#1
A guy is selling his Kramer Baretta for around 650$


Although Adrian Vandenberg signed it apparantly haha can someone tell if it looks legit?
I know nothing about Kramers really but i always had a major gas for Barettas!
How much does Barettas usually go for?
#2
depends on whether it's a US made one or a japanese made one. i had a US made one back in the day and ti was a pretty nice guitar (the japanese made ones vary depending on the model series). $650 does seem a bit steep although from the pic it looks like it's in good shape. check ebay finished auctions.
#3
It's a pointy with a rosewood board, therefore it's over priced as they're not as popular... The sig probably boosts the price a little though.

This one must be from around '87 before they added the scoop on the horn, unless it's a bitsa of course in which case shoot the price down even further. Do you know the serial? If it's way off you'll know it's a bitsa.

Personally I wouldn't pay more than around $500 for a Baretta with that spec (without the sig)


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#4
Quote by monwobobbo
depends on whether it's a US made one or a japanese made one. i had a US made one back in the day and ti was a pretty nice guitar (the japanese made ones vary depending on the model series). $650 does seem a bit steep although from the pic it looks like it's in good shape. check ebay finished auctions.

usa assembled you mean
The pointys are nice enough but as mentioned they arent one the desirable ones ie the banana head stock ones so 650 might be a bit steep. Up to you how much the signature is worth.. i really don't think it would affect the value in a positive way unless evh himself signed it imo.
#6
yeah as lewis said teh pointy headstock ones aren't as sought-after

i'm no kramer expert so i'm not gonna attempt to say whether it's legit or not.
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#7
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Serial is E09891

That fits with what I'm seeing... It had to be a low E****** serial to fit with that body style and headstock (later they began to "scoop" the cutaways and even later began recessing the tremolo.)

I would say that's pretty strong evidence on it being the real deal... If it is a fake the guy knew what he was doing.





(PS: if you're interested this dates the instrument as an '87...)
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#9
Not really a big enough market for 80s guitars to fake yet either. Ashame cause 80s guitars are rad but yea
#10
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Not really a big enough market for 80s guitars to fake yet either. Ashame cause 80s guitars are rad but yea

You can get fakes... Hell you can get fakes of modern day epiphones and squiers.


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usa assembled you mean
The pointys are nice enough but as mentioned they arent one the desirable ones ie the banana head stock ones so 650 might be a bit steep. Up to you how much the signature is worth.. i really don't think it would affect the value in a positive way unless evh himself signed it imo.


pretty sure that the bananna headstock ones were US made. Kramer did have US made guitars at least till the mid 80s. i had 2 Kramers that were definitely US made.
#12
Two things that bug me though....Non oe volume knob and if it is worth so much how come he has it on the floor and with the tuners leaning on the wall..... that reall bugs me argggh!
What the hell!!!
#13
one volume knob is awesome!
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#14
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one volume knob is awesome!

Yes I agree....but I meant it does not look like the original one. So what else isn't original on it???


And if the Signature is not certified it is worthless and actually detracts value from the guitar.
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#15
the original one only had a volume knob, surely?
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#16
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Yes I agree....but I meant it does not look like the original one. So what else isn't original on it???


And if the Signature is not certified it is worthless and actually detracts value from the guitar.

If it is not the original volume knob, it is the same style used originally given it's an early '87.

They had this style volume controls until at least '87-'88 when they started using whatever they felt like.


and fwiw: no tone controls is not cool Dave.


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#17
it is on 80s superstrats
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