Poll: What is your opinion of the United Kingdom?
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View poll results: What is your opinion of the United Kingdom?
I am all for the United Kingdom
27 38%
I would like to see it abolished
14 20%
Not sure/Undecided
8 11%
I don't care
22 31%
Voters: 71.
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#1
Do you feel that there is any point in keeping the sovereign state? With Scotland's current referendum it looks like the United Kingdom may soon come to an end. I'm not sure about Welsh people's opinion on the uk but I certainly know that a lot of Northern Irish people would like to see the uk abolished.

Would this benefit our countries economies, or would this have a negative effect on them? Would people feel that their cultural identity would be restored if the uk was abolished?

It's an interesting subject, so share your views.
#4
England and Scotland will probably do the best out of it. Not sure what Wales and N. Ireland think they're gonna do.

I'm neither for or against it really. Living in England we'll definitely feel the least effect and realistically the only real difference I forsee is that our political system hurries up a bit because we're just setting policy for one country.
#6
I don't like how the UK government still seems to think they've got an empire, life would be much better here if we stopped wasting so much money meddling in foreign affairs that aren't our business.
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#7
Abolish the Tories.
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#8
It'll definetly damage our economy, especially if we join with the republic, since they're in deeper shit economically than the UK is.
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#9
I honestly have no idea how I feel about it, gonna need to make my mind up in the next year or so. Salmond is an excellent politician, and he'll be much more convincing than Cameron in the arguments for/against independence (tbh, Cameron trying to keep us in the UK will probably make more people here want to leave it) but I have doubts about how detailed his plans really are about how we'd cope after leaving the UK.
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#10
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It'll definetly damage our economy, especially if we join with the republic, since they're in deeper shit economically than the UK is.

The Norn Irish economy is currently the worst in the uk iirc.
#11
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I don't like how the UK government still seems to think they've got an empire, life would be much better here if we stopped wasting so much money meddling in foreign affairs that aren't our business.



Recently I've started feeling this way myself.


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This.
#12
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The Norn Irish economy is currently the worst in the uk iirc.


Yeh exactly, things are bad enough as it is
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It'll definetly damage our economy, especially if we join with the republic, since they're in deeper shit economically than the UK is.


Join the republic?

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#14
If it's not a united, socialist world, I'm not interested.
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#15
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Abolish the Tories.

If we leave, the Tories are gonna get a much higher proportion of seats in parliament if they keep the constituencies as they are now, so I hope the rest of the UK are ready for a good few more years of David Cameron.

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#16
It confuses me why Britain want to hold onto Northern Ireland, since I was under the impression that Norn Ireland is a pain for Britain.
#17
Split up the United Kingdom, go to war with Scotland, take over them again. Sorted.
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#18
I'd like to see the UK kept as it is. Alex Salmond is the biggest spinster in politics who rants on and on about bullshit scottish values and culture that doesn't even exist. We didn't even wear kilts all that much until Walter Scott made it fashionable.

David cameron can't relate to scotland though because hes a posh etonian, so id be Up for giving the Scottish secretary more powers much like the first minister has.

History is in the past , get over the Braveheart mentality(**** you Mel Gibson by the way) and accept that we share a monarch , we are on the same island so we may aswell be united as one nation.

p.s

Give northern ireland back to the irish , it is their island after all.
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#19
I fucking want to move to Canada.

£9000 a year on tuition fees? Fuck you, Tories. Fuck you.
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#20
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I fucking want to move to Canada.

£9000 a year on tuition fees? Fuck you, Tories. Fuck you.


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#21
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Give northern ireland back to the irish , it is their island after all.

Even if Northern Ireland parted from the uk there would be no chance of a united Ireland, too many split opinions on the identity of Northern Ireland.
#22
Quote by Trowzaa
Split up the United Kingdom, go to war with Scotland, take over them again. Sorted.




Actually, Scotland 'took over' England in 1603 when James VI (Scottish) took the throne of England.

They got unified about 100 years later.

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#23
Quote by aeroslash09


Actually, Scotland 'took over' England in 1603 when James VI (Scottish) took the throne of England.

They got unified about 100 years later.

lrn2history



please god...don't start this argument.

The only reason these days that people want independence is because of mis- informed point scoring like this. We are talking about 400 years ago , i don't see anybody trying to hang on to witch burnings , so why try and get back a country which effectively ceased to exist as a sovereign state 400 years ago.
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#25
Quote by burghUK
please god...don't start this argument.

The only reason these days that people want independence is because of mis- informed point scoring like this. We are talking about 400 years ago , i don't see anybody trying to hang on to witch burnings , so why try and get back a country which effectively ceased to exist as a sovereign state 400 years ago.

I was totally against Scottish independence until recently. The Tory/Lib Dem coalition is a ****ing joke, and one which the Scottish people didn't vote for. On the other side, the SNP have been doing a pretty good job of governing Scotland since they took over. It would mean bad things for the rest of the UK if we left, what with all our oil and coal and the fact that without Scotland the Tories would have been in power constantly since WWII. However, I'm starting to think Scotland would benefit quite a lot from having more power over itself, if not full independence but at least an increased set of devolved powers.
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#26
I could not give a toss.
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#27
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Actually, Scotland 'took over' England in 1603 when James VI (Scottish) took the throne of England.

They got unified about 100 years later.

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#28
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I was totally against Scottish independence until recently. The Tory/Lib Dem coalition is a ****ing joke, and one which the Scottish people didn't vote for. On the other side, the SNP have been doing a pretty good job of governing Scotland since they took over. It would mean bad things for the rest of the UK if we left, what with all our oil and coal and the fact that without Scotland the Tories would have been in power constantly since WWII. However, I'm starting to think Scotland would benefit quite a lot from having more power over itself, if not full independence but at least an increased set of devolved powers.



Devolved powers , yes.

But you can't jump straight into independence because there is no going back. With a growing lower class in england the tories only have a limited amount of time left. You can change the governments by voting , not by taking drastic steps like independence.
#29
Quote by Craigo
John Major actually supports full devolution. (Yeah, what the deuce?) He's definitely got some interesting thought there. I'm leaning towards increasing devolution, especially in tax collection and spending for Scotland, with some binding budget rules.

I'm pretty sure Cameron wants a vote with only two choices though, so it's either complete independence or staying as we are now so the 'increased' devolution isn't gonna happen. Not that it's a bad idea, it just doesn't seem to be an option if Cameron gets his way.
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#30
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please god...don't start this argument.

The only reason these days that people want independence is because of mis- informed point scoring like this. We are talking about 400 years ago , i don't see anybody trying to hang on to witch burnings , so why try and get back a country which effectively ceased to exist as a sovereign state 400 years ago.


Pretty sure the independence thing also has a lot to do with the fact we get absolutely arse raped in tax and have a teeny weeny say in what goes on politically in the UK.
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#31
I don't like whenever I have to fill something in and it comes up with country choice as 'United Kingdom' I'm from England, NOT THE 'uk'
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#32
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Pretty sure the independence thing also has a lot to do with the fact we get absolutely arse raped in tax and have a teeny weeny say in what goes on politically in the UK.



How would we not get arse raped in Tax by a scotish government? we would have more to pay for.

The total amount of sway we have in westminster is down to the fact we are a minority. Theres only 5.5mill of us compared to over 52million down south. It's only logical.
#33
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#35
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Split up the United Kingdom, go to war with Scotland, take over them again. Sorted.



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#36
I'm going to study there (five unconditional offers!), and I do not care whether I study in the UK or England, as England would probably not suffer much from this anyway.
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#37
If the UK gets split up its just going to cause more hate betweent the English and the Scottish.
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#38
Quote by burghUK
How would we not get arse raped in Tax by a scotish government? we would have more to pay for.

The total amount of sway we have in westminster is down to the fact we are a minority. Theres only 5.5mill of us compared to over 52million down south. It's only logical.


The amount of tax may stay the same or increase ( doubt it would ever fall) but that money would then be able to be used directly by the government as needed.

The sway we have due to being a minority is the problem in general when it comes to westminster. You can't be treated as a separate entity with a devolved government and then have an entire nations opinion washed over.

Tbh I'm not to sure about full Independence, it could go really well but it also has the potential to go really bad. If Cameron provides an option to give more power to the Scottish government I would probably go for that and then see how we deal with the added control before thinking about full fledged independence.
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#39
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The Norn Irish economy is currently the worst in the uk iirc.


So things would be even worse if NI joined the Republic. They wouldn't be able to support us.
#40
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So things would be even worse if NI joined the Republic. They wouldn't be able to support us.

Yeah I totally agree, a united Ireland would be a bad idea considering how fucked the Republics economy is.
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