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Ohaithar pit.

So I was thinking about this today...

Do suits actually look smart, the way they fit etc

Or... Is it our perception of them and the fact that we've grown to recognise them as smart, formal clothing?


TL;DR Do suits actually look smart or do we just perceive them to be smart
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#3
Isn't it the same thing, really?
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Ohaithar pit.

So I was thinking about this today...

Do suits actually look smart, the way they fit etc

Or... Is it our perception of them and the fact that we've grown to recognise them as smart, formal clothing?


TL;DR Do suits actually look smart or do we just perceive them to be smart


Silly thread is silly. The only way an inanimate object can be seen as smart is if we perceive it as such. This is inevitably due to societal norms.
#5
Well we are all influenced by symbols and their meaning. Suits represent business, work, formality etc.
If there is a science behind I sure as hell am not looking for it >_<
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#7
Isn't the fact that we perceive something as being smart essentially what makes it smart?
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#8
They're classy, not smart. You can wear a well-fitted suit ad look good, but still be an obvious cretin. Clothes don't represent intelligence.
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#10
Thats deep

No it isn't. Basically you're asking if inherent coolness is built in some objects
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They're classy, not smart. You can wear a well-fitted suit ad look good, but still be an obvious cretin. Clothes don't represent intelligence.

I don't think people mean "intelligent" when they describe clothes as smart.
#12
Suits are the secret metaphorical archetypes of an esoteric world-mystery religion hell bent on implementing universal presentability at formal occasions.
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They're classy, not smart. You can wear a well-fitted suit ad look good, but still be an obvious cretin. Clothes don't represent intelligence.


minus points for thinking smart relates to intelligence
#14
suits r dumb lol
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Isn't the fact that we perceive something as being smart essentially what makes it smart?



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If you were to ask if suits were inherently awesome, the answer would be yes.
#17
Long story short, suits are super badass.
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I don't think people mean "intelligent" when they describe clothes as smart.

Sorry, I'm not used to hearing people use the word smart in the wrong context...
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Sorry, I'm not used to hearing people use the word smart in the wrong context...

I don't think you're used to hearing it at all.
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Sorry, I'm not used to hearing people use the word smart in the wrong context...

I thought using smart as a term to describe something as being stylish was well established.
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Sorry, I'm not used to hearing people use the word smart in the wrong context...

Except it is in the right context... "smart" can be used to describe clothing and outfits.
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#24
everything in life is based in our perception. moot question
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I thought using smart as a term to describe something as being stylish was well established.

I noticed everyone that pointed it out was from the UK or Australian. I don't think it's a common descriptor in North America, or at least in Canada.
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everything in life is based in our perception. moot question

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#28
I've often thought the same thing myself. Hmm. There's probably something in the symmetry and the angles that makes it smarter. The neatness or something. Psychology dissertation for someone?
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I've often thought the same thing myself. Hmm. There's probably something in the symmetry and the angles that makes it smarter. The neatness or something. Psychology dissertation for someone?


That's what I mean, are suits visually pleasing to the eye or not?

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I've often thought the same thing myself. Hmm. There's probably something in the symmetry and the angles that makes it smarter. The neatness or something. Psychology dissertation for someone?
Compositionally suits are more sharp and neat than a tshirt. Furthermore, over time the colours usually found in a suit (black, white) are associated with serious events and have been for some time. Lastly, suits are more expensive than casual clothes and have often been worn by those high in position. As such, we have been conditioned to think of them as smart in these various ways.
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#31
I think to a degree suits can help tell you about a person. EX: Wearing a suit to an important job interview. Show up, well pressed, groomed, shoes shined shows commitment. Showing up in a jacket with dog hair on it, unpressed pants and a shirt, poorly knotted tie, dirty scuffed up shoes, shows a lack.
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that was true before Lucifer's Dwarf assistant Gionta attempted to take the heavenly reins from Reimer, and partially succeeded. All absolute divinity now belongs to Emery, though he will step aside should Reimer make his move to regain the seat at the throne of holiness.
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#33
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I've often thought the same thing myself. Hmm. There's probably something in the symmetry and the angles that makes it smarter. The neatness or something. Psychology dissertation for someone?


Could be on to something with the symmetry. It's proven we prefer symmetrical faces, due to the fact that, during development, bacteria and such can affect our facial features, and therefore the symmetry of our faces. (e.g. having one eye slightly smaller than the other.) Since this then shows a sign of vulnerability to infection, we are not deemed good enough to pass our genes on, since we will pass on imperfect genes.

Perhaps, this idea is also passed on to our clothing (in modern day views on attraction, the way we dress is usually important). Since a suit is designed to fit our bodies well, if we have a symmetrical figure, we are showing that off when we wear a suit. But then most suits have a chest pocket on one side, so... *shrugs*

Sorry, Psychology has flooded my brain for the exam I had today.

Also, it could just as easily be the fact that they're usually a lot more expensive than jeans and a t-shirt, so people in suits seem to be richer, and therefore, most likely more intelligent due to a better paid job. Excluding most celebrities, as modern celebrities are all damn idiots. But then the fact they're richer is probably enough to make them seem better than most people.
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Could be on to something with the symmetry. It's proven we prefer symmetrical faces, due to the fact that, during development, bacteria and such can affect our facial features, and therefore the symmetry of our faces. (e.g. having one eye slightly smaller than the other.) Since this then shows a sign of vulnerability to infection, we are not deemed good enough to pass our genes on, since we will pass on imperfect genes.

Perhaps, this idea is also passed on to our clothing (in modern day views on attraction, the way we dress is usually important). Since a suit is designed to fit our bodies well, if we have a symmetrical figure, we are showing that off when we wear a suit. But then most suits have a chest pocket on one side, so... *shrugs*

Sorry, Psychology has flooded my brain for the exam I had today.

Also, it could just as easily be the fact that they're usually a lot more expensive than jeans and a t-shirt, so people in suits seem to be richer, and therefore, most likely more intelligent due to a better paid job. Excluding most celebrities, as modern celebrities are all damn idiots. But then the fact they're richer is probably enough to make them seem better than most people.


This is what I was thinking, after doing a little research I've found that formal wear in different cultures varies dramatically, for example in the Philippines men wear the Barong Tagalog:



notice the symmetry and tight fitting?

In traditional Chinese dress they wear the Changshan:



Which again seems to be tightly fitting around the shoulders with straight lines of symmetry.
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#35
I don't picture them as smart. But a great fitting suit and shirt does make the person look like they care about their appearance. Because it obviously takes effort to have a suit, shirt and tie that not only fits you properly and uses the right colors.
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Ohaithar pit.

So I was thinking about this today...

Do suits actually look smart, the way they fit etc

Or... Is it our perception of them and the fact that we've grown to recognise them as smart, formal clothing?


TL;DR Do suits actually look smart or do we just perceive them to be smart



A well tailored dark blue blazer will forever remain the most classic item in fashion, and has been so since its inception.

Anyone with the slightest clue on fashion will agree.

Some things are just timelessly and effortlessly beautiful and cool. Like a wel fitted blazer, a nice pair of oxfords or a white shirt.
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#37
You just asked whether completely subjective visual appearance is actually smart? By that key we could go around the world, and judge other culture's "smart" clothes as totally unappropriate for "smart" purposes.
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This is what I was thinking, after doing a little research I've found that formal wear in different cultures varies dramatically, for example in the Philippines men wear the Barong Tagalog:



notice the symmetry and tight fitting?

In traditional Chinese dress they wear the Changshan:



Which again seems to be tightly fitting around the shoulders with straight lines of symmetry.



The Changshan is a traditional dress, not a formal one.

The Barong really is a formal item though. And a hideous one at that.
#39
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You just asked whether completely subjective visual appearance is actually smart?
Like, the suit has DNA and it's smart?


Were those questions?
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Were those questions?

Partly. Edited the post anyway.
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