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So, my band plays in Drop C (C,G,C,F), Drop A# (A#,F,A#,D#,G), Drop A (A,E,A,D,F#) and we just wrote a song in Drop G (G,D,G,C,E). I'm wondering if there are any issues with tuning my five string down to Drop G...? I know that my guitarists do it, and have to suffer from little more than loose strings and a difficulty doing pinch harmonics on the low G string.

Thoughts?
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#2
Why?
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#4
I'm in the same boat as you haha. I hate it. I'm about to quit the current project I'm in, though.
Supposedly DR strings are very good for this. I've never tried myself though. Some dudes just always play on nearly new strings. I've never tried this myself, as well. Haha.
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#5
Well, I would imagine it isn't bad. The only string that's doing any work is the lowest string, because it goes from B to G. The others are like a step below what they normally would be, which isn't bad at all.
#6
Mhmm, for sure. I'm just hoping my Warwick sounds sexy in Drop Ab when it my D'Addario Prosteel 5 set gets here. lml_>.<_lml
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#8
man drop G? What for? Drop B is low enough, there only difference is that Drop G is going to sound much sloppier no matter how good you get it tuned. Tune up.

The only advice I have for you if you're going to play in Drop G is stay near the bottom of the frets, the higher you go up the worse your intonation is going to get.

PS hey delirium :P where the bass wars at?
#9
Well, the guitarists just wanted to write a song in Drop G because they hadn't before lol. The majority of the songs is the open on the G and the first fret on G, so I don't have to go high on the strings. Thanks, guys!
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Well, the guitarists just wanted to write a song in Drop G because they hadn't before lol. The majority of the songs is the open on the G and the first fret on G, so I don't have to go high on the strings. Thanks, guys!


Man that song sounds terrible and I've not even heard it. I assure you that the amount of effort it'd take to set up a bass for G tuning will NOT be worth it
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Man that song sounds terrible and I've not even heard it. I assure you that the amount of effort it'd take to set up a bass for G tuning will NOT be worth it


This, honestly my guitarist had that same mentality, of writing a song in a new tuning just cause it seemed cool. Not to say writing a song in a different tuning is bad, (though 3 different tunings is already enough to be annoying) but for the sake of being as low as possible... meh

Be sure and boost some mids or something so people don't forget you're their for that number.
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This, honestly my guitarist had that same mentality, of writing a song in a new tuning just cause it seemed cool. Not to say writing a song in a different tuning is bad, (though 3 different tunings is already enough to be annoying) but for the sake of being as low as possible... meh

Be sure and boost some mids or something so people don't forget you're their for that number.


Well, the only reason it's not a problem for us regarding tuning differences is because my guitarist has enough guitars to just tune them all differently, as do I in the bass aspect.
#13
Yet from your description the song consists of two notes... how could that ever been good xD Please say it's not a 3 minute long break down song.
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Yet from your description the song consists of two notes... how could that ever been good xD Please say it's not a 3 minute long break down song.


It probably has breakdowns of the breakdowns..

Breakdownception?


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Terrible...
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Terrible...


Agreed, I'd take a real Chelsea Grin/Glasgow Smile over that any day.
#18
I don't mind chuggy riffs... but not when that's ALL the song is.
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#21
This question gets asked at least once a week now it seems. It's always the same retards with the "You don't need to go that low, I know everything" or "Your music must be crap" responses. Then one or two people will actually be helpful and the question is answered and the TS is happy.
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#22
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This question gets asked at least once a week now it seems. It's always the same retards with the "You don't need to go that low, I know everything" or "Your music must be crap" responses. Then one or two people will actually be helpful and the question is answered and the TS is happy.
Use the search bar, and if you haven't got anything helpful or constructive to say then don't bother posting.


I was going to post something along the same lines, but much less polite
#23
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I remember when drop D was cool.

Especially when it wasn't used just for breakdowns? those were the days.
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#24
I think if you are going for a heavy sound, you go for a thick tone with the guitars, rather then downtuning. It saves the trouble and sloppyness of tuning down very far. Ive heard some songs in Drop D that punch me in the face harder then those in drop b. Try Eqing a bit better, may help if you are going for that "ill smash your head in" force.

Of course you can combine the two. But thats just my whole point of view on it, dig what you dig and do what you want
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#25
Black Sabbath by Black Sabbath is in E standard and that's probably the heaviest song there is.
#26
Haaaa... this thread...


Anyways...


Shoot, Warwick Vampyre 'Dark Lord' basses are FACTORY MADE tuned to F#. It's really not that uncommon. Weather or not you think it sounds good is purely a matter of opinion.


FWIW, the Vampyre (which is a 4-string) has it's own strings: .085" (A), .105" (E), .135" (B), .175" (F#)


Like ANY lower tuning, just get some thicker strings, a good set-up, and you'll be fine. Drop G isn't anything new, yall.
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Black Sabbath by Black Sabbath is in E standard and that's probably the heaviest song there is.


Dude... that's not even Black Sabbath's heaviest song...
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#28
I think it was just a dig at the fact he was trying to re string/setup his bass to play a 2 note song. Most of the distaste was towards the youtube video, at least mine was...

I can't make fun of lower tunings being a fan of Electric Wizard.
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I think it was just a dig at the fact he was trying to re string/setup his bass to play a 2 note song. Most of the distaste was towards the youtube video, at least mine was...

I can't make fun of lower tunings being a fan of Electric Wizard.



OOh, i missed that vid.


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All said though, the LOUDEST band i have ever seen is with out a doubt, A Place To Bury Strangers. I love that band as well as any Oliver Ackermann associated stuff (Skywave, Ceremony... and his venue and pedals are AMAZING; both called 'Death By Audio')
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#31
As everyone has said just heavier strings and a decent set up will do the job just fine But yeah, you really dont have to drop tune to sound heavy, i know its all opinion and its up to you But heck, The devil wears prada's newest album was all in drop D and that sound really heavy!
#32
Yea a band I've been following called dead confederate toured with aptbs and used their pedals. Met them a couple of sxsw's ago at their free show. Very cool southern rock mixed with like pyschedlia and grunginess
#33
Or, do what I do. My band plays in drop-C/D-standard, so I downtune my 5-er to GCGCF. That would give you the flexibility to play all those tunings.
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#34
Get a 5 string and tell your guitards to stop doing that shit.

Down tuning does not always = heavy. It = muddyness more often.

It is very rare that I hear things in c standard, drop b, b standard and drop a that do not sound muddy because the guitar players tone is terrible for that tuning.
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#35
Tell your guitarists to stop using loads of distortion as well. Every Time I Die predominantly play in drop-D, but I find their guitar tones much heavier than most metal bands. When you can actually hear the notes people are playing, they have more impact.
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#36
I am going to actually be helpful with this post. I have got a 4 string bass tuned to drop G. I just used the bottom 4 strings off a set of really heavy warwick red labels. Seems to do the trick nicely.
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#37
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I am going to actually be helpful with this post. I have got a 4 string bass tuned to drop G. I just used the bottom 4 strings off a set of really heavy warwick red labels. Seems to do the trick nicely.


Amongst the complaining there actually are answers to the question. Also I hope you actually got your nut/bridge saddles cut and your Truss Rod adjusted when you put those strings on?
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Amongst the complaining there actually are answers to the question. Also I hope you actually got your nut/bridge saddles cut and your Truss Rod adjusted when you put those strings on?


I wasn't particularly bothered about the nut. I spaced it out a bit so I could get the strings in. If I wanted to go back to "regular" tuning I would just get another one I guess. Not that I am planning on doing. The thing is though that you really need to have an instrument set up for the tuning that it is in and the gauge of strings you are using so really this whole thing about the nut is a bit of a moot point, in my opinion.
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#39
It does if the tension on the neck changes massively, like tuning so low does. The neck is expecting a lot more tension than it's being given and there is a good chance of the neck bowing over time.
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#40
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It does if the tension on the neck changes massively, like tuning so low does. The neck is expecting a lot more tension than it's being given and there is a good chance of the neck bowing over time.


Hence why you put heavier strings on it and adjust the truss rod.
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