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Question about the Fender Hot Rod Tele RI.

In the center position, most, if not all of the videos on YouTube say both pickups are on...

Fender has... (Click on 'Specs' under the picture of the guitar)

http://www.fender.com/products/search.php?partno=0100232850

Pickup Switching - 3-Position Blade

Position 1. Bridge Pickup.
Position 2. Neck Pickup with Tone Control (Bright Vintage Circuit).
Position 3. Neck Pickup with No Tone Control (Dark Vintage Circuit)

Could the web page be wrong?

Who knows the truth for 100% sure?
Last edited by BurstBucker Pro at Jan 17, 2012,
#3
Everyone else is wrong. All vintage telecasters were like that and this Is a vintage reissue so it's probably true.
#4
Yeah, Telecasters didn't get a "both pickups" option until the CBS buyout (except for like one year, like 1951, IIRC)
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#6
Man... I am starting to think the Fender site is wrong, and all the youtube videos are correct.

It sure sounds like to me that both pickups are on in the center position.

I would love to get conformation on this.
#7
I don't know why you'd doubt Fender on this. Do you really believe they would be so incompetent to make up their spec sheets?

Having played four of these, I can confirm that there is no combined pickup selection. It's exactly as the Fender site says.
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#8
"I don't know why you'd doubt Fender on this. Do you really believe they would be so incompetent to make up their spec sheets?"

If they copy/pasted stats from a 52 RI, but not the 52 RI Hot Rod model, the info would be correct...
(That is without the owner installing the free modern rewire kit, given out with that model.)
That would be an easy mistake for the site admins to make, so yes...

The Hot Rod is Fenders Modern take on the reissue. So having the more modern wireing of both pickups on in the center position would be believable.

Further, when you combine the fact that a 'modern rewire kit' is given out standard to the other 52 models, to make both pickups be on in the center position... If they opt to install it.

But no such ' modern rewire kit' is included with the Hot Rod model, I believe most likely because it is already installed.

Makes it even more believable...


"Having played four of these, I can confirm that there is no combined pickup selection. It's exactly as the Fender site says."

I find the bucker louder than the single coil, and likewise the center position sounds the same. (More than a bright Vintage Circuit could account for in my opinion).
Last edited by BurstBucker Pro at Jan 17, 2012,
#9
what. the humbucker is in the neck.

position 2 and 3 would be louder then position 1.

also if they were all on then position 2 wouldn't be humcanceling.
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#10
If the site is correct is correct...

Position 2. Neck Pickup with Tone Control (Bright Vintage Circuit).

The humbucker should be off in the center position.
I simply believe I hear the humbucker also on, in the center position.

Just like all the dudes are saying in their youtube videos on the Hot Rod Tele...
Last edited by BurstBucker Pro at Jan 17, 2012,
#11
Quote by BurstBucker Pro
If the site is correct is correct...

Position 2. Neck Pickup with Tone Control (Bright Vintage Circuit).

The humbucker should be off in the center position.
I simply believe I hear the humbucker also on, in the center position.

Just like all the dudes are saying in their youtube videos on the Hot Rod Tele...



....

are you serious.




what's in the neck?
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Last edited by AcousticMirror at Jan 17, 2012,
#12
Serious about what exactly?

Maple Neck. The neck profile is inviting; It has a slight 'U' shape behind the first few frets.

It's a vintage remake with modern upgrades...

For instance it has a 9.5-inch radius fingerboard as opposed to the 7.25" that the regular 52 reissues have.

It also has the Medium Jumbo frets instead of the smaller Vintage style frets.
Last edited by BurstBucker Pro at Jan 17, 2012,
#13
Quote by BurstBucker Pro
Man... I am starting to think the Fender site is wrong, and all the youtube videos are correct.

It sure sounds like to me that both pickups are on in the center position.

I would love to get conformation on this.


http://www.fender.com/support/articles/contact-consumer-relations

you could ask them, you're just gonna get Min's dumbass replies if you keep posting here cuz no one can really tell you for sure here unless they break open the guitar and analyze the circuit to see if fender is telling the truth or not.
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#14
I thought the Hot Rod's were amps
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#15
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Hey Bbpro. Ask Someone Else For Their Opinion On What Pickup Is In The Neck.

Then Ask Here If Their Opinion Is Right.
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#16
I F'ed my post up...

I did get Bridge and Bucker mixed up...

The humbucker is indeed on in the center position, because it is the neck pickup.

The only real mystery is if both pickups are in in the center position, or not.

Guess I will call Fender.
Last edited by BurstBucker Pro at Jan 17, 2012,
#18
Are both pickups on in the center position...

If they aren't, it's odd a modern rewire kit is not included with the Hot Rod, but all other 52 RI's..

My current belief is that when the modern rewire kit is installed, both pickups would then be on in the center position.
Last edited by BurstBucker Pro at Jan 17, 2012,
#19
no. they are not.

otherwise the pickups would not be humcanceling.

my current belief is that you as a free and unencumbered human being can wire your guitar up in any way you please.
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#20
Quote by AcousticMirror
no. they are not.

otherwise the pickups would not be humcanceling.



OK... 1 Bucker, and 1 single coil cant be on at the same time...
#23
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I didn't read much of this thread....but why not grab a screwdriver and touch it against the magnets on the pickups with the guitar plugged in to see what pickups are on?

That'll tell you the answer in like 2 seconds.

But it's more fun to ask in pretty colours!
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#24
I don't see what's so hard to understand about "Fender haven't messed up their own spec sheet, it's how they say it is".

I think your confusion may be that the minibucker does not sound like a regular humbucker, especially with the two different tone wiring. A neck minibucker, when bright, can sound a little like a normal SS Tele with both pickups on, especially if you're playing through quite a bright amp.
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#25
Quote by chip46
I didn't read much of this thread....but why not grab a screwdriver and touch it against the magnets on the pickups with the guitar plugged in to see what pickups are on?

That'll tell you the answer in like 2 seconds.


Good idea...

I will.

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select each option, tap pickup with something metal, a coin for example... listen to amp to hear sound.

case closed

doesn't even have to be metal, tap it with your finger or pick and you can hear it too
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#34
Quote by BurstBucker Pro
Good idea...

I will.

I just wanted to understand my new axes features.
I've only had it a day...

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#35
Not that most of you trolls care, but for the good of the boards info...

The Fender site is officially dead balls wrong.

I confirmed with the tap test. (Thanks again for the productive post.)
Both the Neck and Bridge pickups are indeed on, when the selector switch is in the center position.


And YouTube was correct...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_v-7km8FrI
Fender Vintage Hot Rod '52 Telecaster & Vox AC30C2 Combo
at 1:34

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYb7H_65z0Q
Mojocaster.com - Fender Telecaster Hot Rod 52 review
at 3:59


Even in French...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaYNirQf6_o
Veitz Guitars test telecaster vintage 52 humbucker; hot rod ed limitée
At 1:20

And also a darn good reason why the free 'Modern rewire kit' is not given out with the Hot Rod, like the other 52 models.

I called Fender and told them to fix the Hot Rod web page. He is taking it to management now...

The End!
Last edited by BurstBucker Pro at Jan 18, 2012,
#37
No..

1699.99 with tweed case included at GC.

Wow!! Fenders Fast...

Web site is now updated.
http://www.fender.com/products/search.php?partno=0100232850

Under 'Specs' it now reads:

Pickup Switching: 3-Position Blade:

Position 1. Bridge Pickup,
Position 2. Bridge and Neck Pickups,
Position 3. Neck Pickup
Last edited by BurstBucker Pro at Jan 18, 2012,
#39
I guess somebody has to correct Fender...

I wonder how long the Vintage 52 Hot Rod has been released?
Late 2007... Early 2008??

That is a long time to have funky info on your web page... Especially when you consider that having both pickups on in the center position, would be the more desired feature, than the info they had posted.

I told the Fender dude it was probably costing them money in lost sales on the Hot Rod.
Last edited by BurstBucker Pro at Jan 19, 2012,
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