#1
Hello UGers!
I have just got myslef an MG250dfx ( mg 100w stereo combo 212) for next-to-nothing
to be fair, I don't get bad sounds from it at 'bedroom' levels, but when i get up to 'hearing the guitar over the drums' levels it breaks up and sounds kinda pants!

I have a healthy half stack that i am chuffed with, but don't want to drag it around everywhere, and it is not 'ideal' for smaller venues or practice's.

So, i find myself thinking whether it would be a good idea to mod the combo Mg.
I know MG amps have got a bad rep off a LOT of people, but at low volume levels they don't seem that bad, and With tweeking I can get some nice sounds.

I play what i describe as 'classic heavy rock/metal' between Sabbath and Guns n Roses kind of sounds.
Im from The Uk, I have been playing for 11 years, I play at home, in our practice garage, and at venues.

I have got some Eminence legend GB128's in my marshall M412, and I love those with my Valve heads, so maybe i could get a massively improved sound with these in the MG? maybe it would be better to go for 75w speakers, maybe preventing break up at higher levels? maybe the 1258's?
If any one has any suggestions other that 'MG's Suck' please do advise! i am aware MG's are not the best out there, Thats why i want to make it better (at higher volumes)
Thanks
T
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#2
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#3
^ that would be my concern

*if* you can get cheap enough good speakers it might be worth considering (blue aran has deals on some eminence models at the moment, you can pick up two speakers for ~£80). and you could always use those speakers later in another cab.

but yeah unless you're getting a good deal i probably wouldn't bother.
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#4
You could run an MG into a full stack loaded with EV's and it would still get lost in the mix.
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#5
well, i got the combo for less than £50, so i dont mind spending up to £100 if it makes a worth-while difference. change the wiring for 16g while im there.
If i end up with something small (ish) that cost me less than 150 quid, and sounds good enough to practice with then i will be happy. also something a little bit qwerky and original maybe. and like you say Dave_Mc, i can always use the speakers in another cab later on.
so i guess the question is now.... what speaker to use?
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#6
But if you get the speaker and it still doesn't do what you want (which I doubt it will) then you're back at square one except you've got a spare speaker and you're out the cost of it...

If it were me I'd just skip a step and start thinking about a different amp.
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#7
Keep your eye on this. It is certainly something you could keep after you upgrade your amp:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Marshall-1960a-4x12-cab-/280804323873?pt=UK_MusicalInstr_Amplifiers_RL&hash=item41613df221

This is 200 quid "buy now":
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Marshall-1960b-Vintage-Cab-Celestion-Vintage-30-Speakers-16-Ohm-/250964838096?pt=UK_MusicalInstr_Amplifiers_RL&hash=item3a6eab86d0
It's loaded with V30's so it may not be the best bet for an MG but again - may suit your next amp or you could flip it.
Gilchrist custom
Yamaha SBG500
Telecasters
Randall RM100 & RM20
Marshall JTM45 clone
Marshall JCM900 4102 (modded)
Marshall 18W clone
Fender 5F1 Champ clone
Atomic Amplifire
Marshall 1960A
Boss GT-100


Cathbard Amplification
My band
#8
good price on the 1960's! Vintage 30's may go well in a mg. anything will be an improvement i recon.
Would fitting 2 good 75w speakers instead of 2 crap 50w speakers prevent the un-wanted buzz type crackle rubbish sound that i am getting at the moment? it will prob give a better quality tone than the stock ones, its my thinking that the 75w's wont be pushed as hard as the 50w's
Or am i on the wrong track completely?
at the end of the day, if it doesn't work well i can sell the combo, put a bit of money to it and buy a small valve head and use the 2 75w speakers in a 212 cab to go with it.
I want to have a mess around!
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#9
Maybe but you'd be far better off putting that money towards a decent cab you can use later and just don't use the speakers in the MG combo at all. Why bother trying to polish a turd you're going to sell anyway?
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Randall RM100 & RM20
Marshall JTM45 clone
Marshall JCM900 4102 (modded)
Marshall 18W clone
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Atomic Amplifire
Marshall 1960A
Boss GT-100


Cathbard Amplification
My band
#10
fair comment. I guess I shall just give up on making the MG better, sell it on for a profit and get a 1x12 tube combo or something.
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#11
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fair comment. I guess I shall just give up on making the MG better, sell it on for a profit and get a 1x12 tube combo or something.


Indeed.

You could get a Marshall DSL50 or something, that would do your Sabbath and GNR very nicely.
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#12
Going with higher efficiency speakers will allow you to get more volume at lower amp levels, which may help you avoid the 'sounds like ass' that the MG's are credited with.
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#13
Have you tried to connect the MG to the Marshall cab you already have? Try it, it may give you an idea of what other speakers will sound like for it. You can then work out whether to buy any or not.
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Would fitting 2 good 75w speakers instead of 2 crap 50w speakers prevent the un-wanted buzz type crackle rubbish sound that i am getting at the moment?

not with that amp.

+1 on the getting something else.
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