an atheist. I worship neither god nor state.


The whole thing sickens me. I was working at a fair here in Ohio last year, and damn-near everyone froze in their tracks, took off their hats and put their hands on their heart during it. I laughed and went about my business... I don't mean any disrespect, but I don't feel it is my job to participate in a ritual based on my geological location. I find that I prefer Canada, and especially Japan. As much as I love Japan, though, I wouldn't say their pledge of allegiance (if they had one)... State worship is for Jangoists.

I remember people getting butt-hurt in the past over my not participating in it (I even thought it was stupid as a kid). But that's their problem, isn't it? It seems people accept the premise of freedom in the country, except when it comes to their narrow-minded nationalistic notions.

The beauty and irony of it all is that the most nationalistic and religiously American people are Christians. So much for avoiding idol-worship and other gods before them, huh? There's even batshit crazy rules about "If an American flag touches the ground, it must be burned!" and stuff like that. What a JOKE.
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#19
Nope. The only real 'patriotism' you'd find in the UK is either the racist EDL or the ****ing right wing royalists.
#20
I was so edgy in middle school I used to pledge with my back to the flag to symbolize that I personally felt America needed a 180 degree change in foreign policy I also used to leave out "of the United States of America" to show my belief that we should separate nation and state.
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#21
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There's even batshit crazy rules about "If an American flag touches the ground, it must be burned!" and stuff like that. What a JOKE.

If you get upset over the flag code you either:

-Live an extremely privileged life to be able to even care about it
-Need to stop getting upset over everything.

It is almost never enforced, and it only applies to the federal government anyway.
#22
I used to say the pledge of allegiance all the time in high school. Didn't bother me i take pride in this country, come at me.
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#23
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If you get upset over the flag code you either:

-Live an extremely privileged life to be able to even care about it
-Need to stop getting upset over everything.

It is almost never enforced, and it only applies to the federal government anyway.

If you make up such rules in the first place, you must either:
-Live an extremely privileged life to be able to even care about it
-Need to stop getting upset over everything.

Not completely disagreeing with you, just saying.
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#24
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If you get upset over the flag code you either:

-Live an extremely privileged life to be able to even care about it
-Need to stop getting upset over everything.

It is almost never enforced, and it only applies to the federal government anyway.


Hmm... it's not as black or white as you seem to suggest. To say that I live a privileged life would be a joke. And, I'm not upset about it. It's just dumb. Sorry if my opinion bothers you.

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#29
I don't remember it being said in high school in the 90s. We did in middle school though I was often late anyways and missed it.
#30
I did when I lived in america

My teacher was awesome so she didn't make us say the part about one nation under god
She changed it to "one nation, intelligent and strong, with liberty and justice for all"
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#31
Did anyone go to a school where it was enforced? Isn't that a bit contradictory to the whole "freedom" thing you guys keep saying you're the best at?


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#32
It was never enforced. There were questions and criticisms (or whatever that other C word is) but nobody ever ripped my trachea out and replaced it with a smokers box hooked up to a 4 track with the pledge of allegiance on it...
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#33
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Did anyone go to a school where it was enforced? Isn't that a bit contradictory to the whole "freedom" thing you guys keep saying you're the best at?


In my past schools you had to at least stand up, when the pledge was read in the mornings. Even if you didn't put your hand over your heart and/or recite the pledge. I guess it seems a bit forced, now that I think back
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#34
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Did anyone go to a school where it was enforced? Isn't that a bit contradictory to the whole "freedom" thing you guys keep saying you're the best at

There wasn't a school policy, so it depended on who your homeroom teacher was. Two I had got really pissy about it, but I didn't care. One was a fat whore and the other wasn't even a real teacher.

And yep, no heat. My room is in the basement, no heat ducts.
#38
Nope, and when I moved to a new high school, one of my teachers was so pissed off and was yelling at me to stand, saying I had to stand. I just looked at her with a blank face.
#39
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