#1

I was think today about this so bear with me.

we know time is not a constant but rather a variable and we know time can be bent.so let's say it will take 6 light years to get from point "A" to point "B".traveling at the speed of light it would take 6 years to reach your destination.So could you bend time to where the distance you actually have to travel is shorter making is seem as though you are actually just traveling faster.also there is an infinite amount of numbers meaning there are an infinite amount of degrees you could bend time making it so were you could arrive at your destination seemingly instantaneously AKA teleportation.

So am i on to something or am I crazy?

we know time is not a constant but rather a variable and we know time can be bent.so let's say it will take 6 light years to get from point "A" to point "B".traveling at the speed of light it would take 6 years to reach your destination.So could you bend time to where the distance you actually have to travel is shorter making is seem as though you are actually just traveling faster.also there is an infinite amount of numbers meaning there are an infinite amount of degrees you could bend time making it so were you could arrive at your destination seemingly instantaneously AKA teleportation.

So am i on to something or am I crazy?

#2

It's ALWAYS bending time

#3

#4

It's as easy as bending a noodle.

#5

You could even use that infinite amount of NEGATIVE numbers to arrive instantaneously before you arrived, and arrive again to double your enjoyment!

#6

You could even use that infinite amount of NEGATIVE numbers to arrive instantaneously before you arrived, and arrive again to double your enjoyment!

How about we just invent the Heart of Gold drive, and put it in a ship.

#7

wasn't this the entire point of Back to the Future or something?

#8

Lay off the drugs TS.

#9

How about we just invent the Heart of Gold drive, and put it in a ship.

The Heart of Gold

**IS**the ship, idiot.

**>:C NERDRAGE**

#10

as you move faster through space you move more slowly through time so if you go the speed of light you would need infinite energy for you who have mass to go that fast which the finite universe doesn't have and time would stand still if you were going the speed of light.

#11

Designating a specific time to just use bends in your music is silly.

#12

The Heart of GoldISthe ship, idiot.>:C NERDRAGE

was just about to post that when i saw your comment :p

#13

I was think today about this so bear with me.

we know time is not a constant but rather a variable and we know time can be bent.so let's say it will take 6 light years to get from point "A" to point "B".traveling at the speed of light it would take 6 years to reach your destination.So could you bend time to where the distance you actually have to travel is shorter making is seem as though you are actually just traveling faster.also there is an infinite amount of numbers meaning there are an infinite amount of degrees you could bend time making it so were you could arrive at your destination seemingly instantaneously AKA teleportation.

So am i on to something or am I crazy?

Logic. You are missing it.

Also, nothing can travel faster than light, so no. Just no.

#14

as you move faster through space you move more slowly through time so if you go the speed of light you would need infinite energy for you who have mass to go that fast which the finite universe doesn't have and time would stand still if you were going the speed of light.

This

But to use the creative side of my brain

All you have to do is enter the 4th dimension. All you have to do is travel inward, using a fractal like rout into the 4th dimension. Then you can just pop out anywhere you want in the universe. It's like going thru the earth rather than around.

#15

Logic. You are missing it.Also, nothing can travel faster than light, so no. Just no.

DEBATABLE

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2011/nov/18/neutrinos-still-faster-than-light

#16

Molecular disintegration under pressure high enough to heat those atoms into light based particles why travel by way of said force, which now exerts high multiples of the original force that acts as a mechanism for propulsion is clearly the only answer here.

#17

I'm not talking about traveling faster than the speed of light but something similar to what jrcsgtpeppers is saying.If you were trying to go to the opposite side of the earth and you just went straight through the earth it would SEEM as though you went at a faster rate of speed but in reality you just went a shorter distance

#18

I'm not talking about traveling faster than the speed of light but something similar to what jrcsgtpeppers is saying.If you were trying to go to the opposite side of the earth and you just went straight through the earth it would SEEM as though you went at a faster rate of speed but in reality you just went a shorter distance

just on this... if i walk a full circle around my house, then i walk back through my house(theoretically strait through)

I wouldn't go as far as to say i was travelling faster, or even that it would seem as if i was travelling faster

#19

just on this... if i walk a full circle around my house, then i walk back through my house(theoretically strait through)

I wouldn't go as far as to say i was travelling faster, or even that it would seem as if i was travelling faster

but you would reach the other side of your house in a shorter amount of time right?That is what i am trying to get at.

#20

What if the neutrino went faster than light in relation to us but to it it took longer and now lives in another dimension?

#21

Yeah, sure. Let me know when you figure it out

#22

Did someone say bending time?

(Since Dreadnought beat me to the joke I wanted to do)

(Since Dreadnought beat me to the joke I wanted to do)

#23

Lay off the drugs TS.

Lay off the unoriginal comments damian_91.

#24

Lay off the drugs TS.

/thread

#25

Bend Time you say?

#26

You could just change the time on your clock once you get there.

#27

Scientists in Europe are working on making electron sized black holes. It sounds like dangerous business but if we can study them enough to learn about how wormholes and if they even exist, im sure we can "fold" space and create a wormhole on either side of the fold to make distances shorter. I highly doubt we will ever get to light speed travel though. But who knows... could cavemen even comprehend the technology we have today?

#28

Bend light, then the speed of light is left to your will.

#29

Bleh. Im not gonna sleep tonight anyway, so give me a few minutes to explain why something like the TS's 'idea' is possible.

I'll be back with pictures.

I'll be back with pictures.

#30

Watch Event Horizon and realise this is a bad idea.

#31

OK.

First: time is in itself not a distinct definition. Spacetime is a better one, where space and time are woven together. Manipulate one, you manipulate the other.

Second: we define out our universe is shaped. There is evidence that the universe is not simply 4-dimensional as relativity predicts, but is some higher (N>4)-dimensional. If this were true, it becomes easier to think of it as our 4-dimensional universe wrapped around the (N>4)-dimension. To us, this would make no observable difference in how we see the universe. Picture how we view the Earth: we know it is a 3-dimensional sphere, but to us on the surface, it appears 2-dimensional. Likewise, the universe, could be (N>4)-dimensional, but to us on the surface it appears 4-dimensional.

Third: The speed of light is immutable. It is a fundamental constant. There is no changing that.

So what is changeable? The energy density at a point in spacetime. Energy warps spacetime.

This, in turn, causes time to move at different rates in these pockets of warped time. But this is irrelevant to what I'm saying.

In the normal view of a "flat" 4 dimensional universe, the universe seems to be bent into nothing. Which makes no sense. However, in the (N>4) view of the universe, the universe could be said to be bending into the higher dimensions. If this were true, then things like this could happen:

This is a diagram of our universe, bent around a higher dimension. To us, on the "surface" of it, it will always appear 4-dimensional. In this model, an even occurs, and the information from that event travels away from it at the speed of light. We know an event occurs when the light reaches us, so in effect, we are always looking into the past.

Now. The grey lines represent a link in the universe of two points, through the higher-dimensional space. This could theoretically be accomplished by increasing the energy density of a point until the universe breaks through at another point. In this example, the two points, the event E, and the observer O, effectively occupy the same (undefined) point in space. Any action by either one will be instantaneously observed by the other.

The orange lines represent a link in a point sometime in the future of E, and in the past of O. Any information about E could enter this point, and arrive at O before it should, and before other information. It will essentially have time-traveled into its own future.

The purple lines represent a link in the future of O, and in the past of E. At this point in time, O will already know what has happened at E. However, by looking at this point, E will also be able to see what happened before E, instantly. In this example, we could see, for instance, a star expanding and exploding before the light from that explosion reaches us.

There's a whole lot of practical issues with doing any of this, but it is mostly theoretically sound.

First: time is in itself not a distinct definition. Spacetime is a better one, where space and time are woven together. Manipulate one, you manipulate the other.

Second: we define out our universe is shaped. There is evidence that the universe is not simply 4-dimensional as relativity predicts, but is some higher (N>4)-dimensional. If this were true, it becomes easier to think of it as our 4-dimensional universe wrapped around the (N>4)-dimension. To us, this would make no observable difference in how we see the universe. Picture how we view the Earth: we know it is a 3-dimensional sphere, but to us on the surface, it appears 2-dimensional. Likewise, the universe, could be (N>4)-dimensional, but to us on the surface it appears 4-dimensional.

Third: The speed of light is immutable. It is a fundamental constant. There is no changing that.

So what is changeable? The energy density at a point in spacetime. Energy warps spacetime.

This, in turn, causes time to move at different rates in these pockets of warped time. But this is irrelevant to what I'm saying.

In the normal view of a "flat" 4 dimensional universe, the universe seems to be bent into nothing. Which makes no sense. However, in the (N>4) view of the universe, the universe could be said to be bending into the higher dimensions. If this were true, then things like this could happen:

This is a diagram of our universe, bent around a higher dimension. To us, on the "surface" of it, it will always appear 4-dimensional. In this model, an even occurs, and the information from that event travels away from it at the speed of light. We know an event occurs when the light reaches us, so in effect, we are always looking into the past.

Now. The grey lines represent a link in the universe of two points, through the higher-dimensional space. This could theoretically be accomplished by increasing the energy density of a point until the universe breaks through at another point. In this example, the two points, the event E, and the observer O, effectively occupy the same (undefined) point in space. Any action by either one will be instantaneously observed by the other.

The orange lines represent a link in a point sometime in the future of E, and in the past of O. Any information about E could enter this point, and arrive at O before it should, and before other information. It will essentially have time-traveled into its own future.

The purple lines represent a link in the future of O, and in the past of E. At this point in time, O will already know what has happened at E. However, by looking at this point, E will also be able to see what happened before E, instantly. In this example, we could see, for instance, a star expanding and exploding before the light from that explosion reaches us.

There's a whole lot of practical issues with doing any of this, but it is mostly theoretically sound.

#32

It's ALWAYS bending time

CRAP. I forgot to watch Futurama this morning.

#33

TS discovered dimensional "folding" and moving via the 4th dimension.

#34

TS discovered dimensional "folding" and moving via the 4th dimension.

You can thank me later

#35

I can't tell you how to travel 6 lightyears under 6 lightyears, but I can tell you how to get the Kessel Run in under 12 parsecs

#36

if you bend time, you bend space. you travel the time it takes you to travel the space. the less space, the more time, and vice-versa right?

so, what if we started work now, on a device which would survive the millenia? a device that would record? a device that, while raveling through space-time, could survive the temporal and spatial test's in order to bring our future generations information about the past?

so, what if we started work now, on a device which would survive the millenia? a device that would record? a device that, while raveling through space-time, could survive the temporal and spatial test's in order to bring our future generations information about the past?

#37

Seven sci-fi references and nobody mentions the fact that TS's post could have been taken directly out of A Wrinkle in Time. I believe they call it tesselating. That was one trippy-ass book if I remember correctly.

Yeah, A Wrinkle in Time, clearly the most relevant fiction reference here.

Yeah, A Wrinkle in Time, clearly the most relevant fiction reference here.

#38

Seven sci-fi references and nobody mentions the fact that TS's post could have been taken directly out of A Wrinkle in Time. I believe they call it tesselating. That was one trippy-ass book if I remember correctly.

Yeah, A Wrinkle in Time, clearly the most relevant fiction reference here.

the fourth dimension is time, the fifth, is a tesseract. NERDRAGE

#39

No... They are both 4. Nerdrage

#40

No... They are both 4. Nerdrage

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