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#1
My band released a video for our "Kiss From A Rose" cover by seal.

This video has been getting a shit ton of laughs from a lot of people, which is rad. But it also has been copping a lot of shit, when posted on American sites in particular, from american users. Apparently "blackface" is highly offensive to Americans? Maybe in their culture it is but it's just simple satire pretty much everywhere else. Different cultures, bro. Also watch the original video to understand the parody haha.

Thought?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxAbbe5gAPo
#2
Blackface historically was used by racists and segregationists here in the US in a very negative way. Also, before it was socially acceptable for blacks to appear in stage or film performaces many "black" parts were played by white people in blackface. It's very culturally insensitive in the US.
#3
Blackface is indeed offensive in the States.

And that cover sucked.
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Blackface looks like Tom Hardy as Bronson.
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#6
No, unless there's a white bishop present handing out candy to kids. Otherwise Blacking up is deemed socially unacceptable.
#7
That was funny!

people need to buy a lamp and lighten up.
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#9
How in the hell is that offensive? It made me laugh, man n*ggas need to chill out.
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How in the hell is that offensive? It made me laugh, man n*ggas need to chill out.


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I forgot about that bit. Even better.
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#19
I'd be surprised if it was considered anything less than unacceptable in Australia. I remember a big story about some Aussie comedian/entertainer blacking up and getting redonkulous amounts of shit for it.

Anyway, blackface is not cool brah.
#20
Blackface = no no in extremely overbearing politically correct america
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#22
Given that blackface used to be used almost exclusively by white supremacists in theater to make racist jokes and insinuations, I can see why people have a problem with it. It's more the racist connotations than any joke you guys made.

Same deal with the confederate flag. It's not the flag itself but what it used to stand for that offends some people.
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Blackface historically was used by racists and segregationists here in the US in a very negative way. Also, before it was socially acceptable for blacks to appear in stage or film performances many "black" parts were played by white people in blackface. It's very culturally insensitive in the US.

This. It was taken to a whole different level in the US when it was still "socially acceptable."

However, that is just over here in the US.
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#26
American's think too much about their history, that's why it's offensive.

Blackface passed the acceptance-border A LONG TIME AGO here in Europe. You know, when slavery was like, GONE.

So much unnessecary drama on the other side.
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American's think too much about their history, that's why it's offensive.

Blackface passed the acceptance-border A LONG TIME AGO here in Europe. You know, when slavery was like, GONE.

So much unnessecary drama on the other side.

It has nothing to do with slavery.
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#28
I've never heard of black face.

The clean vocals were shit.

Sounds like an awesome song though.

Why is black face offensive, and not the movie "white girls"?
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#29
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It has nothing to do with slavery.


Ofcourse not.

But blackface hasn't been a problem since then, at the very least.
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Why is black face offensive, and not the movie "white girls"?

because it's not racist when black people do it.

Honestly though, I have no idea. It confuses me too.
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#31
Offensiveness aside, that cover was terrible, and the video was terrible.

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Why is black face offensive, and not the movie "white girls"?


Because the Wayans brother's lousy acting was already offensive enough.
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Ofcourse not.

But blackface hasn't been a problem since then, at the very least.


Blackface was still prevalent in the early days of TV (c. 1950s). Keep in mind that America was still formally segregated less than 100 years ago, and that de facto segregation exists in most parts of the country. Blackface is a huge no-no for a reason.

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#33
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I've never heard of black face.

The clean vocals were shit.

Sounds like an awesome song though.

Why is black face offensive, and not the movie "white girls"?


Because it's not racist if it's against white people.

Also, yes. The clean vocals were fucking terrible. I didn't like the cover, but it was nevertheless very well done. With a good singer it would've sounded professional. Fire your vocalist.
#34
I liked your clean singer on the whole and didn't like your harsh vocalist. Fire your harsh vocalist.
#35


That movie was an offense to the entire human race, and probably some smarter species of apes and dolphins, too. Anything with a shred of intelligence was offended by this movie.
#36
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I liked your clean singer on the whole and didn't like your harsh vocalist. Fire your harsh vocalist.


I can't logically tell you your opinion is wrong, but the guy wasn't singing in tune with the music at all. He was also singing entirely through his nose.

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That movie was an offense to the entire human race, and probably some smarter species of apes and dolphins, too. Anything with a shred of intelligence was offended by this movie.


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Blackface was still prevalent in the early days of TV (c. 1950s). Keep in mind that America was still formally segregated less than 100 years ago, and that de facto segregation exists in most parts of the country. Blackface is a huge no-no for a reason.

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#39
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American's think too much about their history, that's why it's offensive.

Blackface passed the acceptance-border A LONG TIME AGO here in Europe. You know, when slavery was like, GONE.

So much unnessecary drama on the other side.


I can't pretend I'm very familiar with the quality of life or the culture in Europe, but I'm quite certain the divide there is not nearly as bad as the divide here, and a great deal of that disparity in this country comes from the fact that legalized segregation has only been gone for forty years and some change. It takes more than a fresh new attitude and a couple years to climb out of that hole.

Also, different culture. No American should have to explain cultural awareness and sensitivity to a European. For Christ's sake, you're surrounded by other countries.

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Huh?


I thought you were talking about the Batman film whose soundtrack the original Seal song was on. Now that I realize you were talking about that music video, I agree. Downing a bottle of vodka would have been better for my brain than watching that video.
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I thought you were talking about the Batman film whose soundtrack the original Seal song was on. Now that I realize you were talking about that music video, I agree. Downing a bottle of vodka would have been better for my brain than watching that video.

What? No I was talking about the movie White Chicks, I posted a screenshot of the movie in the post
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