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#2
Studio and buy the EMG's separately.
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#3
If that Gibson Studio is legit, I'd get that one for sure.
For a bit more than the money the Epiphone would cost you could swap the Gibson's pickups for EMGs too, which I really wouldn't recommend unless you absolutely know that you want EMG tone and you know what you're doing.
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#4
gibson. then take it to your local shop and pay them a little extra to intall EMGs into it. but tbh EMGs dont sound natural and dynamic to me like passive pickups. id rather get a high output passive pickup like DiMarzio super distortions.

but the gibsons build quality will definitely be better.
#5
something's probably wrong with the studio. that's too cheap, even for a studio.
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#6
I would get the studio authenticated, if its real its by far the better choice, you can always sell it for more. and to be honest, emg's are not the be all and end all of guitar playing that some people seem to make them out to be. their good, yeah. But any gibson's still going to be better.
#7
the only genuine gibson les paul studio i've ever seen being sold that cheap had a broken headstock.
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#8
The specs on an Epiphone Custom will be better than a Gibson studio.

You are comparing the lowest version of a Gibson to the highest version of Epiphone. Don't be fooled by the name.
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#9
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The specs on an Epiphone Custom will be better than a Gibson studio.

You are comparing the lowest version of a Gibson to the highest version of Epiphone. Don't be fooled by the name.


the custom isn't epiphones "highest" version, it's just the most decorated
and it's still an epiphone. the ultra or the elitist would be the best epi model. I have an upgraded custom, i'd trade it for a stock studio in a heartbeat.

the gibson is sure to be better in every little detail. you just won't get a flashy flamed maple top on it or anything, but the base quality is still going to be higher. better wood, better electronics, better hardware, everything.
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#10
Oops, I forgot about the Ultra, but the Elitist is discontinued is it not?

Still I would take the Epiphone custom over the Studio any day myself. I suppose tht's why they make so many different kinds. everyone is different.
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#12
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You are comparing the lowest version of a Gibson to the highest version of Epiphone. Don't be fooled by the name.
The last part is rather ironic. Spec-wise, the Epi CUstom is exactly the same as the Epi Standard. Literally the only difference is the Customm is painted solid white or black, has fake multiply binding (it's actually single binding just made to look like multiply) and has cheap gold hardware that rubs down and loses its colour within a couple of months. The Custom is the one with the misleading title.

OP: as with any Gibson, check the guitar out in person. Check it over carefully. If it's all in good condition, that's a great price and it will be much better than the Epiphone. However, that price is very suspicious. Check it carefully.
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The specs on an Epiphone Custom will be better than a Gibson studio.

You are comparing the lowest version of a Gibson to the highest version of Epiphone. Don't be fooled by the name.

don't be fooled by the name?



i think this picture says it all really.
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#14
I'd get the Gibson. The Gibson Studio is somewhat better-made than the Epiphone Custom.

PS. To the poster above me: You do realise old Epiphone hollowbodies are in a whole different league than new Epiphone Les Pauls, right?
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#15
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I'd get the Gibson. The Gibson Studio is somewhat better-made than the Epiphone Custom.

PS. To the poster above me: You do realise old Epiphone hollowbodies are in a whole different league than new Epiphone Les Pauls, right?

did you read my post, including the quote, or just look at the picture and ignore the text?

the point i was making is that epiphone is just as much of a big brand name as gibson. there are people who will buy an epiphone les paul over just as good of a les paul copy from another company just because "it's licensed by gibson" even if it costs a lot more, and then there's people who will choose epiphone just because the beatles used them a lot... etc.. i think roughly the same percentage of any epiphone's price goes towards "big-brand" markup that it does with gibsons, so this whole "you pay for the name when you buy a gibson" logic doesn't really make any sense when compared to epiphone.

in short what i was getting at is, people who go out and buy a new epiphone because the beatles used epiphones, are also being fooled by the name
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#16
If it's not a hollowbody, I usually try to stray away from Epiphone, personally. They're the only guitars in that lineup that I can forgive for having baseball bat necks.
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#17
Sigh. I swear next time I go out and buy an Epiphone or a Gibson I am going to saw that part of the headstock off to avoid debate like this.
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#18
where were the epiphones used by the beatles made? where is any epiphone you can buy in a shop or on ebay for under £500 quid made? if in 50 years time esp buy gibson, ship the factories to china and knock out epiphone quality guitars are they going to be as good or sought after as the gibsons made now? I dont think so. your argument is like comparing a ferrari to a fiat!
#19
yeah but...my fiat has emg's
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#20
I could go all nick mason and get a ferrari red epi and stick a prancing horse badge on it...
#21
in general i prefer epiphones, only difference between my epi and gibson is the headstock and probably grade of wood, its got the same classic 57 pups as some of the higher end gibsons and has all of the tone pots and wiring etc. youd find in a gibson, (this is for £450 compared to a £1000+ gibson)
#22
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don't be fooled by the name?



i think this picture says it all really.



No it doesn't! In those days the Epis were actually made at the Gibson plant by Gibson employees (Epiphone having sold out many years before to Gibson and closing down). The Wiltshire (not sure I spelled that right) was an another example of a gibson guitar with an Epi name on it. Same with the Accoustics the Beatles used.
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#23
Quote by JJlespaul
in general i prefer epiphones, only difference between my epi and gibson is the headstock and probably grade of wood, its got the same classic 57 pups as some of the higher end gibsons and has all of the tone pots and wiring etc. youd find in a gibson, (this is for £450 compared to a £1000+ gibson)

For about 600-700£ (maybe 500£ or less when you look used) you could have had an actual Gibson Les Paul (Faded Studio) with higher grade wood, an actual maple top, already good stock pickups, better hardware and better electronics.
Even if you don't notice the difference in terms of the higher grade wood, at least the real maple top (no veneer as on the Epiphones) would make a big difference and it's actually a big part of the Les Paul sound.

Just saying.

If you like your Les Paul, that's OK, but by slapping a set of Gibson humbuckers in it, you didn't turn it into a Gibson.

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No it doesn't! In those days the Epis were actually made at the Gibson plant by Gibson employees (Epiphone having sold out many years before to Gibson and closing down). The Wiltshire (not sure I spelled that right) was an another example of a gibson guitar with an Epi name on it. Same with the Accoustics the Beatles used.

oh look, i've been misquoted again

i was replying to someone saying "don't be fooled by the name" when comparing gibsons to epis by pointing out that people are also fooled by the epiphone name, and that picture is there as an example of how and why people are fooled by it. how many kids on youtube do you see playing beatles songs on chinese made epiphone casinos?
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#25
both - to both what I own and what are nice. You CAN get nice Epiphones... I like Gibson Custom Shop guitars.
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#26
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oh look, i've been misquoted again

i was replying to someone saying "don't be fooled by the name" when comparing gibsons to epis by pointing out that people are also fooled by the epiphone name, and that picture is there as an example of how and why people are fooled by it. how many kids on youtube do you see playing beatles songs on chinese made epiphone casinos?



Actually I did wonder if perhaps you were aware of the fact the Epis of that era were made by Gibson and were alluding to that! If so congrats !
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#27
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For about 600-700£ (maybe 500£ or less when you look used) you could have had an actual Gibson Les Paul (Faded Studio) with higher grade wood, an actual maple top, already good stock pickups, better hardware and better electronics.
Even if you don't notice the difference in terms of the higher grade wood, at least the real maple top (no veneer as on the Epiphones) would make a big difference and it's actually a big part of the Les Paul sound.

Just saying.

If you like your Les Paul, that's OK, but by slapping a set of Gibson humbuckers in it, you didn't turn it into a Gibson.




mine actually has a maple top maybe look up the facts before hand mr.! edit: it also came with those classic 57s on it, i didnt put them on.
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#28
I have said this before. A Gibson that costs less than an Epi is going to be a piece of garbage. The Epi has the set of EMGs dude wants and those go for around $200 + the install. You could buy a nice strap and box of strings and some good weed with that $200
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#29
Quote by JJlespaul
mine actually has a maple top maybe look up the facts before hand mr.! edit: it also came with those classic 57s on it, i didnt put them on.


it has a maple veneer. the gibson maple top is much thicker. And the pickups aren't the same quality as what comes on a gibson.
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#30
IIRC epis, PRS ses etc, have flame maple veneers and maple tops underneath. And the bonamessa? model has Gibson pickups and upgraded tuners, straplocks, etc.

But its more expensive than the faded gibbys.
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#31
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I have said this before. A Gibson that costs less than an Epi is going to be a piece of garbage. The Epi has the set of EMGs dude wants and those go for around $200 + the install. You could buy a nice strap and box of strings and some good weed with that $200


Since you've spent days bashing Gibsons on another thread I'd say your opinions are well known. Perhaps you should grow up, stop smoking weed and you might one day be able to tell the difference.
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#32
Gibson les paul studio for 320? If you can get it for that price and theres nothing wrong with it i'd jump on it. FWIW i'd still jump on that if its headstock had broken and it had a decent repair...
#33
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IIRC epis, PRS ses etc, have flame maple veneers and maple tops underneath. And the bonamessa? model has Gibson pickups and upgraded tuners, straplocks, etc.

But its more expensive than the faded gibbys.

No.
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#34
O ken LOL I havent smoked the wacky for almost ten years. I am just sick of people that think Gibsons are the holy grail of guitars.....because they are not.
If they were people like EVH or Paul Gilbert,Satch, Vai ect...would be playing them.
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O ken LOL I havent smoked the wacky for almost ten years. I am just sick of people that think Gibsons are the holy grail of guitars.....because they are not.
If they were people like EVH or Paul Gilbert,Satch, Vai ect...would be playing them.




Your point is?

Maybe they are not mainly playing them because they aren't shred guitars and therefore maybe not the optimal thing for the genre or they prefer a different kind of tone.
These guys are not the "holy grail of guitar players" either.
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#36
I also think it is funny to point out the obvious issues with the brand and all the Gibson worshipers get all pissy at me because I am right.
Point is a Gibson at that price is garbage....or not a real Gibson.
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#37
Quote by danvwman
I also think it is funny to point out the obvious issues with the brand and all the Gibson worshipers get all pissy at me because I am right.
Point is a Gibson at that price is garbage....or not a real Gibson.

since it's used, how do you know it's not some chump selling something for that little because they don't realise it's worth more than that?

well, you don't. it's not likely but it's possible. you haven't seen any information about the guitar in question, so you can't possibly know it's garbage? you're just making worthless assumptions.

basically i would advise the threadstarter to make sure he can check the guitar over beforehand. i have seen genuine used gibsons sold for as little as that before, but as i said, usually they had had the neck re-set or the headstock repaired - not something that necessarily impedes the performance of the guitar if it's done correctly, but certainly destroys the resale value. it is possible that that may be the case with the guitar in question.

@cornishrob - i didn't notice until now, but you also completely got the wrong idea about the picture i posted. i needn't explain it again...
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#38
Quote by danvwman
I also think it is funny to point out the obvious issues with the brand and all the Gibson worshipers get all pissy at me because I am right.
Point is a Gibson at that price is garbage....or not a real Gibson.

Dude chill out, There have been some very good deals had on guitars . Not that long ago someone on this forum bought a Music Man JP6 at an estate sale for <$180(about 100GBP right?). Thats a $1000+ used guitar in the USA, and it is cheaper here than anywhere else on the globe.
Am I a Gibson fanboy? No, but I have owned a Studio lp and it was a superb guitar.
They do tend to see less atention to detail more so than the others, so they seem to vary more from instrument to instrument.
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#39
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#40
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No.
I can't speak for PRS SEs, but as far as the Epis go they do have veneers over plain maple. At least the ones that are meant to have quilt/birdseye/flame tops, anyway, like the Ultra and the GX (DX? Something like that). I've lost track of what's up with the really cheap ones.
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