#1
So I was playing around with the knobs on my Bugera 6262 trying out different sound possibilities. I had it on the Lead channel with the gain really low, around 1 (not o'clock), when I heard a strange fuzzy tone mixed with the "original" guitar sound. Sounded somewhat like a speaker was loose or something rattling around.

At last I found out that I had the Clean channel's gain set at 10 and that this gain "leaked" into the Lead channel. I know the channels share some of the preamp tubes, but I still thought the channels were independent from each other. Or is it my amp that just acts funny?

Bugera 6262: Lead channel not independent from Clean Gain - YouTube An example.

So you who own a 6262 or 6260, are your amps behaving in the same manner?
Are the Peaveys that Bugera cloned similar in this particular area?


I've never really fallen in love with the Lead channel, like so many others have. But after dialing the Clean gain to 0 (usually I have it between 5-8 for crunch) the Lead got some more definition in the tone and got better IMO.
#2
its not supposed to happen, its a by-product of it being shoddily made. I've heard behringer mixers have channel bleed from one channel to another. I'm 100% certain when in the design phase Uli wasn't thinking, "lets make the channels bleed like an old tape console." It's just a crappy product.
#3
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its not supposed to happen, its a by-product of it being shoddily made. I've heard behringer mixers have channel bleed from one channel to another. I'm 100% certain when in the design phase Uli wasn't thinking, "lets make the channels bleed like an old tape console." It's just a crappy product.

pretty much, behringer cuts every corner possible.
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#4
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pretty much, behringer cuts every corner possible.

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#6
My guitarist has one of the 6260's, I'll check it out on Thursday.
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#7
Behringer don't make Bugera products, your point is invalid.
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#8
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Behringer don't make Bugera products, your point is invalid.

Bugera is owned by Behringer or something.
#9
This doesn't happen on my 6262, but then again, I never set the clean gain at 10. Come to think of it, why the hell would you set the clean gain to 10?
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#10
Mine does the same thing...
It is strange...
But anyway,I clenead up the lead channel by putting the clea's gain on 3...
I remember the XXX had a leak like this one...
The Ultra channel's gain reacted as a presence for the crunch channel...
I will look the other knobs tomorrow to see if any more surprises arise!!!
#12
Quote by FrustratedRocka
This doesn't happen on my 6262, but then again, I never set the clean gain at 10. Come to think of it, why the hell would you set the clean gain to 10?

If you have a guitar with weaker pups and want to push the drive harder on the clean or crunch you might want to do it. I usually have it around 5-8 for crunch though.

But the thing is, it still leaks into the Lead at lower gain settings, just not as much.
#13
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Behringer don't make Bugera products, your point is invalid.

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Yes they do!
#14
Quote by blackie13
Mine does the same thing...
It is strange...
But anyway,I clenead up the lead channel by putting the clea's gain on 3...
I remember the XXX had a leak like this one...
The Ultra channel's gain reacted as a presence for the crunch channel...
I will look the other knobs tomorrow to see if any more surprises arise!!!


Thanks a lot, mate! Then I know it's not just my amp that's acting this way.
What I've found out it's just the clean gain and the bright switch (when gain is up) that affects the other channel. Lead doesn't seem to have impact on clean (like it should be).
#15
Quote by surjer
My 6505+ Combo does the same thing.. I have since checked 3 other 6505+ Combo's and they all do it. Seams to me its by design.

Very interesting! Thanks for your help! Seems like Bugera should have made a another deviation from the Peavey design. The first one being that the bias test points measures the negative voltage and not the actual plate current.

This should end the "Bugera - Crap, Peavey - Good" discussion regarding this topic!
Funny how it always goes down that way instead of trying to answer the question...
#16
Quote by M25
Thanks a lot, mate! Then I know it's not just my amp that's acting this way.
What I've found out it's just the clean gain and the bright switch (when gain is up) that affects the other channel. Lead doesn't seem to have impact on clean (like it should be).


it's true...the bright switch seems to add a bit more sparkle in the lead channel(it wasn't supposed to do) and plenty of noise and hiss...(I dont use any noise gates and it is noticable)
I have noticed the difference with the bright switch but not with the gain knob...
#17
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OHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Yes they do!


OHHHHHHHHHHHHHH No they don't.
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#18
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OHHHHHHHHHHHHHH No they don't.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behringer

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#19
owns =/= make. Bring it old man.
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#20
If the owner doesn't make them who the hell does?
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#21
Steve jobs owned Pixar for a while... doesn't mean he made the films...
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#22
They are made in Behringer City. You're wrong and you know it. Either you're now trolling or you are trying to save face. Either way, give it up.
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#23
Alright old man, stick to your guns. They are distributed and owned by Behringer, not made by.
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#24
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Alright old man, stick to your guns. They are distributed and owned by Behringer, not made by.

They're made where the rest of behringer products are made you complete and utter nugget.
#25
This is kinda funny.

I'm gonna go play my quingdao les paul. i thought it was an epiphone but epiphone only owns and distributes them.
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Marshall JCM 2000 401C
Marshall Vintage Modern 2266
Marshall 1960A cab (Dave Hill from Slade's old cab)
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EHX Little Big Muff
Freshman Acoustic