#1
Im literally at the end!!!! AAAAAARRR


all I want to do is record guitar To PC and monitor it with ZERO latency. I mean literally Zero. I use my Line6 UX2 (its a specialised guitar audio interface) for vocals but the 0.01% of guitar latency is still too much for the type of music I play, so I brought an amp just now, tried to stick a 2-in-1 adaptor into the headphone port so I can listen with headphones while the other end goes into my PC/UX2, but it seems the amp does not like this, and cuts out the sound when both wires go in! I don't know WHAT to do. Someone mentioned that you can get amps with a 'slave' port, whatever that means. Is there any way around this? (also I need to hear a backing track while I record, but virtually all amps can do that)


Can I record a clean guitar tone from an amp into my PC (no mics, i have neighbours), while monitoring the dang sound????

anything i should buy/tips/tricks?


cheers

ps. my budget for any new hardware is sort of £100 max...($170)
if a new amp, effects would be nice but not essential seeing as i can add them in post production
#2
What amp do you have? You could try plugging your guitar in using a usb interface, and using guitar software, such as Revalver or something of the like.
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#4
Plug the preamp out/effects send from the amp into your interface. You shouldn't be recording from the headphone out.

Sounds to me like you just have the UX2's buffer set up improperly, which is causing an audible latency, or your computer isn't powerful enough to support low enough latency, though.

Quote by guitarocker100
Ya if you wanted to invest a little money you should try to get an interface and a software like Guitar Rig or something.

Why?

He already has an interface that is quite capable of getting good results, and comes with POD Farm. The interface and software are not the problem here.
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#5
latency is inherent, but try adjusting your buffer settings in both your daw and any software you're using
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#6
Plug the preamp out/effects send from the amp into your interface. You shouldn't be recording from the headphone out.


The amp I just bought, a 'Cort' for £89, doesnt seem to have a preamp out/effets port on it....only the 'In', 'CD In', and 'Headphones'.

Sounds to me like you just have the UX2's buffer set up improperly, which is causing an audible latency, or your computer isn't powerful enough to support low enough latency, though.


UX2 buffer is set on the recommended second lowest setting. If I try the lowest, it clips to the point of literally no audio. My PC is decent, Quad Core processor, recent machine.

Even the UX2 guys admit you can't get ZERO latency from their product anyway.
That's what I need, hence why I think the only option is using a real amp. I just need some kind of trick to monitor it, or buy an amp with the ports to do so..
#7
I was on the cliff too. The short answer for all my clicks, pops, latency and other weirdness was an i7 machine.
#8
Quote by poshbloke
The amp I just bought, a 'Cort' for £89, doesnt seem to have a preamp out/effets port on it....only the 'In', 'CD In', and 'Headphones'.

Then you need a mic, or stick with DI input with amp simulators. They will sound better than that Cort, anyway.

Quote by poshbloke
UX2 buffer is set on the recommended second lowest setting. If I try the lowest, it clips to the point of literally no audio. My PC is decent, Quad Core processor, recent machine.

Even the UX2 guys admit you can't get ZERO latency from their product anyway.
That's what I need, hence why I think the only option is using a real amp. I just need some kind of trick to monitor it, or buy an amp with the ports to do so..

It's impossible to get "zero latency" on even the most expensive digital interfaces. You can get it low, but there will always be some latency. Zero latency monitoring can be achieved with some interfaces, by means of analogue circuits built in, but with your setup, the amount you should be getting, shouldn't be noticeable at all.

What DAW are you using? Your computer seems capable, so I'd check to make sure whatever DAW your using has the buffer size, sample rate, etc. set the same as it is on your UX2.

There's no way that .01% latency is enough for you to notice it.
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#9
Edit: Just read someone elses thread that to get zero latency, use your amp and buy a Mixer, & monitor through the mixer...is this true?
#10
Quote by poshbloke
Edit: Just read someone elses thread that to get zero latency, use your amp and buy a Mixer, & monitor through the mixer...is this true?

Yes, but it can get pretty expensive for a good system.
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#11
so If I buy a cheap mixer (cos i only need like 2 channels), I can run the amp - into mixer- into audio interface - into PC....and as long as I monitor thru the mixer headphones, there will be no latency whatsoever??

If so, I'll do that!
#12
Not neccasarily... Your computer might simply not be up to the task. The line in on computers is never good for latency. A USB mixer would work, but you need a powerful computer.
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#13
Not neccasarily... Your computer might simply not be up to the task. The line in on computers is never good for latency. A USB mixer would work, but you need a powerful computer.


But surely seeing as it goes: Guitar- amp - mixer (monitor thru phones) - audio interface - PC,
I'd be monitoring the signal, live, before it even hits the PC....wouldn't that be zero latency?

i know there may be tiny delay on the RECORDING, i can adjust that in post production, but surely this method would let me hear my guitar playing, utterly latency free, allowing me to play perfectly in time - which is the whole problem I'm having
Last edited by poshbloke at Jan 7, 2012,